Post-Game Talk: #3 - 10/07/18 | RANGERS @ hurricanes | 5:00 - MSG

[mrmovies779]

Bet Quinn is going to skate the hell out of them all next practice.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

**** Ryan Callahan. Cally has a modified NTC and probably would reject a trade coming to a rebuilding team like NY.

Tampa might not a 2nd round pick either.

Are you really acknowledging that ridiculous proposal he made?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Yup...oh no, we might end up with Kakko, Newhook or Turcotte!

Or Cozens or Dach or Suzuki!

 

[bl02]

You know we are not getting Hughes...Someone please tell me that pick 2,3,4,5 has a winger or center that could also be elite. Not 100 percent sure but I don't believe any d men are on the Dahlin/Heiskanen level

 

[Jayan]

+++

ADA (has to be playing from now on)

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Howden (Didnt look like it was his 3rd NHL game)
Fast (Solid performance)

+

Kreider (looked better than last 2 games)
Names (good grit when he finally got to play)

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Rest

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

I believe that Jeff Gorton should approach Marc Staal and his agent privately and ask Marc to waive his his NMC/NTC. If agreed and there are no interest from other clubs then send him to Hartford ala Wade Redden.
As a player/coach he could have a very positive influence on our developing defensemen.
The sweetener would be that when his contract runs its course he will always have a job with the organization.
If they do not waive then sit him every night.
Either way it will open a spot for one of our developing prospects.

Are there good lawyers in Thunder Bay when Staal says “see you in court”.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

You know we are not getting Hughes...Someone please tell me that pick 2,3,4,5 has a winger or center that could also be elite. Not 100 percent sure but I don't believe any d men are on the Dahlin/Heiskanen level

We don't know anything...

But yes, picks 2,3,4,5 are all supposed to be very, very good.

 

[Ghost of jas]

You know we are not getting Hughes...Someone please tell me that pick 2,3,4,5 has a winger or center that could also be elite. Not 100 percent sure but I don't believe any d men are on the Dahlin/Heiskanen level

Read the posts above yours.

 

[bl02]

I'm not so sure (and I'm someone who has been saying for a while that Staal won't be bought out).
If Hajek can continue his strong start with the Pack, and show that he's ready for NHL hockey next season, his ELC and Staal's buyout almost perfectly coincide meaning that you you reduce your defensive core cap-hit while improving its play. And then when Hajek needs a raise there's only one year left on the Staal buyout at pretty minimal money.

I'd be very surprised if all 3 of Smith, Shatty and Staal are on the roster for opening night next season

Any way all three of them can be gone? or at least 2 of the 3?

 

[will1066]

Game changes every decade. Look at the 70s compared to the 80s compared to the 90s etc. The immobile power forwards like Bates Battaglia and Mike Leclerc became extinct when they went from the Dead Puck Era to the post lockout. Some of the linebackers that played in the league when it rebooted in 2005, they wouldn't be able to keep up today. Half the teams from 2005 to 2012 would be three feet behind the play.

Zuc isn't slow but he's not naturally fast. He's very similar to a player like Callahan in that there's a hustle and a motor to his game. When that motor gets old, it makes most of the other elements of his game not as effective.

You lose a fraction of a second and timing and everything becomes off. Everything needs to be done so fast now. As soon as you have the puck you need to make a decision. The pace tonight was incredibly fast

 

[BroadwayStorm]

EVEN if we don't get Hughes we will absolutely get an ELITE offensive player in next years draft within the first 4 picks. Maybe even 5. But I have a hunch if we get there we get Hughes.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Game is progressively getting faster by the year.

Training, equipment, nutrition.

 

[Ghost of jas]

We don't know anything...

But yes, picks 2,3,4,5 are all supposed to be very, very good.

As are 6, 7 and 8 if you add Byram.

 

[bl02]

We don't know anything...

But yes, picks 2,3,4,5 are all supposed to be very, very good.

Yes we do. happy to hear 2-5 will be good. thats probably where we will pick

 

[Matt Rentfree]

There's a better chance of me playing Defense for the Rangers this season than this ever happening.

You couldn't possibly be worse than Staal - I say we give it a try.

 

[RangerLifer]

Totally agree, and glad to see some optimism in this forum. I am liking what I see from this team, the potential is there, and it's enormous.

Like I always say, it isn't how you start the season that matters, it's how you finish. The regular season is a marathon, not a sprint.

 

[will1066]

Training, equipment, nutrition.

Yeah. Guys today have all kinds of technology at their disposal

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Yeah no thanks, I'm not dellusional. This team as presently constituted is going nowhere and any success they have hurts the long term chances of this team having a serious shot at winning championships. If you don't see that you are going to suffer a lot these next few seasons. I notice a lot of Ranger fans not just here but in general are in complete and total denial about our present roster and circumstances. Not only that, are in complete and total denial that every single team in our division has 2 or 3 elite players and we have ZERO.

As Louis CK said, It’s the Dodge Dart in the backyard

“Oh shit. I can’t drive this...There’s f***ing bees in there!”

 

[Webster]

We have elite players. Buchnevich and Chytil. Our coach just sucks.

You may have a point, he doesn't look ready for this league. To me it looked like he lost control tonight. No structure, no consistent lines. He sends weird signals and players get confused by his system.

 

[FultonReed]

thanks to the two gents for the provided update. glad I could miss this one.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Like I always say, it isn't how you start the season that matters, it's how you finish. The regular season is a marathon, not a sprint.

Hopefully we finish it like we started

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

One thing that will go unnoticed when Joe and Dave were talking about how Carolina had a reputation for being soft and is now very physical. It took them five years to figure out that if you play in a division with all of the old Patrick/Atlantic (as in the 93-94--2012-13 Atlantic) teams, you need to be gritty.

That was their biggest disadvantage from realignment. For years they played in the weakest division in hockey, and being all finesse wouldn't work anywhere else.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

EVEN if we don't get Hughes we will absolutely get an ELITE offensive player in next years draft within the first 4 picks. Maybe even 5. But I have a hunch if we get there we get Hughes.

A rebuild takes time. It’s perfectly fine to get your franchise D this year, and then go 1-3 next year for your center etc.

 

[RangerLifer]

Chytil didn't finish the game? I hope it wasn't anything to do with the head shot he took last game.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Chytil didn't finish the game? I hope it wasn't anything to do with the head shot he took last game.

I think it had more to do with just getting lost in the shuffle.

Other guys played better though Zucarello and Zibanejad kept on getting ice despite playing like rotten ass.