Post-Game Talk: #3 - 1/19/21 | Devils @ Rangers

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The 1st goal, if we want to say the rebound was the issue, okay and I agree he should have just caught the puck and play ends there. Yet since he did not, the coverage coming back on Zajac was a water skier. He stopped two really good chances before the 2nd goal. On the 2nd goal I can't tell if the Smith shot deflected on the way in or not, if not, yes he should have absorbed/caught it, if deflected I am not sure that would be on him.

He should have caught the initial shot and stopped the Zajac shot, he lost his angle on that one.
 
He should have caught the initial shot and stopped the Zajac shot, he lost his angle on that one.

All the same, and I agree on the first goal he should have caught the puck, the coverage issue seem to bother me just as much if not more.
 
The more I think about it, the more I think Quinn can't be the head coach of this team when they are ready to win/compete for a Stanley Cup. His line combinations are bizarre, plays his favourites more than he should, rewards players who are undeserving.

How are the younger kids going to develop if they're on the 3rd/4th line and not playing with linemates that complement their skills? The team is not ready to win yet, the playoffs are iffy at best, so the younger players should be playing in more important roles.

When they are ready to win, hire a more experienced head coach.
 
Wait, the youngest team in the league that has had a two week camp and no exhibition games AND is learning a new defensive system looks disjointed on the ice at times? Shocker that.

And now Gorton has poorly constructed the team? We ALL know that this is FAR from a finished product. But tell me, where has the construction of the roster gone awry? What should been done?

There is ZERO evidence that the top 6 are being ground into dust. And who should Kakko and Lafreniere be playing more than? The kids get hooks for accountability reasons. As well they should. Who are the vets that are getting away with murder? You're not just going to list Johnson here, are you?

The team does not appear to be dysfunctional. At all. Stagnation is lack of progress. 3 games in. NO preseason. No exhibition games. And the whole team is not growing. Who is on a bad contract?

And what does it mean to have a directionless roster?

Who is clueless and who is a genius seems to vary from game to game.

THAT is your example of a franchise in dysfunction? Really?


What an awful, condescending, downright stupid response when I was trying to be pretty fair and reasonable while talking about concerns I had. I wasnt even f***ing rude to you. I acknowledged how young the team is and how covid f***ed up training camp MYSELF.

And then you sarcastically bring it up like Im an idiot who doesnt realize it?

Thanks for being a complete dick to me for no reason
 
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I'm more underwhelmed than ever with Kakko given what I saw from Hughes. Hughes was a game breaker.

I hope Lafreniere or Kakko hit that level we saw from Hughes yesterday. Night and day from where he was last year.
 
What an awful, condescending, downright stupid response when I was trying to be pretty fair and reasonable while talking about concerns I had. I wasnt even f***ing rude to you. I acknowledged how young the team is and how covid f***ed up training camp MYSELF.

And then you sarcastically bring it up like Im an idiot who doesnt realize it?

Thanks for being a complete dick to me for no reason
Sorry if you took it that way. Not my intent.

Just feel like some fans have completely unrealistic expectations of the team and the players and then it bears out in freak outs and blame casting.
 
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I'm more underwhelmed than ever with Kakko given what I saw from Hughes. Hughes was a game breaker.

I hope Lafreniere or Kakko hit that level we saw from Hughes yesterday. Night and day from where he was last year.

Lol Hughes had an easy tap in for a goal and was gift wrapped a breakaway.

Kakko's finished breakways too.

Game breaker my ass. He was opportunistic AF.
 
How are the younger kids going to develop if they're on the 3rd/4th line and not playing with linemates that complement their skills? The team is not ready to win yet, the playoffs are iffy at best, so the younger players should be playing in more important roles.
Who do you propose they replace in the top-6?
 
