Boston Bruins 22-‘23 Bruins roster and trade proposals discussions. VII

[Blowfish]

Lysell could be a pasta hes off limits I bet.

He also MAY NOT BE ...

What Lysell could be is an important part of a great trade giving the bruins a cup win with Krejci/Bergeron in the line up and depending on the return a solid addition moving forward.

 

[xjoeyc23x]

In - Toews @ 75% retained, Chychrun = 2.625M + 4.6M = 7,225,000M coming in
Out - Smith, 1st, Lohrei, Beecher, Lauko, Grizz = 3.1M + 3,687,500 = 6,787,500 going out

This equals to the bruins paying just 437,500 more.

Imagine

Chychrun - Mcavoy
Lindholm - Clifton
Forbort - Carlo

WOW

 

[Baddkarma]

Once DeBrusk comes back, Smith drops down to fourth line or worse. And where is there a "punishing" defenseman who is as good at playing hockey as the B's' top six? Who wouldn't blow up the salary structure and cost a big chunk of the team's future? I say no, unless a key defenseman goes down for the rest of the season. (They need to get Zboril some ice time soon, BTW.)

So Schenn fits that description.

A guy who going stay in his lane, play extremely physical, and be a guy who makes the opposition pay a price to retrieve the puck and play low/on the wall over seven games. Not saying its perfect, but its an element that the Bruins, who get beat up (not fighting) and broken down over a heavy series, need to add to their roster IMHO.

On the forward front...

Domi
Bonino
Acciari
JVR

Wishful thinking Meier but the cost and his contract would not work with Pasta's...

 

[Troublesome 85]

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[rocketdan9]

He also MAY NOT BE ...

What Lysell could be is an important part of a great trade giving the bruins a cup win with Krejci/Bergeron in the line up and depending on the return a solid addition moving forward.

Agreed. For Horvat or Larkin (signed)... example. I would give up Lysell.

Not for a trade for a rental like Kane.

 

[neelynugs]

Lafferty isn’t worth Beecher. He worth a 5th at best.

lafferty looks like a better version of lazar. he'd be a nice fit on the 4th line if they are going low-end add.
but the price tag is probably not worth it, chicago will get at least a 3rd for him i would guess.

 

[Kegs]

Well that’s the general issue we have with the defense - and yes I am devils advocating - but to me that would be the play should they acquire Chychrun. Take the hit on the PK and play Chychrun there with Carlo. Arizona’s recent trade history and their public demands indicate there’s no way they want an older player with term in return so unless Grizz is moved in another deal, that would be the lineup.

You’d probably be looking at 1st, Lohrei, and Lysell for him and to me that’s way too much for an upgrade on Grizz.

Woah. I doubt they give up lohrei and lysell and a first. I really really doubt it. Probably the the first. But not the two best prospects in the system. If anything a couple of younger prospects that are further away from being in the nhl

lafferty looks like a better version of lazar. he'd be a nice fit on the 4th line if they are going low-end add.
but the price tag is probably not worth it, chicago will get at least a 3rd for him i would guess.

5th round pick is my final offer. He also costs over a million dollars. So they would have to move a roster player no?

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

because staff here truly believe that faceoff win percentage is an advanced stat, this discussion has an increased likelihood of getting sent to thread jail. if Nosek needs an extended break from faceoffs, Toews becomes an even more attractive target. what does it take to acquire him? beyond that, I guess we need to take all Toews talk to the advanced stats thread.

Acquiring Toews could be like Pens acquiring Bryan Trottier in 1991.

 

[DominicT]

@DominicT I notice lately I've been having lower back pain when I wake up in the morning. Should I be doing more stretching and drinking more water?

I'll hang up and listen thanks.

I suppose everyone reacts differently. For me water and stretching doesn't work but beer and sex does wonders.

I can only suggest trying different things until you find what works for you.

 

[BruinsJoe]

In - Toews @ 75% retained, Chychrun = 2.625M + 4.6M = 7,225,000M coming in
Out - Smith, 1st, Lohrei, Beecher, Lauko, Grizz = 3.1M + 3,687,500 = 6,787,500 going out

This equals to the bruins paying just 437,500 more.

