Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread IX

[Dr Hook]

It’s hard to know what they need.

At the start of the year, everyone (and I mean that literally) was sure we needed a RW to play with Marchand. In my mind, I was picturing a shooter to go with his 63’s passing and 13’s net front presence.

Twenty games in, it looked like we needed a LW to play with Zacha and Pasta. IMO, the best fit there would have been a power forward who played around the net and below the goal line, a Bertuzzi type.

Then last game they put Marchand-Lindholm and Pasta together and they look great. Now it feels like they need a LW to play with Zacha and Brazeau, but this time I’m thinking a play driver who like to carry and make plays.

So in my mind we’ve gone from
RW shooter to LW power forward to LW play driver.

The way this season has gone, we might need something else in twenty games

 

[Greek_physique]

I still think Trent will and can fill that role with Pasta. ImO, I still want a RW...like a Rust

Fred Lindholm Pasta
Marchand Zacha ???
Geekie Coyle Braz

 

[PlayMakers]

They need a first line quality winger and then you make up the lines from there.

Yeah but any first line type?

Those play styles range from Stamkos to Kreider to Granlund.

(Just using those names as examples of playing styles, not age or cap considerations.)

 

[wintersej]

Yeah but any first line type?

Those play styles range from Stamkos to Kreider to Granlund.

I mean if you are thinking about a multi year commitment you are also taking into account Marchand trending down and hopefully Poitras and Lysell trending up. If there are legit first line wingers that are available that you can get, are you a begger or a chooser?

 

[Dr Hook]

I mean if you are thinking about a multi year commitment you are also taking into account Marchand trending down and hopefully Poitras and Lysell trending up. If there are legit first line wingers that are available that you can get, are you a begger or a chooser?

I hope they are choosers and if they acquire a top 6 F this season (and who knows if they will?) I want it to be the BPA that's well under 30 that can be a long-term Bruin.

 

[wintersej]

I hope they are choosers and if they acquire a top 6 F this season (and who knows if they will?) I want it to be the BPA that's well under 30 that can be a long-term Bruin.

Yeah this isn’t a team you hit the rental market for.

Edit: I would make an exception to the 30+ thing for Kreider but don’t think I’d pay the price given then limited assets and the assumed desire for NYR to make a hockey trade. Like I wouldn’t move out Carlo for Kreider.

 

[PlayMakers]

I mean if you are thinking about a multi year commitment you are also taking into account Marchand trending down and hopefully Poitras and Lysell trending up. If there are legit first line wingers that are available that you can get, are you a begger or a chooser?

I guess it depends on their priorities. If they’re thinking long term, then yeah, BPA. If they’re trying to make some noise in the playoffs then I’d think “fit” matters more.

A Stamkos probably isn’t going to be a great fit with Pasta because they do all the same things, but might be a great match for Marchand. A Kreider probably isn’t going to make sense on a line with Brazeau, but could be the guy that elevates Zacha-Pasta to the next level. Where do you get the most bang for your buck?

 

[sarge88]

I like the guy from Anaheim

Secondly, Anaheim got Trouba for nothing….why?

Gave the Rangers cap room and they just extended Shesterkin at around 11m.

 

[LouJersey]

You take advantage of some GM overrating him and deal him. He’s plateaued here

 

[bruins4thecup65]

Kreider and Lingdren would be sick

Carlo and Frederick out

And then Zegras for Geekie and Lysell

Cmon Sweeney

 

[Sevendust]

Holy crap. They should be open for business. Get a 2nd round pick or something. Anything.

No, get a very good prospect who has very high chance to play in the NHL for him.

 

[Ozzy Osbourne]

Just heard Ty Andersen on sports hub and he seems to agree that taking on Kreider at this stage of his career is a bad move. Cites his contract term/ age, and history of power forwards breaking down in their mid 30’s.

Seems like a David Backes situation all over again.

I get that, but I don’t think he’s got as many miles as Backes. Didn’t he score 50 just a couple years ago? I think it’s more the Rangers breaking down than Kreider.

