Rumor: 23-24 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Part Trois: The Road to the Deadline

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[JH21]

Not apples to apples and he took a discount but there’s no reason Rantanen should make more than petey

How so? He's a better player

 

[Mighty Makar]

Yikes. Now the guy is definitely going to avoid going into corners or doing dirty work. He as soft as butter. Just as soft as Marner and Nylander.

Didn’t I tell you to go back to bed?

 

[sethro109]

If he is on waivers for contract termination, I'd be more than happy to welcome here on a minimum contract for the rest of the year.


But yeah I wouldn't let him and Nuke room or hang out together on the road.

 

[JH21]

To some here it doesn't because "the window will be close by then". To a lot of us it does. That means it would be extremely hard to trade Mikko. I'm in the camp that trading Mikko doesn't close the window. For the right pieces it can in fact extend it. But to each his own.

Well you're wrong

 

[JH21]

RyJo for Kuz @50%?


I'd still hope we make a move for Henrique at least, but if they aren't going after a long term solution like Mittelstadt or Nelson at the deadline, swapping for Kuz and adding Henrique would at least give them two shots at finding a 2C they can win with instead of 1.


Again, I'd much prefer the legit solution of Mittelstadt, but I could see the Avs looking at that option.

Why? He's no better than Johansen and is an absolute cancer in the locker room. Do you just want us to make a move for the sake of it?

No freaking thanks.

 

[the_fan]

Part of why I hated the Zadorov trade. Nothing wrong with the value or player but why not target someone better and pay a little bit more. They just added a rich man’s Tyler Myers

You can maybe get away with having one Zadorov, Myers or Cole type on your blue line, who are just 3rd pair guys that shouldn’t get tons of ice time, but just be out there make the simple plays and not cost your team by making mistakes. The problem is, Nucks have all 3 of them and they’re supposed to be key to their d core, that’s where they’re in trouble

 

[AllAboutAvs]

Well, that's nice but the window will be closed by then, unless they do it immediately.

"By then" pretty well means the first year of his contract. I just don't understand why people want to put themselves into that corner. If you trade him you give yourselves a pretty good chance to have other kicks at the can. You don't need two superstars and arguably a third one on your team to win a cup. Look at other teams contending now or in the past. With Mack, Makar and some very good supporting cast that will balance the lineup a lot better the Avs can still be a very strong contender. You obviously need to NOT f**k up that trade. It doesn't need to happen at this TDL also. It can be this summer but IMO it needs to happen or we have this year and MAYBE next year at the most to contend.

Anyway that is my 2 cents.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

If he is on waivers for contract termination, I'd be more than happy to welcome here on a minimum contract for the rest of the year.


But yeah I wouldn't let him and Nuke room or hang out together on the road.

I haven't seen anything saying he's having his contract terminated. Thus, why waiving him seems so strange. Like Johnston said, I have a hard time seeing anyone claiminy him at that price.

I don't think he fits with the Avs either. Unless they can get him for RyJo, and 75% retention, I'd pass.

 

[Ararana]

If cMac learned a single god damn thing from the RyJo situation, he'll stay away the f*** away from Kuznetsov...

 

[JH21]

"By then" pretty well means the first year of his contract. I just don't understand why people want to put themselves into that corner. If you trade him you give yourselves a pretty good chance to have other kicks at the can. You don't need two superstars and arguably a third one on your team to win a cup. Look at other teams contending now or in the past. With Mack, Makar and some very good supporting cast that will balance the lineup a lot better the Avs can still be a very strong contender. You obviously need to NOT f**k up that trade. It doesn't need to happen at this TDL also. It can be this summer but IMO it needs to happen or we have this year and MAYBE next year at the most to contend.

Anyway that is my 2 cents.

So wait...we trade a superstar player and replace him with worse, cheaper players and we become better?

Yeah, ok.

 

[the_fan]

Really doubtful that the Avs will even think about picking up Kuznetsov

 

[JH21]

I haven't seen anything saying he's having his contract terminated. Thus, why waiving him seems so strange. Like Johnston said, I have a hard time seeing anyone claiminy him at that price.

I don't think he fits with the Avs either. Unless they can get him for RyJo, and 75% retention, I'd pass.

I wouldn't take Kuznetsov if Washington paid us for him.

Stay as far away as possible.

 

[Avsfan1921]

Why? He's no better than Johansen and is an absolute cancer in the locker room. Do you just want us to make a move for the sake of it?

No freaking thanks.

If it’s this or no other 2c option I’d try it.No way to tell how he’d do here, it’d be worth a shot imo. Not an ideal scenario for sure but better than not accomplishing anything by deadline.

 

[UncleRisto]

"By then" pretty well means the first year of his contract. I just don't understand why people want to put themselves into that corner. If you trade him you give yourselves a pretty good chance to have other kicks at the can. You don't need two superstars and arguably a third one on your team to win a cup. Look at other teams contending now or in the past. With Mack, Makar and some very good supporting cast that will balance the lineup a lot better the Avs can still be a very strong contender. You obviously need to NOT f**k up that trade. It doesn't need to happen at this TDL also. It can be this summer but IMO it needs to happen or we have this year and MAYBE next year at the most to contend.

Anyway that is my 2 cents.

Yeah, the problem I have with it is, as you say, f***ing up that trade. That's gonna happen almost no matter what, I think.

 

[Grigowski]

Bringing Kutznetsov in this AVS-Locker is like calling for apocalypse....

I really wonder what happened between Kuzy and the Caps.....I mean, he just came back from the assistance program...Amaright?

 

[dahrougem2]

If he wants a fresh start, he gets to go to the AHL or he should agree to terminate his contract. Nobody is trading for him.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

So wait...we trade a superstar player and replace him with worse, cheaper players and we become better?

Yeah, ok.

NJ traded for Meier, VAN traded for Lindholm, CGY traded for Huberdeau (yes he was the best player at the time) and Weager and they all got worst. There are other examples out there about teams getting top players at the TDL and getting worst. Trading the best player in a trade doesn't mean you always lose the trade. You might take a hit the first year but it is often for the best long term IF, and it is a big IF) you don't f**k up the trade.

 

[UncleRisto]

NJ traded for Meier, VAN traded for Lindholm, CGY traded for Huberdeau (yes he was the best player at the time) and Weager and they all got worst. There are other examples out there about teams getting top players at the TDL and getting worst. Trading the best player in a trade doesn't mean you always lose the trade. You might take a hit the first year but it is often for the best long term IF, and it is a big IF) you don't f**k up the trade.

Yeah, those players are not the same, though.

Either way, I think we're f***ed either way.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

Yeah, the problem I have with it is, as you say, f***ing up that trade. That's gonna happen almost no matter what, I think.

I trust our NHL scouts.

Yeah, those players are not the same, though.

Either way, I think we're f***ed either way.

They are examples of trading the best player in the trade. It is the same thing...in Mikko's case it just means the return is better.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Are people seriously wanting Kuznetsov?

 

[AllAboutAvs]

Are people seriously wanting Kuznetsov?

Definitely not me.

 

[UncleRisto]

It is the same thing...in Mikko's case it just means the return is better.

Mmm. See what I think it means is we won't be able to replace him.

But this conversation is what it is.

 

[JH21]

If it’s this or no other 2c option I’d try it.No way to tell how he’d do here, it’d be worth a shot imo. Not an ideal scenario for sure but better than not accomplishing anything by deadline.

No. Adding a guy like Kuznetsov who is a locker room cancer could actually make us worse.

Washington waived him for a reason.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]