GDT: #34 New York Islanders @ New York Rangers | December 22nd | 7 PM | F/5-3 L

[Top Corner]

Well, it's true that I didn't play hockey in Canada, if that's what you're driving at.

HOWEVER, the fact that you prefer a player that hasn't done a damn thing in the NHL this season (and isn't currently in the League) over a a player who, while definitely flawed, has at least proved to be somewhat useful this season tells me all I need to know about YOUR hockey knowledge.

And Wahlstrom is a budding superstar! Just so you know , both players are under .40 ppg.and just to help you out here, I hated both and see them as overhyped islander prospects. Both
Players will finish their careers sharing one thing in common , unspectacular first rounders

 

[Satan'sIsland81]

For those who say the refs are not an issue. When is the last time you have see a game where we had 7 PPs and the opponent had 2? It never happens. How many times have we had 5 on 3s this year, I am pretty sure we have had 2 or 3 at most. And I am pretty sure the opposition has had like triple that. Why is this? Why is it when there is a game we have no complaints about officiating it is usually called evenly. When do we ever see a game where we get 3x times the amount of PPs as the opposition? It never happens. We actually have the 4th least amount of PPs in the league this season.

 

[The Real JT]

I love the leadership that Lee has brought to this team over the last few years but his lack of speed becomes more glaring each year. He’s starting to remind me of a Matt Martin clone with good hands. If only he were on a team with other talented forwards, he’d blend in and complement those players well.

The Isles miss Palmieri way more than I would’ve imagined. He’s not the full answer by any means but he’s also one of the few guys on this squad with any goal scoring skills.

 

[DerekKingSnipes]

Too many undisciplined penalties.

I get that our talent is what it is, but for f***s sake can’t they control their sticks?

Yeah penalties cost them tonight, penalty killing was better tonight but right now there is alot of bad stuff that is costing them. It will be interesting how soon after roster freeze Lou makes a move. I don’t see them staying status quo unless they are going to sell at deadline.

 

[Strummergas]

He has to make a move. The potential problems that lay ahead with Clutter and potentially Zeke out. Pelech who knows. We are not strong enough to support either.

On the other hand, if they're going to be out long-term, should they be giving up assets in what may be a failed attempt to right the ship?

 

[scottywiper]

For those who say the refs are not an issue. When is the last time you have see a game where we had 7 PPs and the opponent had 2? It never happens. How many times have we had 5 on 3s this year, I am pretty sure we have had 2 or 3 at most. And I am pretty sure the opposition has had like triple that. Why is this? Why is it when there is a game we have no complaints about officiating it is usually called evenly. When do we ever see a game where we get 3x times the amount of PPs as the opposition? It never happens. We actually have the 4th least amount of PPs in the league this season.

We did some dumb shit.
But it did appear Wahlstrom copped a high stick in second. refs ignored it and Rangers levelled 15 seconds later.

 

[Strummergas]

And Wahlstrom is a budding superstar! Just so you know , both players are under .40 ppg.and just to help you out here, I hated both and see them as overhyped islander prospects. Both
Players will finish their careers sharing one thing in common , unspectacular first rounders

Hey dopey, show me the post where I said Wahlstrom is going to be a superstar. Don't bother, you won't find it. Never ever uttered or typed those words.

But keep on grinding that ax, baby. It's very becoming for a man your age.

Barzal is way down list of problems to be honest.

Overall, I agree. But he was pretty high on the list for tonight's loss.

 

[DerekKingSnipes]

I love the leadership that Lee has brought to this team over the last few years but his lack of speed becomes more glaring each year. He’s starting to remind me of a Matt Martin clone with good hands. If only he were on a team with other talented forwards, he’d blend in and complement those players well.

The Isles miss Palmieri way more than I would’ve imagined. He’s not the full answer by any means but he’s also one of the few guys on this squad with any goal scoring skills.

Extremely thin organizationally, Aho has played 100 times better than you could have expected but Salo had rough evening. As much as people see the guys out as not huge missing players on a team that needs to play everyone to be successful your asking guys who aren’t there right now to pick up for Nhlers and it cost them tonight.

