Boston Bruins 22-‘23 Bruins roster and trade proposals discussions. VII

[BruinDust]

Hey stats nerds, what do we think of Nick Seeler from Flyers?

Dirt cheap. Signed through 2024. Adequate size. Blocks shots. Hits. His numbers this season appear to look very good for a defensive defenseman.

On the other side of the ledger, nearly zero pedigree and the shitty Flyers don't use him much on PK. Another left shot as well.

Depth target or statistical mirage?

Where would he even get a chance to get acclimated to the Bruins system? He's not cracking the Bruins Top 6 D-men.

That's the problem with bringing in depth D-men. Our current No. 7 (Zboril) has barely touched NHL ice in 3 months. Tossing guys into the fire come playoff time when they haven't had a chance to get adjusted to the Bruins system has been a disaster in previous years.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

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Now that Chara is gone does this guy have the longest stick in the NHL?

 

[bme44]

Where would he even get a chance to get acclimated to the Bruins system? He's not cracking the Bruins Top 6 D-men.

That's the problem with bringing in depth D-men. Our current No. 7 (Zboril) has barely touched NHL ice in 3 months. Tossing guys into the fire come playoff time when they haven't had a chance to get adjusted to the Bruins system has been a disaster in previous years.

This probably does not belong here,but if the Bruins are planing on keeping Zboril as the 7th D . For the playoffs. He needs to play at least a game a week for the rest of the season.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Heres my trade proposals:

Boston gets
Andrew peeke

Columbus gets
Matt grzcelyk
Frederic brunet

Boston gets bigger younger cheaper under longer deal on back end.

Columbus gets a vet and a prospect having a good year. (Boston saves close to 3M On cap for this year). Columbus does this trade because it gives them a replacement level player to peeke in grzcelyk with a long term more team controlled dman with high upside in brunet who will be a pro as grizz contract runs out.

Boston gets more size for a tough playoff series and a potential shut down pair with forbort or carlo. Also a long term bottom 4 lhd who can kill penalties and provide some offense as well.

Trade 2:
Boston gets jakub chychrun

Arizona gets
1st
Lohrei
C. Smith
Zboril


Boston solidifies itself as best d core for long and short term as the c depth long term is looking modest they decide to go all in this year and adopt the “center poor, d strong” approach that worked for nashville a decade ago as a long term plan. Trades a first a upside d in vaakananiens mold in zboril, the big lohrei dman who you dont need with 3 dmen now signed long term from the left side and all resignable.


Trade 3

Boston gets pat kane (50% retained)
2nd


Chi gets jake debrusk
2nd

Pick swaps benefit boston as debrusks contract situation is better than kanes and chicago can grow with him on the wing as he fits the age to be apart of their long term plan. Also brings some playoff experience for what will be a young team once toews and kane leave.

Boston now a juggernaut for this season and defense is locked in for the next half decade.

Seems like a perfect move for the best defense in the NHL and a full out Cup contender to make. You’re playing chess while the rest of us are playing Candy Crush.

 

[PastaBaked]

Hard to imagine the Bruins being able to outbid Toronto for Chychrun as their need in D is a good deal higher (and the perception of the fans that he'd be automatically their best defence-first D-man) and they have better tradeable assets.
I'd settle for Toews for the equivalent of a 2nd rounder and Acciari for a 3rd.
That would help remake the 4th line into something a little more dynamic for the playoffs and avoid having to play Nosek (who is an offensive black hole for all his defensive attributes).

4th line: Foligno/Toews/Acciari

I think this would really put us over the top without giving up high value assets and also avoid touching the defence.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

The CBJ trade is terrible with a capital T. Peeke is decent but nothing special. Gryz is better by himself. Giving up Brunet is just... something you don't do. It is not based on much, but I have a very, very good feeling about this kid. I will say he profiles better than any non-first round defenseman who has ever played for the Bruins. With apologies to our current GM, and Mike Oconnell (third round Hawks), I get the feeling Brunet will have a pretty high ceiling.

Sorry can't get on board regarding Brunet being that good. Mike O'Connell literally played in an All Star game. Hope you're right but its a long shot. Now
if you including NCAA FA signed?
Because that includes Krug

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Sorry can't get on board regarding Brunet being that good. Mike O'Connell literally played in an All Star game. Hope you're right but its a long shot. Now
if you including NCAA FA signed?
Because that includes Krug

Or Brandon Carlo or Matt Grzelcyk

 

[quietbruinfan]

Sorry can't get on board regarding Brunet being that good. Mike O'Connell literally played in an All Star game. Hope you're right but its a long shot. Now
if you including NCAA FA signed?
Because that includes Krug

OC did have a good stretch after removing his helmet, but often outsmated himself. I do not think the ceiling is that high. Norm Barnes played in an All-star too....does not mean much.

 

[BruinDust]

This probably does not belong here,but if the Bruins are planing on keeping Zboril as the 7th D . For the playoffs. He needs to play at least a game a week for the rest of the season.

He definitely needs to get some NHL games in soon if they want him as a viable playoff option.

 

[mjhfb]

OC did have a good stretch after removing his helmet, but often outsmated himself. I do not think the ceiling is that high. Norm Barnes played in an All-star too....does not mean much.

Zemgus Girgensons

 

[quietbruinfan]

Or Brandon Carlo or Matt Grzelcyk

Not a Carlo fan...find him very ordinary. Grzelcyk....it will take a while, but I think Brunet will be better.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Not a Carlo fan...find him very ordinary. Grzelchk....it will take a while, but I think Brunet will be better.

Unbelievable. Seriously.

