Smith should be sat the entire season for the decision making that led to the Panarin breakaway goal.
Post-Game Talk: #3 - 1/19/21 | Devils @ Rangers
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Harbour Dog
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DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
No, he's just replaced Staal and Girardi and whoever else as the unscratchable one.
I do have an egohowever, that tweet is obviously some serious hyperbole. If we gave Kakko top line minutes he wouldn't suddenly turn into one of the best skaters in the league. Kakko was spoon-feed top six minutes as well as plenty of PP time last season. I think that Kakko could benefit from playing on the 3rd line and learning to battle harder and add some hustle to his game
But Hughes wasn't Hughes last year either.
Hire Sather
He Is Our Star
He will be stubborn on Johnson all year. He's not going to sit.
Coaches around the league have obsessions with these type of players.
Coaches around the league have obsessions with these type of players.
Fitzy
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Problem is I’d much rather have Tanner Glass playing a couple minutes a night on the 4th line than a poor blue liner consistently in the top six. The difference in impact to the team is tangible.
Other than "veteran" I don't see why he would fit that bill. He's not some gritty, tough D that sucks. He just sucks. Smith fits the bill much more while sucking less.
Where are you pulling this from?
I can see this relative to his teammates, but its hard for someone to do that overall when the Rangers basically had the puck for 45 minutes of this game.
Fitzy
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A few thoughts on the Hughes-Kakko comparisons rn
1) Hughes has star potential and is showing it. That has little to nothing to do with the Rangers as they had no way they could have picked him. You could have conversations about Kirby Dach but he wasn't even a consensus #3 let alone being considered a candidate for #2.
2) Kakko is going to need to play in the right system in order to thrive. Just saying that kind of admits to myself that while he may well become a star in this league, he won't ever be a franchise player. Good news for us is that if Lafreniere, Fox, and Shesty become as good as they can be, he really only needs to fill a complementary 1st line role.
3) Power forwards often take a long time to develop. Like- almost always. I know Kakko isn't a Todd Bertuzzi who is gonna be out there throwing hits at everyone who moves, but the strength of his game is, and will continue to be his strength holding off defenders, cycling, handling the puck and solid hands.
4) He's never going to be a speed demon, but that doesn't mean his skating couldn't still use some work. Still a full step behind everyone, and that's the biggest thing that bothers me.
In summation, Hughes is irrelevant to the discussion but good for him looking so solid this season so far. I know Quinn is making decisions to win each game, which sometimes means pushing young guys down the lineup when it might not be the best thing for their development. The most important thing is getting Kakko settled with a line consistently, so he can learn to work with them instead of constantly trying to change his game around to fit new linemates. I like what I've seen from the PDG-Chytil-Kakko as a third line so far. Hopefully Zibanejad being okay means they can continue to trot it out.
I'd also be intrigued to see how Panarin-Chytil-Kakko would look if a) Lafreniere moves back to LW or b) Strome continues to struggle and moves to a reduced role, possible at 3RW
Panarin-Chytil-Kakko
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1) Hughes has star potential and is showing it. That has little to nothing to do with the Rangers as they had no way they could have picked him. You could have conversations about Kirby Dach but he wasn't even a consensus #3 let alone being considered a candidate for #2.
2) Kakko is going to need to play in the right system in order to thrive. Just saying that kind of admits to myself that while he may well become a star in this league, he won't ever be a franchise player. Good news for us is that if Lafreniere, Fox, and Shesty become as good as they can be, he really only needs to fill a complementary 1st line role.
3) Power forwards often take a long time to develop. Like- almost always. I know Kakko isn't a Todd Bertuzzi who is gonna be out there throwing hits at everyone who moves, but the strength of his game is, and will continue to be his strength holding off defenders, cycling, handling the puck and solid hands.
4) He's never going to be a speed demon, but that doesn't mean his skating couldn't still use some work. Still a full step behind everyone, and that's the biggest thing that bothers me.
In summation, Hughes is irrelevant to the discussion but good for him looking so solid this season so far. I know Quinn is making decisions to win each game, which sometimes means pushing young guys down the lineup when it might not be the best thing for their development. The most important thing is getting Kakko settled with a line consistently, so he can learn to work with them instead of constantly trying to change his game around to fit new linemates. I like what I've seen from the PDG-Chytil-Kakko as a third line so far. Hopefully Zibanejad being okay means they can continue to trot it out.
I'd also be intrigued to see how Panarin-Chytil-Kakko would look if a) Lafreniere moves back to LW or b) Strome continues to struggle and moves to a reduced role, possible at 3RW
Panarin-Chytil-Kakko
Kreider-Zibanejad-Buchnevich
Lafreniere-Howden-Strome
Lemieux-Rooney-PDG
Woncka
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I meant relative to his teammates, so specifically when the Devils were in the ozone it was Jack handling the action
though among the game I would not be surprised if he had the highest of both teams. Thats his style of play
Our second goal in game 2. It was a top 3 worst decision of the last decade and somehow two of them led to goals for.
Yes. They also evaluate on their ability to do stuff and things.
will1066
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Any trades today? JJ, Howden, and Quinn for Barkov?
Which two?
The first one (bad change) is on the coaches, not the player. If anything, Johnson was late getting to the left side.
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will1066
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What got me was he glided over but didn't do anything, not even a sweep or a poke attempt. Didn't even make a dive.
Second one was he couldn't keep the puck in the offensive zone and Hughes chipped it away from him and went for a breakaway.
Who glided over? Johnson?
The second one was obvious. Hughes made the play, Trouba didn't.
GordonGecko
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Allaire has a lot of lipstick to put on Georgie, I'm not worried there. The real problem is this defense sucks big donkey balls and Quinn hasn't shown yet that he has any idea of how to put together something that works with this group
I didn’t truly blame him for that. Simply saying that was the worst thing he did. people are calling for him to be burned in effigy, and I was pointing out his worst action.
will1066
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You can't put yesterday on the defense.
Georgiev gave up 4 goals and 2 of them were mega stinkers. 1 bad goal is tough enough to over come.
GordonGecko
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True but Allaire will straighten him out, I'm not worried for him as a backup. IMO Overall the defense has never been good under Quinn though
will1066
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Well, at least Quinn remarked that the issue was neutral zone sloppiness in the first 12 minutes that did them in. Said the team didn't protect the puck and couldn't make the 5 foot passes that enable them to attack as a unit of five.
So he's not blind or clueless. The players keep resorting to playing pond hockey thinking they're so good.
So he's not blind or clueless. The players keep resorting to playing pond hockey thinking they're so good.
Cmox
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Miller won’t be scratched. He was touted and talked up by all of the coaches aNd higher ups. They’d feel to embarrassed to do the wrong thing. Thankfully.
