4 Nations Tournament

[Unhinged Finn]

You don't have faith in team Finlan(d) to deny Canada from the final???

SMH. S M F H.

I expect nothing but victory.

 

[cptjeff]

You don't have faith in team Finlan(d) to deny Canada from the final???

SMH. S M F H.

I expect nothing but victory.

Then the US could throw the game against Sweden and Canada would finish last.

 

[Borsig]

Then the US could throw the game against Sweden and Canada would finish last.

THIS is the malicious compliance I love

 

[LakeLivin]

I'm guessing they might skate reasonably hard but more or less avoid the big hits designed to hurt someone. It will be interesting to see how it actually plays out.

Good call Nostradumbass; 3 fights in the first 10 seconds. Any other predictions you'd like to make?

 

[tarheelhockey]

I have to say, this tournament has been a lot better than expected. The only game that wasn’t a thriller was the USA/Finland match, and that one was good through two periods. Last night’s game had Stanley Cup final energy. The players have stepped up and taken it seriously which makes for great hockey.

 

[Lempo]

Good call Nostradumbass; 3 fights in the first 10 seconds. Any other predictions you'd like to make?

It was solid thinking, just with two Tkachuk-sized holes.

 

[Lempo]

The players have stepped up and taken it seriously which makes for great hockey.

I think when you get picked for a Team Canada with Crosby and McDavid finally in it, you probably don't want to live with the consequences of going there and just cruising around.

 

[Joe McGrath]

our goal song should have been america f*** yeah.

Slavin doing slavin things this whole game

While I agree wholeheartedly with the above, FreeBird is pretty epic and gets the same message across

 

[chaz4hockey]

 

[AD Skinner]

I wonder what game it was in 2019. Could it have been canes and caps game 7? That would be pretty neat

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I wonder what game it was in 2019. Could it have been canes and caps game 7? That would be pretty neat

It was the Bruins-Blue Jackets Game 5, though the numbers are misleading. It aired immediately after a very controversial Kentucky Derby, and somehow wires got crossed at NBC. After the Derby, only the Boston and Columbus area was supposed to be sent directly to the hockey game, while the rest of the viewing audience stayed with post race coverage. Instead, only Boston and Columbus got post race coverage while everyone else was sent to the game.

 

[Negan4Coach]

As fun as the international psychodrama spilling over into hockey is, can somebody explain why there is this big, lengthy international hockey tournament literally the year before this process is repeated in the Olympics? Is there some connection to it, like the seeding of teams? Or did everyone just decide there needed to be additional opportunities to injure star players shortly before the playoffs begin?

 

[WreckingCrew]

As fun as the international psychodrama spilling over into hockey is, can somebody explain why there is this big, lengthy international hockey tournament literally the year before this process is repeated in the Olympics? Is there some connection to it, like the seeding of teams? Or did everyone just decide there needed to be additional opportunities to injure star players shortly before the playoffs begin?

Vegas...how else will they get cap space before TDL without having the "injury" spill over into playoffs?

 

[Blueline Bomber]

As fun as the international psychodrama spilling over into hockey is, can somebody explain why there is this big, lengthy international hockey tournament literally the year before this process is repeated in the Olympics? Is there some connection to it, like the seeding of teams? Or did everyone just decide there needed to be additional opportunities to injure star players shortly before the playoffs begin?

Two reasons:

1. Everyone is sick of the ASG. The fans have kind of soured on it, the players frequently skip it, the NHL needed something new to bring excitement back to the league.

2. The Olympics are run by the IIHF, not the NHL. The NHL gets nothing from allowing players to play in the Olympics. They actually lose money for those weeks. So this is the NHL's way of having an international tournament, as well as sending a message to the IIHF that they may not be needed in the future.

Also, extra bonus reason: This tournament is played under NHL rules, and thus, allows things that the IIHF wouldn't. If an Olympic game started with 3 fights in under a minute, every one of those players would have been kicked out of that game, and probably would have been suspended for the following one.