 

[quietbruinfan]

Unbelievable. Seriously.

Yes seriously Mr. analytics two, seriously.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

OC did have a good stretch after removing his helmet, but often outsmated himself. I do not think the ceiling is that high. Norm Barnes played in an All-star too....does not mean much.

O'Connell had back to back really good years in 1982-83 and 1983-84.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

This thread sucks!

Be back later

 

[shelbysdad]

Heres my trade proposals:

Boston gets
Andrew peeke

Columbus gets
Matt grzcelyk
Frederic brunet

Boston gets bigger younger cheaper under longer deal on back end.

Columbus gets a vet and a prospect having a good year. (Boston saves close to 3M On cap for this year). Columbus does this trade because it gives them a replacement level player to peeke in grzcelyk with a long term more team controlled dman with high upside in brunet who will be a pro as grizz contract runs out.

Boston gets more size for a tough playoff series and a potential shut down pair with forbort or carlo. Also a long term bottom 4 lhd who can kill penalties and provide some offense as well.

Trade 2:
Boston gets jakub chychrun

Arizona gets
1st
Lohrei
C. Smith
Zboril


Boston solidifies itself as best d core for long and short term as the c depth long term is looking modest they decide to go all in this year and adopt the “center poor, d strong” approach that worked for nashville a decade ago as a long term plan. Trades a first a upside d in vaakananiens mold in zboril, the big lohrei dman who you dont need with 3 dmen now signed long term from the left side and all resignable.


Trade 3

Boston gets pat kane (50% retained)
2nd


Chi gets jake debrusk
2nd

Pick swaps benefit boston as debrusks contract situation is better than kanes and chicago can grow with him on the wing as he fits the age to be apart of their long term plan. Also brings some playoff experience for what will be a young team once toews and kane leave.

Boston now a juggernaut for this season and defense is locked in for the next half decade.

So we can put Kane of LTIR when he has his surgery..........

 

[Shroud of Orrin]

It's becoming more clear that the Pred's are going to miss the post season. They're 4pts out of the WC and have to compete with the Avs and Oilers for that spot. They're not getting in.

Can we renew the Ekholm discussion? That's a guy who would make a huge difference.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

It's becoming more clear that the Pred's are going to miss the post season. They're 4pts out of the WC and have to compete with the Avs and Oilers for that spot. They're not getting in.

Can we renew the Ekholm discussion? That's a guy who would make a huge difference.

$6.25M for three years after this one should pretty much end said discussion. Can't spend $26M+ on just your top 4.

 

[shelbysdad]

OC did have a good stretch after removing his helmet, but often outsmated himself. I do not think the ceiling is that high. Norm Barnes played in an All-star too....does not mean much.

Wow....Norm Barnes flashback.....I saw him play when I was a kid for Binghamton (if it's the same guy)

 

[Hookslide]

Trade Gryz for Looch. Cap almost fits perfectly. He fights hits skates and can score goals with Krejci. Get it done. Wont cost much more than gryz. Maybe Gryz and a third?

I do not believe in censorship , but that post has me rethinking my position..........

 

[KillerMillerTime]

It's becoming more clear that the Pred's are going to miss the post season. They're 4pts out of the WC and have to compete with the Avs and Oilers for that spot. They're not getting in.

Can we renew the Ekholm discussion? That's a guy who would make a huge difference.

If Nashville is say 8 points out 7 days before deadline, yeah they sell but if they remain 4?

If they sell it starts with '23#1, Lohrei + who?

 

[quietbruinfan]

Wow....Norm Barnes flashback.....I saw him play when I was a kid for Binghamton (if it's the same guy)

Same guy...ginger

Wow....Norm Barnes flashback.....I saw him play when I was a kid for Binghamton (if it's the same guy)

Edit same guy. OC unlike some other did earn it, I will give him that.

 

[Kegs]

Pretty sure it was reported that the Yotes asking price was 2 first rounders, plus a prospect.

Lohrei and a first is the equivalent of two firsts. Easily.

If Bruins are involved it's costing Lohrei no matter what else is in there.One thing I learned is 99% of time a team trades away a key D man they get back a young one as part of that deal.I can't see Bruins paying it all honestly but we shall see.

I honestly think they want younger prospects. Under 21

Hard to imagine the Bruins being able to outbid Toronto for Chychrun as their need in D is a good deal higher (and the perception of the fans that he'd be automatically their best defence-first D-man) and they have better tradeable assets.
I'd settle for Toews for the equivalent of a 2nd rounder and Acciari for a 3rd.
That would help remake the 4th line into something a little more dynamic for the playoffs and avoid having to play Nosek (who is an offensive black hole for all his defensive attributes).

4th line: Foligno/Toews/Acciari

I think this would really put us over the top without giving up high value assets and also avoid touching the defence.

how Do u figure Toronto has more tradable assets? Care to elaborate?

 

[Hookslide]

If pasta isn’t signed soon get both Kane and toews, pay whatever you need to for get another team to take another 25 pct off. You have to be ALL in at that point

63-37-74
18-46-88
71-13-Kane
11-Toews-17

Kane and Toews are not the players that beat the Bruins in the SC finals ............move on ..........I am pushing for Chycrun and Crouse younger and good contracts . I know how are you going to be under the cap , well they will cost but move picks and prospects and cap dumps ..............

 

[HustleB]

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Seems like a perfect move for the best defense in the NHL and a full out Cup contender to make. You’re playing chess while the rest of us are playing Candy Crush.

I need help understanding if these stats represent percentile rank vs role or if the percentiles and roles are independent of one another. I ask because a poor top 4 still seems to be ranked ahead of a top-depth D.