He has chosen to not do so the last 3 years..he just isn't that good..he's replaceable
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He has chosen to not do so the last 3 years..he just isn't that good..he's replaceable
lilidk
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We don't know how things will continue in GR, who is ready and who is not for NHL. Someone from that group could be playing at the end of the season for Detroit. If Detroit decide to tank, we see opportunity for youngsters. MBN should not be ahead of some of those guys .
19 for president
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I agree that is why I went with 3 total. I was thinking more a top 9 distribution. Having multiple sub 6ft guys on a line usually doesn't work well long term, especially in the playoffs. Ray's a stockier build so you could probably do it on his line, but the others play more like DBC. Ray line 1 and then two of the 4 fighting out for spots on lines 2 and 3.
I am all about having hopefully a scoring 3rd line at some point. I should have been more clear that by top 6 I was more referring to smaller guys in a scoring role than them directly being on those top 2 lines.
norrisnick
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Tall doesn't = better. Never has. It's asinine to keep going back to that well and keep ending up with big bodies like Mantha or Ras that really don't do much with regards to winning. Give me a Hudler or Igor or whoever any day.
Lombardi isn’t a center at the NHL level and had 26 points in 70 games in the A at Danielsson’s age. They also play different styles and have different responsibilities. Zero chance Yzerman trades away center depth with Larkin closing in on 30 and the offensive upside of Kasper unknown.
Cossa has newly been promoted to the first team according to the website eliteprospects.
Lolol you think the almost 25 year old pacing for LESS THAN 8 POINTS on a full season in his 5th year, having never hit 30 points, has untapped offensive potential? Are you spewing hot takes in here for funsies? Veleno is a black hole defensively. He creates no chances for himself or his linemates. There is nothing you can point to, a la Kasper and Berggren, that suggests he has more in the tank. He got 14 minutes a night last year while being on the 2nd PP unit and couldn’t break 30 points. His chance to prove he could at least repeat last years production is now, this season, and it’s looking like he won’t even hit double digit points. His time is up. He’s such a vanilla NHL player that I’m surprised the nickname “Vanillo” hasn’t taken off yet.
SantosHalper
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Husso's contract ends after this season and Petry ain't going anywhere, NMC. Lyon, Motte, Fischer and Kane, if he wants will be most likely only tradeable players.
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Opinion:
1.
Trade Veleno
Trade Kane(wherever he wants to go)
Trade Wallinder
For
Something. 2 out the 3 don't have a future in Detroit and 1 is 50/50.
I think that package could get a decent return.
2. Place Gustafsson on waivers.
Nobody picks him up, he's very easy to bury. Helps the GR PP.
3. Trade Lyon.
His low cap hit and track record will get Detroit something, maybe as high as a 2nd. I said maybe.
1.
Trade Veleno
Trade Kane(wherever he wants to go)
Trade Wallinder
For
Something. 2 out the 3 don't have a future in Detroit and 1 is 50/50.
I think that package could get a decent return.
2. Place Gustafsson on waivers.
Nobody picks him up, he's very easy to bury. Helps the GR PP.
3. Trade Lyon.
His low cap hit and track record will get Detroit something, maybe as high as a 2nd. I said maybe.
cvaicunas
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2 MORE years?! Leading up to the draft scouts were questioning if his offense would translate to the NHL, that's why he dropped. It's pretty clear it has not.
Veleno has been mostly useless throughout his time wearing the Winged Wheel...I remember have a hearty guffaw a few years ago when seeing people gush how Joe 'Swoleno' was getting buff in the gym during an off season...lol what a waste of time - dude is softer than butter on the Ariz highway in August...If there's anyone in need of watching the 'Grind Line' VHS tapes it's this guy.
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Veleno signed new two + maybe one extra procurement. Veleno are 4 center and 5 center.
Yes of course if it is planned.
100% waived.
2.
Gustafsson is a redwing many many years to.
3.
Trade Husso and Petry we save 11 Million dollar next season.
Veleno signed new two + maybe one extra procurement. Veleno are 4 center and 5 center.
Yes of course if it is planned.
100% waived.
2.
Gustafsson is a redwing many many years to.
3.
Trade Husso and Petry we save 11 Million dollar next season.
TheOctopusKid
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Just look at some of the suggested moves on this thread, just a friendly reminder:
Defenseman almost always return some value (unless your Walman), so despite the fact we think Holl, Chiarot, Gustafsson, Petry, etc. etc. are all absolute hot garbage and the worst thing to walk the earth (some of which I do believe that)... there is almost always some GM who is willing to add some depth to their blue line with the only real exceptions being cost prohibitive cap hit.
We live in a world where Leddy returned a lot of assets, Mattaa's one leg and pylon-level edge work got us a 3rd, where we could trade a very mid Nick Jensen for a 2nd, where we actually paid a pick for Jeff Petry, where Kindl got us a 6th (HA), and where Kyle Quincy was worth a 1st+...
I think these guys - and their relatively modest cap hits - might return some more value than you would think
Defenseman almost always return some value (unless your Walman), so despite the fact we think Holl, Chiarot, Gustafsson, Petry, etc. etc. are all absolute hot garbage and the worst thing to walk the earth (some of which I do believe that)... there is almost always some GM who is willing to add some depth to their blue line with the only real exceptions being cost prohibitive cap hit.
We live in a world where Leddy returned a lot of assets, Mattaa's one leg and pylon-level edge work got us a 3rd, where we could trade a very mid Nick Jensen for a 2nd, where we actually paid a pick for Jeff Petry, where Kindl got us a 6th (HA), and where Kyle Quincy was worth a 1st+...
I think these guys - and their relatively modest cap hits - might return some more value than you would think
LeighDx59
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If Trotz keeps moving on from younger players in Nashville, I'd want Yzerman to try and grab Parssinen.
Snuggs
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" Petry for a pick... I like it, Joe.
Jamie, can you pull up some trade rumors for us please. "
GarlicbreadTB
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Yeah logically it seems like Wings are likely. But money would have to go back to make it work. Holl?
Henkka
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Trouba with salary retention to ~5M range would not be bad idea.
They could also send Gustafsson or whatever back in a trade.
And NYR would still pay incentive with a draft pick.
They could also send Gustafsson or whatever back in a trade.
And NYR would still pay incentive with a draft pick.
saska sault
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Honestly ... grab Trouba and send anyone back. Time for a shake up. Could care less about his salary, reputation, anything. Team needs something.
yeah I'd be fine with it, especially if we can get rid of our own bad contract. He isn't great but I'd take him over Petry all day for the next year and a half.