Imagine

Chychrun - Mcavoy
Lindholm - Clifton
Forbort - Carlo

WOW

75% retain% you cannot go over 50%...

 

[JoeIsAStud]

75% retain% you cannot go over 50%...

Well you can if there 2 teams retaining.

 

[Hookslide]

If you can get Chrychrun and Crouse from Arizona and make it work cap wise I dont care what you give up in picks and prospects to make it happen.

You are so right when you get two young player under contract , and are already developed you are not waiting to see if you hit on your draft , the hell with the picks and I am not one that believes in throwing picks around . lets get it done now today this minute......... Crouse would be awesome in Boston.........ahhhhhhhhhh too dream.

 

[dugg133]

I've been thinking, and maybe this is a reach, but do you think our heavy interest in Chychrun could mean Sweeney already has some sort of verbal confirmation that Bergeron will be back beyond this year? Cause paying a premium on top of a premium for Chychrun cause he has term on his contract doesn't make much sense to me unless there's a guarantee that we have an actual top line center for at least next year. And if not, they can't give up those types of assets imo, LHD is not a current weakness or a future one with Lohrei in the system. There are bigger holes to fill.

 

[Hookslide]

Bill Armstrong will hang up the phone on that offer. He wants lysell to begin the conservation and donny will end the conversation. The end.

I agree and he should be , and Crouse should be included in the conversation.............make it a blockbuster with picks, prospects, and cap dumps............do it two young player already NHL ready do it damm it, make it happen.......

 

[rocketdan9]

because staff here truly believe that faceoff win percentage is an advanced stat, this discussion has an increased likelihood of getting sent to thread jail. if Nosek needs an extended break from faceoffs, Toews becomes an even more attractive target. what does it take to acquire him? beyond that, I guess we need to take all Toews talk to the advanced stats thread.

Imo Blackhawks want a 1st and 2nd tier prospect for Toews. But end up getting a 2nd or 3rd/5th plus prospect (example Kuntar)

The potential issue is...has he noticeably lost a step ala Eric Staal. Or is he playing but hibernating.... and has another gear for the playoffs

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I agree and he should be , and Crouse should be included in the conversation.............make it a blockbuster with picks, prospects, and cap dumps............do it two young player already NHL ready do it damm it, make it happen.......

Show your work on how we’re getting almost $9M in cap onto this team. This year and next.

There’s no way we can add a $4.3M wing to this roster.

 

[Hookslide]

I look forward to them throwing out a massive package for him and he gets put on IR a week or so later after yet another season ending surgery

That is so cold..............ouch

Lysell could be a pasta hes off limits I bet.

 

[xjoeyc23x]

75% retain% you cannot go over 50%...

Yes, but Chicago can retain 50% in a trade to AZ. AZ can then retain another 50% of the remaining contract when moving him to Boston. Which, if my math is correct, would equal 75%.

And yes, my math is correct.

 

[Gee Wally]

The real ? with Chychurn is Arizona. They didn't deal him last year when there was all kinds of offers and smoke - who's to say they'll let him go this year.

Hell, who's to say what the hell they're doing down there at all.

With the deal Chychrun is on I feel like his value is always gonna be higher today rather than tomorrow. Getting 2 and a half seasons with him at 4.6 has to hold more value than getting 1 and a half I would think.

Part of the draw with Chychrun isn't just how good he is, by also the sweetheart deal with term he is on.

I do think they move him this year. True his AAV is great for a player his capabilities.

But I think the last 2 years of balloon payments , back loaded contract, may be unpalatable for the Yotes. Just my opinion.

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[HustleB]

Everyone on this board (it seems)has been saying no way, but let's look at this a little closer. And yeah I'm gonna give you some of that sweet Chycrun.

The ask:

Who is Jakob Chycrun?