 

[Tryamw]

Good call Nostradumbass; 3 fights in the first 10 seconds. Any other predictions you'd like to make?

Have you met @HisIceness ?

 

[Lempo]

As fun as the international psychodrama spilling over into hockey is, can somebody explain why there is this big, lengthy international hockey tournament literally the year before this process is repeated in the Olympics? Is there some connection to it, like the seeding of teams? Or did everyone just decide there needed to be additional opportunities to injure star players shortly before the playoffs begin?

I daresay the NHL had benefited tremendously as the advertising of their product goes. And, I would hazard to guess that didn't come entirely as a surprise to their marketing people.

 

[DaveG]

It was the Bruins-Blue Jackets Game 5, though the numbers are misleading. It aired immediately after a very controversial Kentucky Derby, and somehow wires got crossed at NBC. After the Derby, only the Boston and Columbus area was supposed to be sent directly to the hockey game, while the rest of the viewing audience stayed with post race coverage. Instead, only Boston and Columbus got post race coverage while everyone else was sent to the game.

Probably the only reason I'm glad that the NHL isn't with NBC instead of ESPN anymore. I still remember them preemptively cutting away from OT in the f***ing Eastern Conference Final in an elimination game for not just the race but hours of pre-race fluff for the Preakness.

 

[The Faulker 27]

I have people at work who don't watch hockey, and know nothing about it asking me about the fights. I think the NHL owes the Tkachuk brothers a beer.

 

[Negan4Coach]

Two reasons:

1. Everyone is sick of the ASG. The fans have kind of soured on it, the players frequently skip it, the NHL needed something new to bring excitement back to the league.

2. The Olympics are run by the IIHF, not the NHL. The NHL gets nothing from allowing players to play in the Olympics. They actually lose money for those weeks. So this is the NHL's way of having an international tournament, as well as sending a message to the IIHF that they may not be needed in the future.

Also, extra bonus reason: This tournament is played under NHL rules, and thus, allows things that the IIHF wouldn't. If an Olympic game started with 3 fights in under a minute, every one of those players would have been kicked out of that game, and probably would have been suspended for the following one.

Well, laid out like that it sure seems to make a lot more sense. So this is a replacement for the ASG- does that mean it is going to be a yearly thing?

 

[Chrispy]

Well, laid out like that it sure seems to make a lot more sense. So this is a replacement for the ASG- does that mean it is going to be a yearly thing?

I think the plan will be a 4 year rotation:

Winter olympics
Asg
World Cup (nhl sponsored tournament)
Asg

Maybe they go 4 nations in between instead, but i think this is their current plan. Every other year for best on best international seems frequent enough. Same with all star games.

 

[HisIceness]

Probably the only reason I'm glad that the NHL isn't with NBC instead of ESPN anymore. I still remember them preemptively cutting away from OT in the f***ing Eastern Conference Final in an elimination game for not just the race but hours of pre-race fluff for the Preakness.

Sabres vs Senators right? And it got moved to Versus although I think the Buffalo market wasn't affected.

It was going to be the same thing the year before with our series vs Sabres, but whatever game that was didn't have OT.

I wonder what game it was in 2019. Could it have been canes and caps game 7? That would be pretty neat

That game 7 was on the cable network but IIRC it was the highest rated first round game in like 10 years.

 

[DaveG]

Sabres vs Senators right? And it got moved to Versus although I think the Buffalo market wasn't affected.

It was going to be the same thing the year before with our series vs Sabres, but whatever game that was didn't have OT.



That game 7 was on the cable network but IIRC it was the highest rated first round game in like 10 years.

yep, that's the one. It's come up a couple times since then as well but the games never went to OT IIRC

 

[hblueridgegal]

Don't treat Jarvy this way...he so wanted to play against Aho

 

[CandyCanes]

Don't treat Jarvy this way...he so wanted to play against Aho

Booo

 

[Blueline Bomber]

To be fair, Jarvis hasn't had the kind of impact I would have expected of him. But he's not the only one. Marchand has also been invisible. Reinhart is getting more minutes than both of them and is struggling just as much