VS The Devils:

PlayeriCFSAT‑FSAT‑ACF%
CRel%ZSOZSDoZS%HITBLK
Artemi Panarin441982.030.117673.900
Mika Zibanejad932880.023.715575.000
Kaapo Kakko326778.820.34180.000
Filip Chytil729878.420.65183.310
Chris Kreider8361176.620.416480.021
Phillip Di Giuseppe419676.015.210100.000
Ryan Strome4301173.213.916769.610
Jacob Trouba8291270.710.29660.031
Ryan Lindgren5231069.78.07653.801
Adam Fox7411869.510.715865.214
Pavel Buchnevich4211263.6-0.29564.320
Alexis Lafreniere110855.6-9.57653.820
Jack Johnson7172045.9-25.25741.750
Brendan Smith2121544.4-24.66185.750
K'Andre Miller2111444.0-24.660100.000
Brendan Lemieux4111739.3-31.43175.012
Julien Gauthier191833.3-38.72250.020
Brett Howden181929.6-43.43260.001
TOTAL 814663.8 68.02510
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TFOOT] [/TFOOT]



CF% after 3 games:

Chytil = 67.1
Kakko = 60.6
Laf = 57.4

TOI/60 after 3 games:

Laf = 14:42
Chytil = 12:40
Kakko = 12:04

What do you want coach?
 
VS The Devils:

PlayeriCFSAT‑FSAT‑ACF%
CRel%ZSOZSDoZS%HITBLK
Artemi Panarin441982.030.117673.900
Mika Zibanejad932880.023.715575.000
Kaapo Kakko326778.820.34180.000
Filip Chytil729878.420.65183.310
Chris Kreider8361176.620.416480.021
Phillip Di Giuseppe419676.015.210100.000
Ryan Strome4301173.213.916769.610
Jacob Trouba8291270.710.29660.031
Ryan Lindgren5231069.78.07653.801
Adam Fox7411869.510.715865.214
Pavel Buchnevich4211263.6-0.29564.320
Alexis Lafreniere110855.6-9.57653.820
Jack Johnson7172045.9-25.25741.750
Brendan Smith2121544.4-24.66185.750
K'Andre Miller2111444.0-24.660100.000
Brendan Lemieux4111739.3-31.43175.012
Julien Gauthier191833.3-38.72250.020
Brett Howden181929.6-43.43260.001
TOTAL814663.868.02510
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TFOOT] [/TFOOT]


CF% after 3 games:

Chytil = 67.1
Kakko = 60.6
Laf = 57.4

TOI/60 after 3 games:

Laf = 14:42
Chytil = 12:40
Kakko = 12:04

What do you want coach?
Lol at Howden. He looked like he was trying real hard though so
 
VS The Devils:

PlayeriCFSAT‑FSAT‑ACF%
CRel%ZSOZSDoZS%HITBLK
Artemi Panarin441982.030.117673.900
Mika Zibanejad932880.023.715575.000
Kaapo Kakko326778.820.34180.000
Filip Chytil729878.420.65183.310
Chris Kreider8361176.620.416480.021
Phillip Di Giuseppe419676.015.210100.000
Ryan Strome4301173.213.916769.610
Jacob Trouba8291270.710.29660.031
Ryan Lindgren5231069.78.07653.801
Adam Fox7411869.510.715865.214
Pavel Buchnevich4211263.6-0.29564.320
Alexis Lafreniere110855.6-9.57653.820
Jack Johnson7172045.9-25.25741.750
Brendan Smith2121544.4-24.66185.750
K'Andre Miller2111444.0-24.660100.000
Brendan Lemieux4111739.3-31.43175.012
Julien Gauthier191833.3-38.72250.020
Brett Howden181929.6-43.43260.001
TOTAL814663.868.02510
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TFOOT] [/TFOOT]


CF% after 3 games:

Chytil = 67.1
Kakko = 60.6
Laf = 57.4

TOI/60 after 3 games:

Laf = 14:42
Chytil = 12:40
Kakko = 12:04

What do you want coach?
It seems Howden went back to sucking. Funny, from the eye test he was good on tuesday.
 