According to NHL.com:

Hockey runs in Chychrun's family. His father, Jeff Chychrun, was a defenseman who played 262 NHL games for five teams from 1986-87 through 1993-94, and his uncle, Luke Richardson, also a defenseman, played 1,417 NHL games from 1987-88 through 2008-09.
Jakob Chychrun is also a defenseman, albeit with more offensive skills than his dad or uncle. He's an excellent skater with a big shot and a high hockey IQ and should only get better as he matures. He's got good size at 6'2", 220 lbs.

He missed the first two months of the 2017-18 season after offseason knee surgery but returned Dec. 3 and scored a goal in his first game back, a 3-2 loss to the Vegas Golden Knights. Chychrun had surgery to repair a torn ACL that delayed the start to his 2018-19 season until Nov. 13. One hour before his first game, he signed a six-year contract and finished the season with 20 points (five goals, 15 assists) in 53 games.

According to Emily Kaplan of ESPN, the Coyotes have set an asking price higher than what the Anaheim Ducks landed ahead of the 2022 NHL trade deadline for Hampus Lindholm. In that blockbuster deal, Anaheim received the Boston Bruins’ 2022 first-round pick, second-round picks in 2023 and 2024 along with John Moore and Urho Vaakanainen.

The Bruins landed Hampus without giving up a roster player. Essentially 3 picks, a bad contract and a mid level (Uhro) prospect. Can this be done with Chycrun? He is younger than Lindholm. Have to think the Yotes would want the 1st round pick, Lohrei as a start. Lohrei is still an unproven commodity at the NHL level but he has size and skill, he's a good prospect. The Ducks took John Moore, would the Yotes take Craig Smith? Chycrun has a concerning injury history including the torn ACL in 2018. He's never played more than 63 games in a season since his rookie year. Hampus seems more durable. The Bruins would have Jakob for 2 more years guaranteed at $4.6 million. He's 24 years old. It's a nice contract. Hampus signed for multiple years in Boston. How far would Sweeney go here? If one defenseman gets hurt, he's still got 2 studs left. The Bruins defense would be dynamic with this guy. Heavy f***** shot.

Would the Yotes do the 1st+Lohrei+Smith+Lauko as one possibility? Chycrun wants out of Arizona, he has stated that publicly, would the Yotes accomodate? Seems like they gotta move him. What if he told the Yotes that he wants to go to the Bruins? Gryz? I'm not a fan of small defensemen but would worry about disrupting team chemistry by trading him. Skeptical that Gryz can hold up injury wise in the playoffs. If Chycrun is healthy? Wow..... Maybe they sign him in 2 years when the cap is higher?

Swap out Lauko for a much bigger chip. Harrison maybe. Another first or Lysell is what I think it really takes.

 

[Mione134]

Still better than reading lucic back to Boston proposals.

This fight happened 13 days ago and I'd still take Looch back on the team. AND I DONT CARE WHO KNOWS IT!

 

[Blowfish]

This fight happened 13 days ago and I'd still take Looch back on the team. AND I DONT CARE WHO KNOWS IT!

Yertle agrees with you.

 

[Mione134]

Yertle agrees with you.

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[Blowfish]

"‘Hooray! shouted Yertle. ‘I’m king of the trees! I’m king of the birds! And I’m king of the bees! I’m king of the butterflies! King of the air! Ah, me! What a throne! What a wonderful chair! I’m Yertle the Turtle! Oh, marvelous me! For I am the ruler of all that I see!’ ”

Yah to political..Go with Myrtle instead.

 

[rocketdan9]

How about (to obtain Laff and Chychrun)

1. To Preds: Grz
To Bruins: Lafferty, Trenin, Lauzon
To Blackhawks: 2023 3rd round pick, Keyser

2. To Vegas: Nosek
To Bruins: 2023 3rd round pick (vegas)

3. To Arizona: Reilly, Smith, Mclaughlin, Lysell, 2023 1st
To Bruins: Chychrun, 2023 3rd round pick (Capitals)

Lineup
Marchand Bergeron Debrusk
Zacha Krejci Pasta
Hall Coyle Frederic
Foligno Lafferty Greer
Trenin Lauko

Lindholm McAvoy
Chychrun Carlo
Forbort Clifton
Lauzon Zboril

Ullmark
Swayman