24/25 Waivers/Rumors/TDL Thread.

[JohanFranzenstein]

I turned the presser off, but did Steve say he wants to run 3 goalies again next season? Talbot/Petr/Cossa, and waive or trade the underperformer between Talbot and Petr.

 

[SimonEdvinssonAtSix]

I turned the presser off, but did Steve say he wants to run 3 goalies again next season? Talbot/Petr/Cossa, and waive or trade the underperformer between Talbot and Petr.

I think it's more along the lines of if Cossa plays his way into the lineup then they will make room for him.
Otherwise Cossa will be in GR getting more playing time until he is ready.

 

[Redwing66]

I think it's more along the lines of if Cossa plays his way into the lineup then they will make room for him.
Otherwise Cossa will be in GR getting more playing time until he is ready.

Same old routine - The kids are the future, we default positions to the aged non-performing veteran over the kids in some they must earn it drivel. Kids get overripe as we continue to skate an inferior team because they are vets. We draft and collect mid-tier talent and never make trades to infuse talent or clear log-jams of prospects we have accumulated. We'll be in this unending pattern for the foreseeable future.

We got rid of Mrazk once, I'm sure there's a long-term strategy to reacquire Husso as well - and some here will again celebrate the move.

 

[SimonEdvinssonAtSix]

Same old routine - The kids are the future, we default positions to the aged non-performing veteran over the kids in some they must earn it drivel. Kids get overripe as we continue to skate an inferior team because they are vets. We draft and collect mid-tier talent and never make trades to infuse talent or clear log-jams of prospects we have accumulated. We'll be in this unending pattern for the foreseeable future.

We got rid of Mrazk once, I'm sure there's a long-term strategy to reacquire Husso as well - and some here will again celebrate the move.

You're free to feel your feels man. But I'm happy as a pig in S over here. You should walk the path of the Jedi bro, it's more upbeat on this side.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

I turned the presser off, but did Steve say he wants to run 3 goalies again next season? Talbot/Petr/Cossa, and waive or trade the underperformer between Talbot and Petr.

He didn't mention that.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

I turned the presser off, but did Steve say he wants to run 3 goalies again next season? Talbot/Petr/Cossa, and waive or trade the underperformer between Talbot and Petr.

Funny, but I too for the first time since he came back turned his presser off...

 

[lilidk]

Just loose every single game , I don't care until next season. I hope they let some prospects to play couple of games

 

[odin1981]

He is doing it to shit on Yzerman. But that might be the worst trade in Red Wings history.

What context is that view under? The modern era? Because that I can remember the worst deal they made would probably be Adam Oates, granted he was stuck behind Steve and Sergei in the lineup though.

 

[Chris Langlois]

The best part of the presser was when he said there's a possibility asp comes over after his shl season is over.

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

Sens 2 pts , nyr 1

Time to tank and hopefully get 7-8th pick . Sucks but this season's over , we should have dealt lyon

Bruins are clearly tanking and in rebuild mode... wondering what it would take for pastrnak

1st +nygaard+plante+johansson ???

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

Good game from cozens ... sucks we didn't land him I'll never understand buffalo trading him for an injury prone player and giving away a 2nd lmao

 

[jkutswings]

You're free to feel your feels man. But I'm happy as a pig in S over here. You should walk the path of the Jedi bro, it's more upbeat on this side.

I can be happy that Seider and Raymond were home run picks, that Edvinsson and Casper are looking very good, and that Johansson has been a pleasant surprise...

... and still be frustrated that the team is going nowhere in terms of improving in the standings.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Sens 2 pts , nyr 1

Time to tank and hopefully get 7-8th pick . Sucks but this season's over , we should have dealt lyon

Bruins are clearly tanking and in rebuild mode... wondering what it would take for pastrnak

1st +nygaard+plante+johansson ???

Pastrnak is a top 10 player in the NHL signed long term at a great cap hit and you think it would only take a single 1st, our like 4th best prospect and depth pieces…?

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

Pastrnak is a top 10 player in the NHL signed long term at a great cap hit and you think it would only take a single 1st, our like 4th best prospect and depth pieces…?

Yes

 

[nbwingsfan]

Yes

Yikes dude.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

It would take what Rantanen got and more I think. Pasta doing these big years without other big players forward wise is more impressive than Rantanen numbers with Mackinnon in my opinion. I mean the points difference between him and the next best point getter is a huge gap.

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

Yikes dude.

Rantanen got 2 1sts and 2nd rounder 5'8 stankoven

Nygaard is one of our better prospects,plante was a 2nd rounder producing ... johansson has been one of our better dmen besides the obvious big 2

Nobody is going to give up 2 top end prospects, a really good younger roster player + whatever else your thinking

Not saying that specific proposal I wrote would get it done but I think it would be something similar

No team would offer a roster player like raymond edvinsson seider for pastrnak. A #1 prospect like asp .... you'll get a minten,Cowan type prospect from a top end team

Anyways it's just talk I can't see bruins dealing pastrnak for at least another 1-2 years unless he demands to be out

 

[ElProfessor]

Is this working?