VS The Devils:

PlayeriCFSAT‑FSAT‑ACF%
CRel%ZSOZSDoZS%HITBLK
Artemi Panarin441982.030.117673.900
Mika Zibanejad932880.023.715575.000
Kaapo Kakko326778.820.34180.000
Filip Chytil729878.420.65183.310
Chris Kreider8361176.620.416480.021
Phillip Di Giuseppe419676.015.210100.000
Ryan Strome4301173.213.916769.610
Jacob Trouba8291270.710.29660.031
Ryan Lindgren5231069.78.07653.801
Adam Fox7411869.510.715865.214
Pavel Buchnevich4211263.6-0.29564.320
Alexis Lafreniere110855.6-9.57653.820
Jack Johnson7172045.9-25.25741.750
Brendan Smith2121544.4-24.66185.750
K'Andre Miller2111444.0-24.660100.000
Brendan Lemieux4111739.3-31.43175.012
Julien Gauthier191833.3-38.72250.020
Brett Howden181929.6-43.43260.001
TOTAL814663.868.02510
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TFOOT] [/TFOOT]


CF% after 3 games:

Chytil = 67.1
Kakko = 60.6
Laf = 57.4

TOI/60 after 3 games:

Laf = 14:42
Chytil = 12:40
Kakko = 12:04

What do you want coach?

Pretty sure that unlike hfboards most NHL coaches don't evaluate player 100% on one statistic.
 
Lol Hughes had an easy tap in for a goal and was gift wrapped a breakaway.

Kakko's finished breakways too.

Game breaker my ass. He was opportunistic AF.

Sound like a homer to be honest. He was creating grade A chances on the ice every time he stepped on it, especially in the 2nd period.

If he played for any team other than the Devils, Islanders or Flyers I'm skeptic the criticism for him would be the same.

I'm trying to be as bias free as possible, he definitely impressed me. And I still haven't seen that level from Kakko, which I'm hoping he does.
 
Sound like a homer to be honest. He was creating grade A chances on the ice every time he stepped on it, especially in the 2nd period.

If he played for any team other than the Devils, Islanders or Flyers I'm skeptic the criticism for him would be the same.

I'm trying to be as bias free as possible, he definitely impressed me. And I still haven't seen that level from Kakko, which I'm hoping he does.

I see Korpikoski and Hagman in Kakko. nothing at all so far this season to suggest otherwise. he was better in the playin round maybe cause the other Rangers were so bad. :thumbd::sarcasm:
 



Lemieux and Zibanejad are out for maintenance reasons. Some how Quinn put together combos that I like even less than what I thought he'd do.

I mean with this organization that means nothing, but I guess thats better than day to day?


Reeeallly hope Zbad is ok....

And dude, Lemmy took BACK TO BACK clappers to the SAME EXACT SPOT on the side of his knee. Dude is a warrior and drew two penalties after he did that.

love this fckn kid.
 
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Sound like a homer to be honest. He was creating grade A chances on the ice every time he stepped on it, especially in the 2nd period.

If he played for any team other than the Devils, Islanders or Flyers I'm skeptic the criticism for him would be the same.

I'm trying to be as bias free as possible, he definitely impressed me. And I still haven't seen that level from Kakko, which I'm hoping he does.

Lol he didn't create shit outside of that. The best thing he did on his first goal was get tossed from the face off circle because he would have probably lost it.

I'll give him credit for finishing on the breakaway but some of you are acting like he controlled the game. He didn't.
 
Johnson over Smith is the weirdest f***ing thing.

Does Johnson need to play a certain amount of games in order to be exposed, or something?
 
Johnson over Smith is the weirdest f***ing thing.

Does Johnson need to play a certain amount of games in order to be exposed, or something?

Everything else I can justify but this is an odd one.

Smith has been clearly better.
 
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Everything else I can justify but this is an odd one.

Smith has been clearly better.

Same. The rest of it, I'm fine with waiting a while longer to see how it comes together.

But Johnson over Smith is just wrong, and anybody who watched a game with the two of them on the ice would agree.
 
You seem to be more concerned about your opinion being right than the Rangers.
I do have an ego :laugh: however, that tweet is obviously some serious hyperbole. If we gave Kakko top line minutes he wouldn't suddenly turn into one of the best skaters in the league. Kakko was spoon-feed top six minutes as well as plenty of PP time last season. I think that Kakko could benefit from playing on the 3rd line and learning to battle harder and add some hustle to his game
 
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Lol he didn't create shit outside of that. The best thing he did on his first goal was get tossed from the face off circle because he would have probably lost it.

I'll give him credit for finishing on the breakaway but some of you are acting like he controlled the game. He didn't.
Thats just not true. Hughes had almost twice that of the next persons time of possession, he was everywhere with the puck
 
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