 

[Lights911]

Sweet Lou’s team absolutely sucks and so does #2 on NYJ

 

[LAIslanderFan]

Wow, with Salo, Aho, Bailey, and even Barzal absolutely shitting the bed tonight, you took this opportunity to come here to post about Anders Lee!

Man, some of you wackos take your dislike of a player WAAAAAYYYYY to personally.

I think the criticism of Barzal is not fair. Did you ever ask yourself why a player of Barzal's talent has so many giveaways and yet players like Panarin or Bergeron don't have the same issues? The answer is simple, those players have line mates that are smart and imaginative and know how to get open.
Barzal plays with 3rd liners that put him in a position of over handling the puck because of the limited IQ of the players on his line.

By the way, Lee stinks!!! He's literally the worst skater on the team. I'm well aware you have very little knowledge of the importance of playing in all of the zones of the ice. I lost count of how may times Lee gave up the puck tonight or had the puck stolen from him.

I would like your honest opinion, if the Islanders put him on the trade block, what do you think another team would give up for him. I would say at best a 3rd round pick and the Islanders would have to pick up most of his salary. What say you?

Anders Lee $7 million year, 112th in the league in scoring tied with Jordan Eberle.

 

[PK Cronin]

Hey dopey, show me the post where I said Wahlstrom is going to be a superstar. Don't bother, you won't find it. Never ever uttered or typed those words.

But keep on grinding that ax, baby. It's very becoming for a man your age.



Overall, I agree. But he was pretty high on the list for tonight's loss.

Can't anybody read anymore?!

 

[DerekKingSnipes]

Hey dopey, show me the post where I said Wahlstrom is going to be a superstar. Don't bother, you won't find them. Never ever uttered or typed those words.

But keep on grinding that ax, baby. It's very becoming for a man your age.



Overall, I agree. But he was pretty high on the list for tonight's loss.

It’s really important they pair Barzal up with someone at his level to be honest. I’m really ok with Wahlstrom there as I do think maybe there is still upside there but Bailey isn’t a fit. I’m not a Bailey hater but his game just doesn’t pair with Barzal. I’d flip Bailey and Beau as Beau‘s last shot, Bailey is better with Nelson or even flip Bailey and Holmstrom.

 

[danteipp]

For those who say the refs are not an issue. When is the last time you have see a game where we had 7 PPs and the opponent had 2? It never happens. How many times have we had 5 on 3s this year, I am pretty sure we have had 2 or 3 at most. And I am pretty sure the opposition has had like triple that. Why is this? Why is it when there is a game we have no complaints about officiating it is usually called evenly. When do we ever see a game where we get 3x times the amount of PPs as the opposition? It never happens. We actually have the 4th least amount of PPs in the league this season.

Simple answer: Bill Daly is a Rags fan.

They have two ways to win, the first is She's Twerkin stands on his head when they are outmatched on the ice, the second is just hand them double the PPs, and ideally the first 2 or 2 out of 3.

 

[LAIslanderFan]

I won't argue against that. However, Anders Lee was not one of the reasons they lost this game tonight. The timing of that post was bizarre, to say the least.

Very reminiscent of "LOUD NOISES" from Anchorman.

He's the captain, he's making $7 million and he's not even close to being worth that contract. He's going to be a financial anchor for years to come.

 

[xECK29x]

Thomas Hickey “ the net front”

Spot on. Aho and Salo can’t be in the line up together. They’re not ready for the responsibility.

Hickey as an analyst is the best this to happen this season, which is sad.

 

[DerekKingSnipes]

He's the captain, he's making $7 million and he's not even close to being worth that contract. He's going to be a financial anchor for years to come.

You can always get rid of contracts when you need too.

 

[LAIslanderFan]

Unless Pelech will be back soon, then yes. Aho and Salo dressing at the same time is a handicap.

They need to bring up one of their dynamic young defensive prospects from Bridgeport. You know, um...

 

[Strummergas]

I think the criticism of Barzal is not fair. Did you ever ask yourself why a player of Barzal's talent has so many giveaways and yet players like Panarin or Bergeron don't have the same issues? The answer is simple, those players have line mates that are smart and imaginative and know how to get open.
Barzal plays with 3rd liners that put him in a position of over handling the puck because of the limited IQ of the players on his line.

