Rumor: 23-24 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Part Trois: The Road to the Deadline

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- shift Rantanen there (leaves spots open for both Nuke / Landy on the wings)
- what's wrong with Annunen?
- If you consider we have (Makar, Toews, Girard, Byram & Manson as the locks), having Jones, Johnson, Hunt and Malinski is SURELY enough?

Drouin - Mack - Nuke
Landy - Rants - Parise
Lehks - RyJo - LOC
Wood - Colton - Cogs

Toews - Makar
Byram - Manson
Girard - Johnson

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Annunen

0 trades required.

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I don't think the Avs are looking for depth defensemen. Even Jones and Malinski have already played 20+ games on the big club. This should suffice.

Toews - Makar
Girard - Manson
JMFJ - Byram
Jones - Malinski
Hunt

I'm only expecting
- 2C = Wennberg, Roslovic, or Granlund
- Backup = Kahkonen or if Pitts decides to sell Nedeljkovic
- Annual AHLer for AHLer
 

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I don't think the Avs are looking for depth defensemen. Even Jones and Malinski have already played 20+ games on the big club. This should suffice.

Toews - Makar
Girard - Manson
JMFJ - Byram
Jones - Malinski
Hunt

I'm only expecting
- 2C = Wennberg, Roslovic, or Granlund
- Backup = Kahkonen or if Pitts decides to sell Nedeljkovic
- Annual AHLer for AHLer

I think we could use a role player on defense. Defensive minded PK guy on the bottom pairing.

But it's definitely 3rd down the list after 2C and back up goalie.
 
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- shift Rantanen there (leaves spots open for both Nuke / Landy on the wings)
- what's wrong with Annunen?
- If you consider we have (Makar, Toews, Girard, Byram & Manson as the locks), having Jones, Johnson, Hunt and Malinski is SURELY enough?

Drouin - Mack - Nuke
Landy - Rants - Parise
Lehks - RyJo - LOC
Wood - Colton - Cogs

Toews - Makar
Byram - Manson
Girard - Johnson

Georgiev
Annunen

0 trades required.

0 injuries required
 
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But it would be for Cozens alone though. Cozens on the Avs behind Mack and getting better match up could easily go back to being a 65-70 pts and maybe more.

This season we have Mikko at 9.25M and a 2C at 4M (Ryjo). It doesn't matter if Ryjo is being played at 2C or not, it is what is being allocated to that position. That is 13.25M between the two. If you have Cozens at 7.1M it gives you 6.15M for a top-6 W. The Avs scouts could find a 60pt W for that price with the other pieces we would get in that trade. We would give up a bit of production but the lineup would be much better constructed. It helps next season but it would help even more when Mikko would get his new 13M contract. At that time depth would be very difficult to fill without weakening our defense.

And we have not even talked about cap increase and/or Landy possibly being back next season.
Cozens so far had one season that he had 68 points. it does not seem he is coming close to that this season. So the judgment is still out there, whether last season was just some outlier, or he can in fact perform to that level regularly. Thus, the statement, he could be “easily” be 65-70 points at Avs is based on nothing just wishful thinking. It could as “easily” turn out he is more of 45 points guy on career average, and then congrats, you squandered perennial PPG player and top 10 winger in the world over the last 3-5 years to get that. Only because he has apparently a down season, when compred to recent years (while still somhow being 9th in entire league, when it comes to production).

So, if you need 2C, first and foremost you lose RyJo to unlock the 4 millions. You mentioned Landy, we have no clue, even if he returns, that he will ever be able to play at the same level, in other words, be PPG-ish player he used to be. So, if needed, you lose him as well. Or, you lose one of the Manson, Girard or maybe Byram. But Mikko shall be one of the last names on the roster to go, unless its really a no go with a new contract (which we dont know at this point). Bottom line, nobody in their right mind trades away their guaranteed star player for a couple of middle-six players with potential, unless they have to.
 
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Besides Cozens, the rest of that package is pretty meh for a top 10 winger in the NHL. Plus the Avs need pieces to win now
Ostlund is a very good prospect and 2024 first top 10 we can draft Iginla son's
 

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"Ryan Graves — It’s quite unlikely there are any takers, given his contract and his disappointing performance. But if you’re the Penguins, maybe you take less if the other team is willing to take on Graves’ contract."

Ohh, what??
I think he meant 'add more' instead of take less...

Hahahaha I totally called it dubas is a clueless dumbass. Imagine they added EK to a group that already included Crosby and Malkin and can't even make the playoffs. He was fooled by his 'no-defense Norris season' like some sort of idiot who couldn't be bothered to actually watch him play and traded for him by reputation and point totals.
 
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I think he meant 'add more' instead of take less...

Hahahaha I totally called it dubas is a clueless dumbass. Imagine they added EK to a group that already included Crosby and Malkin and can't even make the playoffs. He was fooled by his 'no-defense Norris season' like some sort of idiot who couldn't be bothered to actually watch him play and traded for him by reputation and point totals.

Dubas always seemed to me like the guy that thought he already knew everything and doesn’t really listen to others. He and the Leafs are a big reason for the massively expanding contracts, they caved to every demand their “Core 4” made.
 
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I don't think the Avs are looking for depth defensemen. Even Jones and Malinski have already played 20+ games on the big club. This should suffice.

Toews - Makar
Girard - Manson
JMFJ - Byram
Jones - Malinski
Hunt

I'm only expecting
- 2C = Wennberg, Roslovic, or Granlund
- Backup = Kahkonen or if Pitts decides to sell Nedeljkovic
- Annual AHLer for AHLer
An upgrade on JMFJ is desperately needed. He and Malinski are fine as the 7/8D but JJ should not be a regular going into the playoffs.
 

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An upgrade on JMFJ is desperately needed. He and Malinski are fine as the 7/8D but JJ should not be a regular going into the playoffs.
Honestly defensive upgrade should be the lowest priority. Between JMFJ, Malinski, and Jones if you can't get passable 6th dman or of one then you're screwed anyway. We really can't afford to allocate any more money on defense. We are already spending too much there.

The resources we do have should be used finding something remotely playable as a 2C and a backup goalie. If you've addressed both those and you still have some money resources to spare then you can look for an upgrade to JMFJ.
 
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