Prospect Info: #46 Overall, RD Seamus Casey US-NTDP

[SteveCangialosi123]

 

[Hisch13r]

 

[vtdevils2k]

Idk if they can leave him there next year.....gotta find a way youd think?

He's outstanding.

 

[Hisch13r]

Idk if they can leave him there next year.....gotta find a way youd think?

He's outstanding.

He'll be in Utica for sure.

 

[vtdevils2k]

He'll be in Utica for sure.

Ill take it over UFA...so talented.

 

[Clam Jensen]

Ill take it over UFA...so talented.

Oh there’s no shot they allow it to go to UFA

 

[My3Sons]

I'd like to see him try playing wing when he gets to Utica. Right side is crowded in NJ with Hamilton, Marino and Nemec. He's really talented and has wonderful offensive skill. Might be a quick way to get him to the NHL. Just a thought.

 

[JimEIV]

I'd like to see him try playing wing when he gets to Utica. Right side is crowded in NJ with Hamilton, Marino and Nemec. He's really talented and has wonderful offensive skill. Might be a quick way to get him to the NHL. Just a thought.

For a Defenseman, the biggest insult you can throw on him is "maybe would try him on the wing" in my opinion

 

[My3Sons]

For a Defenseman, the biggest insult you can throw on him is "maybe would try him on the wing" in my opinion

OK, to me it's not an insult. He isn't going to displace one of the three guys ahead of him anytime soon. Does he want to play in Utica or NJ?

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

OK, to me it's not an insult. He isn't going to displace one of the three guys ahead of him anytime soon. Does he want to play in Utica or NJ?

Let things play out, maybe he or someone else will play their offside. I haven't been impressed with Bahl at all in his current role. Injuries happen and players get traded.

 

[My3Sons]

Let things play out, maybe he or someone else will play their offside. I haven't been impressed with Bahl at all in his current role. Injuries happen and players get traded.

That’s all fair. I’d just like him to have a chance to make the roster. NJ sent Nemec down when he was much better than Miller for example.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

 

[Barry Tallackson]

Dumping Hamilton makes the most sense, we'll probably be needing the cap space to sign Luke and the roster spot to give to Casey.

Already thinking about dumping our most productive defenseman for someone unproven is a losers mindset

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Already thinking about dumping our most productive defenseman for someone unproven is a losers mindset

Hamilton is productive sure, but he's awful defensively and terribly soft. Come playoff time he's a huge liability.

 

[My3Sons]

Hamilton is productive sure, but he's awful defensively and terribly soft. Come playoff time he's a huge liability.

He’s also signed for five more years with a lot of NMC and trade protection. He’s going to block Casey for a while.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Hamilton is productive sure, but he's awful defensively and terribly soft. Come playoff time he's a huge liability.

It’s unlikely that Nemec, Luke, or Casey ever have the actual measurable defensive impact that Hamilton has had in his career, despite the fact that he doesn’t appear to be that good in that area by the eye test.

 

[devilsblood]

It’s unlikely that Nemec, Luke, or Casey ever have the actual measurable defensive impact that Hamilton has had in his career, despite the fact that he doesn’t appear to be that good in that area by the eye test.

Hamilton isn't even a glaringly bad defender by the eye test. He's slow, and he's not physical, but he looks fine defensively to me. Good stick, covers a ton of area via wingspan, moves the puck out of harms way well.

The "awful" stuff has no basis.

 

[Guadana]

Hamilton protects a lot of ice. He isn't reactive, but his iq and positional vision are very good. Im surprised im defending Hamilton as defenseman but he deserving credits. Of course I like Marino more and would prefer Devils could develop faster defensemen who can make fast decisions on the shirt distance, but its not an easy to ask what is Dougie doing.

Dougie doing.

And its interesting case how Devils will act with Casey, because he is obvious talent, but Marino signed on a cheap deal and he is very important for this team as shutdown defenseman and as pk defenseman. Nemec is untouchable, Hamilton is untouchable and very impactful for the next years.

 

[My3Sons]

Hamilton protects a lot of ice. He isn't reactive, but his iq and positional vision are very good. Im surprised im defending Hamilton as defenseman but he deserving credits. Of course I like Marino more and would prefer Devils could develop faster defensemen who can make fast decisions on the shirt distance, but its not an easy to ask what is Dougie doing.

Dougie doing.

And its interesting case how Devils will act with Casey, because he is obvious talent, but Marino signed on a cheap deal and he is very important for this team as shutdown defenseman and as pk defenseman. Nemec is untouchable, Hamilton is untouchable and very impactful for the next years.

Hamilton is also sturdy. He gets hit but guys usually bounce off him.

 

[Oneiro]

2 on 1s and physical battles would be the points of criticism for Dougie bu he avoids those game states more often than the average D.

I actually would love to see Casey up front. Especially if Holtz, Gritsyuk and Filmon all have issues.

 

[Barry Tallackson]

Who are defensemen who have played forward for us? Corrente, Warsofsky?

 

[devilsblood]

Who are defensemen who have played forward for us? Corrente, Warsofsky?

Harrold.

I'm not big into the idea, but a few guys have done it.

 

[Triumph]

Players have done it but almost none of them have stuck there. It's generally a terrible idea IMO.

 

[devilsblood]

Players have done it but almost none of them have stuck there. It's generally a terrible idea IMO.

Ya, it seems that when a guy can maybe play either position, or when a player transitions from one to the other, the success stories all seem to be guys who end up playing D.

 

[Oneiro]

Players have done it but almost none of them have stuck there. It's generally a terrible idea IMO.

This is true.

The logjam is a good problem to have, there is still a lot of time before he’s even a consideration, plus we’re seeing NHL rosters go 8D deep all year. The years he overlaps with Hamilton and/or Marino, he could work his way in the way Bahl has. But to me, he’s the sort of talent you make room for, despite his size.

Maybe it’s much ado about nothing and another factor makes the decision clear over the years but I’d hate to part with this player unless it slam dunk addresses goaltending. Anyway, this is years away.