By the way, Lee stinks!!! He's literally the worst skater on the team. I'm well aware you have very little knowledge of the importance of playing in all of the zones of the ice. I lost count of how may times Lee gave up the puck tonight or had the puck stolen from him.

I would like your honest opinion, if the Islanders put him on the trade block, what do you think another team would give up for him. I would say at best a 3rd round pick and the Islanders would have to pick up most of his salary. What say you?

Anders Lee $7 million year, 112th in the league in scoring tied with Jordan Eberle.

Barzal could indeed stand to have better linemates. However, a lot of the criticism thrown his way is over self-inflicted wounds; his reluctance to shoot, his reluctance to drive the net, his over-handling the puck in some instances, and his wishful thinking passing at times. And to me, those are all fair game. Perhaps he wouldn't feel obligated to do everything himself if he had better linemates (if that is indeed why he makes some of the decisions he does), but those are still choices he's made.

Lee was never a great skater. But it's rarely a detriment to his team. He's been successful in this League despite that. I'm not sure what your getting at with the "playing in all three zones" statement. I don't believe Anders Lee has ever been a defensive liability. Has he slowed a bit more than he already was? It appears that he might have. Will he be an anchor by the end of this contract? Maybe. But he's pretty far down on the list on problems this team has, both overall and certainly tonight. So I stand by my statement that your post was bizarre tonight, considering that there were WAY more obvious culprits who could've been the subject of a rant. It stunk of personal vendetta.

I don't really get into the trade value of players, probably because they're relative to so many factors at the time a trade is actually made. So maybe you're right about that he would only go for a 3rd rounder, but don't be terribly surprised when a team gives up more than that under a particular set of circumstances.

 

[xECK29x]

You can always get rid of contracts when you need too.

Lee is one of the least of my concerns, with the cap going to explode 7m won't be too bad in 2-3 years.

 

[Strummergas]

He's the captain, he's making $7 million and he's not even close to being worth that contract. He's going to be a financial anchor for years to come.

And yet, that's all irrelevant to tonight's performance, as I stated in the original post you quoted, and my reply to you.

 

[LAIslanderFan]

Lee is one of the least of my concerns, with the cap going to explode 7m won't be too bad in 2-3 years.

When he's on the 3rd line or being scratched and other free agents using his salary in negotiations you will.

I won't argue against that. However, Anders Lee was not one of the reasons they lost this game tonight. The timing of that post was bizarre, to say the least.

Very reminiscent of "LOUD NOISES" from Anchorman.

He wasn't the only problem, true, but he was the most glaring.

 

[DerekKingSnipes]

Lee is one of the least of my concerns, with the cap going to explode 7m won't be too bad in 2-3 years.

And his deal expires at that point.

 

[Strummergas]

It’s really important they pair Barzal up with someone at his level to be honest. I’m really ok with Wahlstrom there as I do think maybe there is still upside there but Bailey isn’t a fit. I’m not a Bailey hater but his game just doesn’t pair with Barzal. I’d flip Bailey and Beau as Beau‘s last shot, Bailey is better with Nelson or even flip Bailey and Holmstrom.

Bailey's game doesn't pair up with the NHL at the moment, so no arguing there. They tried Holmstrom with him and either didn't see a fit, or decided to bring Holmstrom along more slowly. Honestly, I think dropping him down to play with JPG has been good for him. I like how he's coming along.

At the moment, Beau may very well be the best option.

 

[Top Corner]

Hey dopey, show me the post where I said Wahlstrom is going to be a superstar. Don't bother, you won't find it. Never ever uttered or typed those words.

But keep on grinding that ax, baby. It's very becoming for a man your age.



Overall, I agree. But he was pretty high on the list for tonight's loss.

Your right, I’m not sure what the hell you are saying!
Why not use whatever hockey wisdom you have and post something constructive instead of using the word Dopey to deflect your hockey ignorance

 

[LAIslanderFan]

Dumb penalties and lack of shots.

We had 3 goals on 13 shots and we let Shesty off the hook. Gotta keep peppering

Dumb penalties are a result of a team being outplayed and forced into mistakes.