Post-Game Talk: #3 - 10/07/18 | RANGERS @ hurricanes | 5:00 - MSG

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Marc Staal’s contract would still go against the cap.
I would think his contract does not have a minimum thresholds of games he must play a year
If the NHLPA is an association and not a union I doubt they would have any regress under the Taft Hartley Act or any othe Federal or New York State Labor laws.
I don’t see any reason that would compel a team from playing the players they want to play and having those they don’t want watching from the press box.
Further to that, since when does having a contract guarantee you play? The rangers could park Marc in the press box the rest of the year if they wanted. He has a no move so he can’t go to Hartford. If he wants to leave his agent can help arrange a trade. Or not. Contract is guaranteed
 
1) continue to lose/tank
2) but Hayes, Zucc, and co still do really well and we just play really hard every night, get good at scoring goals
3) develop the young kids where ever is best for them
4) TDL get multiple 1st RDP for Hayes, Zucc, et al
5) Hughes/Turcotte
6) profit? hope those defensive prospects + Shesty pan out for us. Revived back end with developed scoring.
 
Ada was the best defenseman, by far, thru training camp. He was basically the only defenseman playing actual defense and offense tonight except for 1 bad play. I fully expect him to be benched again. I don't get why this organization is so....dumb.
 
Quinn's constant yelling definitely wear on the players. He got a lot of nerve for a rookie coach, seems like the veterans have had just about enough of him already, like Hayes and perhaps even Zucc. He should be a little careful, if the players turn against him he's done.
It doesn't even remotely seem like this. In fact hayes had a much better game today in response to yesterday so it's the opposite of what you're saying
 
I see your point.
My thoughts on Staal would definitely be conscrewed as coercion.
Maybe there could be a gray area were they could nudge him into doing the right thing for himself and the team and Staal not sufer any monetary loss?

Not worth crossing into that water in a low total cap hit rebuild year.
 
Really don’t love the make up of this locker room...we need a real captain

Exactly...this team seriously lacks structure, starting with the leadership. 5 A's...what nonsense is this? And most of them aren't even qualified as leaders imo, but they can become good leaders if they're being backed up by a solid captain.

Then the line problems, tonight the coach was mixing them like he was making a salad. That simply won't work, he's supposed to use practice to figure out what might be the most effective lines.
 
Ada was the best defenseman, by far, thru training camp. He was basically the only defenseman playing actual defense and offense tonight except for 1 bad play. I fully expect him to be benched again. I don't get why this organization is so....dumb.
Sometimes it feels like the organization is kind of like part of the fan base where they know they need a defenseman who can put up points and drive offense, but they hate everyone they get because they’re not Brian Leetch
 
They broke down late and georgi was really, really bad. I like georgi but he was pure stench

Chytil makes soooooo many beautiful plays. I'm seeing tons of effort, skating, etc. The kids seem hungry. Inexperience individually and inexperience as a unit is causing problems. That's normal.

Oh...I mean fire Quinn, trade every1 and win somehow bc if you cant get 1 OA you should get 9
 
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It`s a huge step to coach in NHL, but Quinn is trying to win games. And this evening it`s unfortunate that our backup goalie had a really bad night so we will see Henrik back in net already next game.

- Zucc is a slow starter in NHL, but kind of worried due to a new system. (Players don`t instant adapt after 5 years with AV.)
- Zib has similar issues like Zucc. (He don`t look too comfortable at the moment in this new system, and need better accuracy on his shots and maybe line changes in attempt to get him going.)
- Kevin Shattenkirk lack match fitness - it`s obvious to me and he is uncertain after his long term injury. And he also struggle with shot accuracy just like Zib.

Positives Howden looking good, Chytil get points, and Kreider looked more motivated this evening and was visible with 2 goals. Buch got that PP goal which is crucical for his own confident and that was after good play by Zucc on that PP even though he was not rewarded with an assist. Vesey scored 2 goals with good positioning - hopefully he get some confidence back to not get cold for long stretches, but he usually a streaky player.
 
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It`s a huge step to coach in NHL, but Quinn is trying to win games. And this evening it`s unfortunate that our backup goalie had a really bad night so we will see Henrik back in net already next game.

- Zucc is a slow starter in NHL, but kind of worried due to a new system. (Players don`t instant adapt after 5 years with AV.)
- Zib has similar issues like Zucc. (He don`t look too comfortable at the moment in this new system, and need better accuracy on his shots and maybe line changes in attempt to get him going.)
- Kevin Shattenkirk lack match fitness - it`s obvious to me and he is uncertain after his long term injury. And he also struggle with shot accuracy just like Zib.

Positives Howden looking good, Chytil get points, and Kreider looked more motivated this evening and was visible with 2 goals. Buch got that PP goal which is crucical for his own confident and that was after good play by Zucc on that PP even though he was not rewarded with an assist. Vesey scored 2 goals with good positioning - hopefully he get some confidence back to not get cold for long stretches, but he usually a streaky player.

BTW, most coaches do a goalie change when a backup 22 yearold goalie is getting lit up like a Christmas tree. Quinn should have recognized it after one of the bad goals Georgiev gave up. Is Allair working with our goalies part time or something?
 
Hey guys, what’s up with Shattenkirk? Why did he only play 7:29? Injury?

He's exactly as advertised and put in a position where he's playing way over his head.
He's a complete waste of a roster spot....
 
Nobody wants to to admit this...but I'll say it....we weren't that much better defensively the prior games either...Henrik been spectacular....georgiev was terrible...hence why the scores in the first 2 were closer than they were...we've given up a metric ton of quality chances...

And I think we might have been better defensively last season, even when tanking at the end.
 
Wow Shattenkirk sure has fallen hard in the last couple years. First he had the serious injury, and now that he’s healthy he just flat out sucks. Can’t even be a reliable steady veteran on a young team.

I was silly to have picked him in two pools thinking he’d have a bounce back season. Moving on lol.
 
He's exactly as advertised and put in a position where he's playing way over his head.
He's a complete waste of a roster spot....

That’s crazy. Two years ago he was one of the best young d-men in the league who could QB a powerplay like a beast and play 20+ minutes a game. Funny how quick things can change.
 
Wow Shattenkirk sure has fallen hard in the last couple years. First he had the serious injury, and now that he’s healthy he just flat out sucks. Can’t even be a reliable steady veteran on a young team.

I was silly to have picked him in two pools thinking he’d have a bounce back season. Moving on lol.
He’s not that bad. The whole team/defense is pretty out of sorts right now, and this was like his 5th game since January
 
What happened to the more structured defensive system I was watching against the Preds?
 
The major mistake when Alexandar Georgiev tried to shoot it out from his own D zone and it ended on the stick to a Carolina defender who scored, but he is young and will learn from that mistake.
 
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