 

[bbfan419]

Actually its to age 36 with Kreider, thru end of RS 2027-28.

I think Nelson will cost a 1st rounder or Lysell.

I would trade Lysell, but not moving that 1st.

 

[bbfan419]

With the Rangers clear cap space they gave Trouba away for nothing basically, I think Kreider could be had for less than people think.

 

[GordonHowe]

he is a dirt dog

Who?

 

[GordonHowe]

Joe Sacco’s latest lineup tweaks are paying dividends for the Bruins

Joe Sacco seems to be making all of the right moves with the Bruins, with his latest lineup tweaks leading to a 4-2 win in Chicago.

www.boston.com

 

[Mad-Marcus]

Who?

Post 473 contains what I quoted and my response.

 

[JayMark]

I would trade Lysell, but not moving that 1st.

Ya they need to hang on to that 1st so that they can draft another Letourneau (2 assists this year).

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Lohrei with the nice stick work there

 

[Gee Wally]

Third line using size and strength to come up big for Bruins - The Boston Globe

The Bruins' third line is literally a big deal.

www.bostonglobe.com

The Bruins’ third line is literally a big deal.

Charlie Coyle (6 feet 3 inches, 215 pounds), Trent Frederic (6-3, 221), and Mark Kastelic (6-4, 227) haven’t been together long but have built chemistry through their size and strength.

Coach Joe Sacco has often put his Big Three in a position to mute opponents’ big guns, including in Saturday’s 4-3 overtime win over the Flyers at TD Garden.

Frederic scored a pair of goals, and Coyle and Kastelic had an assist each.

“I like their identity as a line. They’re three big bodies. They can get in the forecheck. They’re physical,” Sacco said. “They’re physical on the puck, they’re physical away from the puck and they’ve been playing against top lines, which is a nice luxury for us to have. We can use them as a checking line against top lines, which frees up some of our other lines to play more offensively.”

Coyle relishes the opportunities to match up against elite players.

“It’s nice because more times than not those top players in the team are going to play big minutes. So, if it’s our job to go against them, we’re going to be playing a lot,” said Coyle. “So, we love that. Get into the game more when you play that much. But it’s a challenge that we like to bring on and yeah, No. 1, we want to stop them, but No. 2, let’s score ourselves and we’ll do the things that lead to that. But it’s a good challenge to be like, ‘Hey, let’s out work this line and outscore them, too, while we’re at it.’ ”

A natural center, Coyle likes playing with two guys who have backgrounds in the position, allowing for greater versatility whether it’s in the faceoff circle or getting back defensively.

“We can all take draws or coming into our own zone we’re not worried about, ‘Oh I got to switch to this guy, make sure I’m down low, help out,‘ ” he said. “We just come back, look at each other, talk, and we’re in our positions.”

With their size, all three can protect pucks by shielding defenders with their body position, allowing them to extend time in the offensive end.

“That’s kind of the same mind-set, too, where we don’t have to worry about making sure the guy in the O-zone is in the right place. Same thing. It doesn’t matter who’s in the corner, that guy can hang onto it,” said Coyle. “We don’t have to rush in there to help him with a battle unless of course they have numbers, but we can all hold our own down there and play any position in that offensive zone.

“For a line going against us, we’ve got three guys who can hang on to the puck and work and do that. That’s a tough task. I played against those guys, too, and it’s not fun. So, if you can wear teams down, maybe we don’t capitalize ourselves but that next shift, that next line goes out, maybe we hem them in and we get a line change, and those guys capitalize. So, it’s just those little things like that we’re all capable of doing. So, we’ve got to make sure we make that staple in our game.”

 

[PB37]

Interesting to note, that while Coyle plays center for the line during play, it's Kastelic who is taking all of the draws. Coyle has only one faceoff attempt in the last 3 games. Kastelic is the better of the two at the dot and second best on the team behind Beecher.