 

[nbwingsfan]

Rantanen got 2 1sts and 2nd rounder 5'8 stankoven

Nygaard is one of our better prospects,plante was a 2nd rounder producing ... johansson has been one of our better dmen besides the obvious big 2

Nobody is going to give up 2 top end prospects, a really good younger roster player + whatever else your thinking

Not saying that specific proposal I wrote would get it done but I think it would be something similar

No team would offer a roster player like raymond edvinsson seider for pastrnak. A #1 prospect like asp .... you'll get a minten,Cowan type prospect from a top end team

Anyways it's just talk I can't see bruins dealing pastrnak for at least another 1-2 years unless he demands to be out

1. Pastrnak is a much better player than Rantanen

2. Stankoven isn’t just a a 2nd rounder, he’s a top prospect who’s miles ahead of where Plante is in terms of value

3. AJ is a bottom pair D player at this point on any good team.

 

[LeighDx59]

Abit dissapointed that we didnt upgrade the defense or anything, but I wouldve said had we won at least two of the past fives games Yzerman might have been more aggressive on the trade front. I do think Smith is an upgrade on Veleno, albeit a small upgrade, but as someone who is familiar with Smith from his time in Nashville, the guy is a gamer. His effort level might rub off on the rest of the bottom six and might help. Mrazek is kind of a eh acquistion. If he shows up and plays well, I think it'll help alleviate the workload on Talbot and keep him fresher.

Wow, is this site working again?

First i thought, well Copp's out for rest of the season and this is his replacement. Then i thought, wait a minute, doesn't Smith still play in Nashville. Then i realized i got Smith and Sissons mixed up. I wouldn't mind Sissons, espesicially with that price but Smith. Seems bad and washed, high hopes from Stevie that Smith can help us in the playoffs.

Mrazek, welcome back i guess. I thought Lyon gets traded but he didn't. This is confusing....

Damn, damn, damn.... Zetterlund went dirt cheap. Wings should have been there, i would have paid more than the Sens did.

McCann would have been good fit, even with these prices i would have pulled the trigger. Bit risky perhaps but no guarantees that those mid 1st round picks would improve the team either.

Yzerman should have been more aggressive, McCann+Zetterlund would have been A+ haul. Disappointing TDL.

This years version of Sissons is one that would frustrate everyone here. I dont know if its coaching or the system or if his body is starting to fall apart, but he has been bad this year.

Same old routine - The kids are the future, we default positions to the aged non-performing veteran over the kids in some they must earn it drivel. Kids get overripe as we continue to skate an inferior team because they are vets. We draft and collect mid-tier talent and never make trades to infuse talent or clear log-jams of prospects we have accumulated. We'll be in this unending pattern for the foreseeable future.

We got rid of Mrazk once, I'm sure there's a long-term strategy to reacquire Husso as well - and some here will again celebrate the move.

Why do people assume Yzerman wont make room if Cossa is ready? Yzerman hasnt been shy about waiving players if they arent helping the team, especially goaltending, or else Husso wouldve stayed on the roster the entire time he was here.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Try for Beniers?

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

1. Pastrnak is a much better player than Rantanen

2. Stankoven isn’t just a a 2nd rounder, he’s a top prospect who’s miles ahead of where Plante is in terms of value

3. AJ is a bottom pair D player at this point on any good team.

Much? Na ... you can say you think hes a better play but hes not "much" better

Stankoven is 22 and in the nhl so yes hes ahead or plante . He hasn't proven squat yet. Might just end up being a 45ish pt forward

I'm sure alot of teams would take Johansson in a heartbeat if we called them

Point is no team will give up their #1 prospect or top young roster player like edvinsson seider raymond for pastranak . You'll get a top prospect off a contending team which wont be close to a #1 prospect on a team like us who's still rebuilding

Like I said , hes not going anywhere yet got the next 12-24 months anyways

 

[nbwingsfan]

Much? Na ... you can say you think hes a better play but hes not "much" better

Stankoven is 22 and in the nhl so yes hes ahead or plante . He hasn't proven squat yet. Might just end up being a 45ish pt forward

I'm sure alot of teams would take Johansson in a heartbeat if we called them

Point is no team will give up their #1 prospect or top young roster player like edvinsson seider raymond for pastranak . You'll get a top prospect off a contending team which wont be close to a #1 prospect on a team like us who's still rebuilding

Like I said , hes not going anywhere yet got the next 12-24 months anyways

Stankoven did before the NHL is way more impressive. He’s only in his D+4 scoring at a 40pt pace in his rookie season. You think he’s just not going to improve?

And yes, what Pastrnak has done the last three seasons is MUCH more impressive than what Rantanen has done. It’s not even debatable

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

Stankoven did before the NHL is way more impressive. He’s only in his D+4 scoring at a 40pt pace in his rookie season. You think he’s just not going to improve?

And yes, what Pastrnak has done the last three seasons is MUCH more impressive than what Rantanen has done. It’s not even debatable

Could improve, dont think he'll be a 70-85 pt forward. Probably be in the 40-55 most his career. Dont think he'll ever be "the guy"

23 more pts in the last 3 seasons... you'd think hed have 100 more pts. Yes I know you can't only evaluate on pts , again it's not much. That's just your take, I'm sure alot of ppl around the league would say hes better. Not many would say hes far much better

Anyways

 

[SimonEdvinssonAtSix]

I can be happy that Seider and Raymond were home run picks, that Edvinsson and Casper are looking very good, and that Johansson has been a pleasant surprise...

... and still be frustrated that the team is going nowhere in terms of improving in the standings.

For sure man. I don't quite understand why you've picked me or the posts I made to express this sentiment though.