Those projections are rarely accurate. Not even top ten projections are accurate. I think the opinions of the guys making those projections are way overrated.
I have nothing against opinions, just opinions stated as facts.
Prospect Info: 47OA: Brady Cleveland
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jaster
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77. Brady Cleveland, D, Wisconsin - Another biggie, Cleveland is a physical shutdown defenseman entering his first year with the Badgers. He's a Detroit Red Wings pick.
The big guy made it all the way to 77th on THN's college player to watch poll.
The big guy made it all the way to 77th on THN's college player to watch poll.
Hockeyville USA
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In the transfer portal, we will see where he goes, if he makes his decision completely on his own or if Yzerman/Draper steer him to a particular program (ex: North Dakota, Michigan, Michigan State, etc)
AlwaysSunnyInDetroit
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if he doesn't go directly from his college program to the nhl hall of fame i'll be shocked and disgusted. i mean, what else does he have to prove?
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ricky0034
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you think they retire his number leaguewide like with Gretzky or just for the Wings?
Hockeyville USA
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Very possible, but it depends on what Carle wants to do with his D recruits (Pitner, Felicio, McLaughlin) and/or what he wants to do with the portal and bring guys in. S Buium and Behrens could very easily turn pro after Denver is done.
DamonDRW
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I checked his stats again and it looks like he is quite consistent. 2pts in 21-22, 3pts in 22-23, and 2pts in 23-24.
47th overall... And no one is responsible for this shit.
47th overall... And no one is responsible for this shit.
Roomba With a Bauer
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This guy might be disappointed by the transfer portal. His second round pick status carries no sachet and I doubt any meaningful teams want a guy who only played *checks notes* 16 games this year.
Still an absolute head scratcher of a pick. If the Wings were really in love with this guy they almost certainly could've gotten him at 73.
Still an absolute head scratcher of a pick. If the Wings were really in love with this guy they almost certainly could've gotten him at 73.
Austrianwing
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He can't go to the hockey hall of fame. It would immediately become the "Hall of Brady Cleveland".
I have no hopes for Cleveland but for his sake he might benefit from the OHL. I think he just needs game reps at this point.
Dotter
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Has anyone actually watched this kid? I see lots of opinions but I don't anyone talking about his on ice play.
All I've seen was his highlight videos. Of course highlight videos show his best moments, but from what I can see this kid is a 6'5", 210ib wrecking ball who can skate. In the highlight videos, his shot looks good, his hockey sense appears good, his skating was way more impressive than expected... and best of all, he imposes a physical dominance that would make Radko Gudas blush.
Who has actually watched him play?
If this project can develop into what he was envisioned/hoped to be, then this could become a really special player.
All I've seen was his highlight videos. Of course highlight videos show his best moments, but from what I can see this kid is a 6'5", 210ib wrecking ball who can skate. In the highlight videos, his shot looks good, his hockey sense appears good, his skating was way more impressive than expected... and best of all, he imposes a physical dominance that would make Radko Gudas blush.
Who has actually watched him play?
If this project can develop into what he was envisioned/hoped to be, then this could become a really special player.
AlwaysSunnyInDetroit
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if there is any common sense left in this world they will retire his number from life. it will have major ramifications on mathematics and our understanding of the universe but it will have been worth it
saska sault
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People just want to crap on this kid without even giving him a chance. Makes him easy to root for.
RabidBadger
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I caught a few of his games this year. I can't say he stood out for the better or worse.
I don't think you have to watch him play to deuce things haven't gone well though. You have to wonder why he spent so many nights in the press box as a healthy scratch. Another thing that raises alarm bells is Mike Hastings is known to squeeze every ounce of potential out of his players. The fact that this year under Hastings amounted to squat turned me into a nay-sayer. Believe me, I was a torch bearer for the "give Brady a chance" mob.
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Dotter
THE ATHLETIC IS GARBAGE
I thought it was because of injury. Do you have a source for healthy scratch? I can't seem to find anything.
I've watched every shift of his, he was often the worst player on the ice. The most glaring thing is that he has no puck skills coupled with no hockey sense. The game is way too fast for him to process. Defensively, he doesn't have a good stick, he's not a good skater, terrible gaps and can't shut plays down. He was nothing like a wrecking ball, he hardly got the chance to be physical as he was always chasing the play. Not only was he the worst defensemen on wisco, he was very sheltered and only played 8 games against Big 10 team this year so its not like he was playing the best teams. He just brings no value and it was a terrible decision for him to attend college.
Dotter
THE ATHLETIC IS GARBAGE
He just turned 19 yesterday. I think the idea with this one is he could be a unique player if pans out. The likelyhood of any of these players this late in the draft hitting it big is slim to none. Sometimes you have to shoot for the stars and hope to hit the moon.
This kid looks to be a 100% project.
His reverse speed is explosive. His forward speed looks fine (not losing races). His lateral movement is impressive for a big body. He has a lot of power in his hits. He is a 100% defense defenseman. He seems calm like Edvinsson (no panic). He PKed on team USA. He blocks shots.
That said, I wonder what changed? His shift by shift play shows flashes of something there. And it looks like he gets great pleasure hitting other players. He might be too nasty at times - taking penalties.
Is he suffering from injury? Is he bipolar? There's not a lot of tape, but the tape I have seen he looks like a pick worth the salt. Players like him don't come around in the NHL anymore. He's an old school mean and nasty stay at home guy.
RabidBadger
Mazur detractors will look like dummies!
He did have an injury that kept him out about 4 games he probably wouldn't have played in anyway. I knew he was scratched from Badger media and fans on the UW hockey forums. If you google "Brady Cleveland healthy scratch" this hits you in the face
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FissionFire
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He’s also pretty young for NCAA. It’s not common for players to play their 18yr old season there unless they are very good. He probably could have benefitted from 1-2 years in the USHL before joining the NCAA at 19-20. Here’s a great post from last year where they studied the ages of all the players:
Notable is that only 36 out of 3875 players were 18 or younger. The majority of players were 21-23. Brady has an NCAA build/body but he’s 3-5 years less experienced than most of his peers and it shows.
Notable is that only 36 out of 3875 players were 18 or younger. The majority of players were 21-23. Brady has an NCAA build/body but he’s 3-5 years less experienced than most of his peers and it shows.
Dotter
THE ATHLETIC IS GARBAGE
Interesting. He needs to go someplace else where he can get ice time. I posted the shift by shift from a USA game and he had maybe one small gaff. He was a beast, a wrecking ball and scored a sexy assist (all him from his amazing skating). If he can learn to play that way consistently, we might have something special.
