Rumor: 23-24 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Part Trois: The Road to the Deadline

[Pokecheque]

So if we go after wennberg, will we be getting Daccord too?

Grubauer

 

[BobRossColton]

Grubauer

75% retention?

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

Avs social media person has a picture of an opened window downloaded and ready to post to Twitter.

Cmac has been working on something since November. It got derailed when they made the decision to cap dump on Ryjo.

It will be a bold move but it's something the team knows they've had to do for some time now. And a lot of you are not going to like what the Avs give up.

That or Cmac does nothing and I'm full of crap and making this all up.

 

[henchman21]

Well I do think that Conroy probably took some flak for not getting a 1st in that Tanev deal. They might really like the Russian former 2nd round pick prospect that they got but he seems like a pretty iffy add-in to me, though I don't know much about the kid. For the Flames to get that conditional 3rd round pick, the stars have to get to the finals - or else they get nothing, that's by no means a slam dunk. There's a real chance that they moved Tanev for a late 2nd rounder and a fringe prospect... that's not a great return.

Teams are really trying to hang on to their 1st round picks and don't want to give them up so if the Avs offer their 1st round pick in 2024 and a conditional 2026 1st round pick* (whereas if the Avs reach the final, they get the 1st and if they don't, they get a 2026 2nd) + another piece maybe of varying degree Malinski/Behrens/Myers/Foudy depending on who they like... that certainly wouldn't be a bad deal for UFA rental Hanifin - I think that would get it done and Calgary would take that and run. As we've seen with the trend, they'd retain 50% and the Avs could find another team to retain another 25% (that would probably cost a 3rd). So then Hanifin would come in at something ridiculous like $1.2375M with 75% retained from his $4.95M salary. Would the Avs even be willing to pay that kind of price ? Probably not.

Like I said, this only makes sense if the Avs have something else brewing that involves Byram or Girard going the other way so that they can acquire a #2C.

It doesn’t seem like teams are holding onto 24 1sts… I think 6 or 7 have (or will with conditionals) changed hands. With 2 more teams saying they are shopping it (Toronto and Edmonton). This early, it seems like teams are tossing them around quite easily. Which makes sense since this 1st round isn’t highly regarded.

 

[Foppa2118]

It was on the Marek Show... I recorded it on my phone but it's 26MB.

Friedman didn't say anything that he knows happened - he just said he's wondering about the Avs and if they'd be in on Hanifin.

Honest mistake, but I think we need to be careful about how we characterize some of these rumors.

Like Lebrun saying the Avs were "finalists" for Tanev, or Friedman "hearing" the Avs are dark horses for Hanifin, when both made it clear they didn't hear anything about the Avs, they were just spitballing.

Those are two very different things. Language matters in these circumstances.

 

[Pokecheque]

75% retention?

I wouldn't take him at 99% retention. I'm still absolutely steamed at him for his performance in that Vegas series.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Hanifin to Avs makes no sense at all. Another case of Friedman throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks

Makes plenty of sense if G or Byram are moved for a C with term.

 

[JLo217]

Seems like our priorities have shifted from…

- 2C
- Backup goalie
- Depth defenseman

…to…

- Top 6 forward
- Top 4/5 D
- Backup goalie

Avs might not like the centres available and prefer loading up on best player available which is likely a winger. On D, I guess not as sold on our current group and want somebody better. Manson or Girard becomes an expensive third pairing D at that point.

-Top 6... probably more like top 9 player 5 years ago
-Top 4/5 D... Used to be top 4/5 d on an expiring deal. Playing in Europe next year
-Backup goalie... 3rd stringer on a cup champ who used to be tough for the Avs to score on with a random rival.

 

[Pokecheque]

Makes plenty of sense if G or Byram are moved for a C with term.

It'd still be a very odd move given the nasty cap situation brewing next season. Once Toews' extension kicks in a top four D-man will likely have to be moved anyway, but either way they couldn't possibly afford to keep him.

 

[hockeyfish]

Makes plenty of sense if G or Byram are moved for a C with term.

Kind of, but seems to be a waste since someone who should be on the 2nd pairing will still get bumped to the 3rd. Going after Seeler makes more sense to me.

 

[the_fan]

Makes plenty of sense if G or Byram are moved for a C with term.

Won’t happen so it doesn’t make sense

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Of course not. Tiny fanbase.

 

[henchman21]

Say you move Byram plus future for a 2C. You made a hole at defense… which ideally needs filled. Finding a guy to cover that role makes sense. Could probably debate LD or RD. If you grab a LD, you make room for Malinski to have a partner to cover. If you go RD, you’re likely trying to pair up with G then have JMFJ with Manson. In that case, finding a rental wouldn’t be the worst thing. No salary commitment and position is still covered for the run.

Lots of ways to skin the cat.

 

[The Abusement Park]

It'd still be a very odd move given the nasty cap situation brewing next season. Once Toews' extension kicks in a top four D-man will likely have to be moved anyway, but either way they couldn't possibly afford to keep him.

If they’re using him as a rental and making a big push this year it’d make sense. Then in the off-season they’d just need to add a 3rd pairing dman really as G or Bo would still be there on the 2nd pair. It’d be aggressive and
I don’t think it’s what we’re doing but I could see the merit in getting him.

 

[RockLobster]

Say you move Byram plus future for a 2C. You made a hole at defense… which ideally needs filled. Finding a guy to cover that role makes sense. Could probably debate LD or RD. If you grab a LD, you make room for Malinski to have a partner to cover. If you go RD, you’re likely trying to pair up with G then have JMFJ with Manson. In that case, finding a rental wouldn’t be the worst thing. No salary commitment and position is still covered for the run.

Lots of ways to skin the cat.

Stop skinning cats

 

[avalanche_country]

Bye bye dermi

 

[BobRossColton]

That's our ahl'er for ahl'er....

 

[Bender]

Holy shit!! Zhakar Bardakov!!! Omgzzzz

He's a C !!!!!

 

[JLo217]

AJ hinting at something now

 

[Mighty Makar]

AJ hinting at something now

He’s an idiot.

 

[Avs9296]

Hopefully Macderp being moved is because CMac is trying to open up just that little bit more cap space he needs for another deal.

 

[Balthazar]

Henrique is at 5.825M

 

[The Abusement Park]

Hopefully Macderp being moved is because CMac is trying to open up just that little bit more cap space he needs for another deal.

I think it’s pretty clear that’s what’s happening.

 

[EdAVSfan]

Henrique is at 5.825M

Cap friendly show them at 2.2 million in space

Edit: with a 21 man roster.

 

[Ararana]

Wow I thought they'd have to pay to get MacDermid's 1 million off the books. They actually got assets for him.