 

[DKH]

Poitras looking good in Providence

He’s my add right now

Geekie - Zacha - Pastrnak
Marchand - Lindholm - Brazeau
Frederic- Coyle - Kastelic
Beecher - Poitras - Koepke

 

[DKH]

It’s hard to know what they need.

At the start of the year, everyone (and I mean that literally) was sure we needed a RW to play with Marchand. In my mind, I was picturing a shooter to go with his 63’s passing and 13’s net front presence.

Twenty games in, it looked like we needed a LW to play with Zacha and Pasta. IMO, the best fit there would have been a power forward who played around the net and below the goal line, a Bertuzzi type.

Then last game they put Marchand-Lindholm and Pasta together and they look great. Now it feels like they need a LW to play with Zacha and Brazeau, but this time I’m thinking a play driver who like to carry and make plays.

So in my mind we’ve gone from
RW shooter to LW power forward to LW play driver.

I wanted DeBrusk with Pastrnak they had chemistry and good relationship could have been good

DeBrusk also played defense

Felger on his shitty troll show turned his listeners against this guy

 

[Blowfish]

Third line using size and strength to come up big for Bruins - The Boston Globe

The Bruins' third line is literally a big deal.

www.bostonglobe.com

The Bruins’ third line is literally a big deal.

Charlie Coyle (6 feet 3 inches, 215 pounds), Trent Frederic (6-3, 221), and Mark Kastelic (6-4, 227) haven’t been together long but have built chemistry through their size and strength.

Coach Joe Sacco has often put his Big Three in a position to mute opponents’ big guns, including in Saturday’s 4-3 overtime win over the Flyers at TD Garden.

Frederic scored a pair of goals, and Coyle and Kastelic had an assist each.

“I like their identity as a line. They’re three big bodies. They can get in the forecheck. They’re physical,” Sacco said. “They’re physical on the puck, they’re physical away from the puck and they’ve been playing against top lines, which is a nice luxury for us to have. We can use them as a checking line against top lines, which frees up some of our other lines to play more offensively.”

Coyle relishes the opportunities to match up against elite players.

“It’s nice because more times than not those top players in the team are going to play big minutes. So, if it’s our job to go against them, we’re going to be playing a lot,” said Coyle. “So, we love that. Get into the game more when you play that much. But it’s a challenge that we like to bring on and yeah, No. 1, we want to stop them, but No. 2, let’s score ourselves and we’ll do the things that lead to that. But it’s a good challenge to be like, ‘Hey, let’s out work this line and outscore them, too, while we’re at it.’ ”

A natural center, Coyle likes playing with two guys who have backgrounds in the position, allowing for greater versatility whether it’s in the faceoff circle or getting back defensively.

“We can all take draws or coming into our own zone we’re not worried about, ‘Oh I got to switch to this guy, make sure I’m down low, help out,‘ ” he said. “We just come back, look at each other, talk, and we’re in our positions.”

With their size, all three can protect pucks by shielding defenders with their body position, allowing them to extend time in the offensive end.

“That’s kind of the same mind-set, too, where we don’t have to worry about making sure the guy in the O-zone is in the right place. Same thing. It doesn’t matter who’s in the corner, that guy can hang onto it,” said Coyle. “We don’t have to rush in there to help him with a battle unless of course they have numbers, but we can all hold our own down there and play any position in that offensive zone.

“For a line going against us, we’ve got three guys who can hang on to the puck and work and do that. That’s a tough task. I played against those guys, too, and it’s not fun. So, if you can wear teams down, maybe we don’t capitalize ourselves but that next shift, that next line goes out, maybe we hem them in and we get a line change, and those guys capitalize. So, it’s just those little things like that we’re all capable of doing. So, we’ve got to make sure we make that staple in our game.”

Love the 3rd line.

 

[bme44]

Poitras looking good in Providence

He’s my add right now

Geekie - Zacha - Pastrnak
Marchand - Lindholm - Brazeau
Frederic- Coyle - Kastelic
Beecher - Poitras - Koepke

Let Poitras stay in the A till the New Year, and become more comfortable playing against men.

I agree he is a player I want in the Bruin line up