Boston Bruins 22-‘23 Bruins roster and trade proposals discussions. VII

[Kegs]

Gryz + 1st + Lohrei for Chychrun and then the Yotes can do what we can't and give Gryz 1st PP time (pump up his value, then flip next year at TDL.





LNDHOLM-McAVOY
CHYCH-CARLO
FORBORT-CLIFTON

I feel like that doesn’t work. Because the salary cap. I think gryz makes less than chychurn.

 

[bruinmann77]

Well looks like this will be the next rumor for a while

 

[Mione134]

Well looks like this will be the next rumor for a while

It's only going to get worse.

 

[22Brad Park]

I feel like that doesn’t work. Because the salary cap. I think gryz makes less than chychurn.

Grizz 3.67 Chychrun 4.6

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Well looks like this will be the next rumor for a while

Yeah but this time in here for it. Gimme some of dat sweet Chychrun

 

[The Storm]

Yeah but this time in here for it. Gimme some of dat sweet Chychrun

Everyone on this board (it seems)has been saying no way, but let's look at this a little closer. And yeah I'm gonna give you some of that sweet Chycrun.

The ask:

Who is Jakob Chycrun?

According to NHL.com:

Hockey runs in Chychrun's family. His father, Jeff Chychrun, was a defenseman who played 262 NHL games for five teams from 1986-87 through 1993-94, and his uncle, Luke Richardson, also a defenseman, played 1,417 NHL games from 1987-88 through 2008-09.
Jakob Chychrun is also a defenseman, albeit with more offensive skills than his dad or uncle. He's an excellent skater with a big shot and a high hockey IQ and should only get better as he matures. He's got good size at 6'2", 220 lbs.

He missed the first two months of the 2017-18 season after offseason knee surgery but returned Dec. 3 and scored a goal in his first game back, a 3-2 loss to the Vegas Golden Knights. Chychrun had surgery to repair a torn ACL that delayed the start to his 2018-19 season until Nov. 13. One hour before his first game, he signed a six-year contract and finished the season with 20 points (five goals, 15 assists) in 53 games.

According to Emily Kaplan of ESPN, the Coyotes have set an asking price higher than what the Anaheim Ducks landed ahead of the 2022 NHL trade deadline for Hampus Lindholm. In that blockbuster deal, Anaheim received the Boston Bruins’ 2022 first-round pick, second-round picks in 2023 and 2024 along with John Moore and Urho Vaakanainen.

The Bruins landed Hampus without giving up a roster player. Essentially 3 picks, a bad contract and a mid level (Uhro) prospect. Can this be done with Chycrun? He is younger than Lindholm. Have to think the Yotes would want the 1st round pick, Lohrei as a start. Lohrei is still an unproven commodity at the NHL level but he has size and skill, he's a good prospect. The Ducks took John Moore, would the Yotes take Craig Smith? Chycrun has a concerning injury history including the torn ACL in 2018. He's never played more than 63 games in a season since his rookie year. Hampus seems more durable. The Bruins would have Jakob for 2 more years guaranteed at $4.6 million. He's 24 years old. It's a nice contract. Hampus signed for multiple years in Boston. How far would Sweeney go here? If one defenseman gets hurt, he's still got 2 studs left. The Bruins defense would be dynamic with this guy. Heavy f***** shot.

Would the Yotes do the 1st+Lohrei+Smith+Lauko as one possibility? Chycrun wants out of Arizona, he has stated that publicly, would the Yotes accomodate? Seems like they gotta move him. What if he told the Yotes that he wants to go to the Bruins? Gryz? I'm not a fan of small defensemen but would worry about disrupting team chemistry by trading him. Skeptical that Gryz can hold up injury wise in the playoffs. If Chycrun is healthy? Wow..... Maybe they sign him in 2 years when the cap is higher?

 

[Caper Bruins fan]

Gryz + 1st + Lohrei for Chychrun and then the Yotes can do what we can't and give Gryz 1st PP time (pump up his value, then flip next year at TDL.





LNDHOLM-McAVOY
CHYCH-CARLO
FORBORT-CLIFTON

Get the duck boats ready ?

 

[Baddkarma]

I really like the idea of JChyc, but he seems redundant as the D corp stands now.

MacAvoy and Lindholm can run the offense along with Gryzzy.

Carlo, Forbort, and Clifton are supposed to shut down the opposition.

I would like to see a rugged, punishing (over 7 games) body mover or two to shore this group up.

The Bruins need to replace Smith in the top 9, to me that is the bigger hole and depth issue...

 

[Gifu]

@Dom do you have any info regarding those rumors and speculations about Chychrun and Boston? (the kind you can tell) Is Boston serious about going after him or is it some kind of tire kicking or nothing at all?

I was just thinking that a year ago - before they acquired Lindholm, there was a lot of speculation in the media that Boston might be interested in Chychrun - until they acquired Lindholm.

 

[whitetape]

I really like the idea of JChyc, but he seems redundant as the D corp stands now.

MacAvoy and Lindholm can run the offense along with Gryzzy.

Carlo, Forbort, and Clifton are supposed to shut down the opposition.

I would like to see a rugged, punishing (over 7 games) body mover or two to shore this group up.

The Bruins need to replace Smith in the top 9, to me that is the bigger hole and depth issue...

Once DeBrusk comes back, Smith drops down to fourth line or worse. And where is there a "punishing" defenseman who is as good at playing hockey as the B's' top six? Who wouldn't blow up the salary structure and cost a big chunk of the team's future? I say no, unless a key defenseman goes down for the rest of the season. (They need to get Zboril some ice time soon, BTW.)

 

[Dizzay]

Adding Chychrun would be sick, but I'm not sure who they're moving as part of the package or a separate deal, meaning Gryz or Forbort or Reilly. If it's Reilly, you're likely giving up 1st + Lysell +Beacher +??? just to attach him and his extra year. You then likely have to trade one of Forbort or Gryz in the off season as well. A top 4 of Lindholm-McAvoy and Chychrun-Carlo is absolutely filthy, as someone above alluded to. Not sure we need him though if that's the going price.

I really want Toewes here as our 4C.
Tarasenko as 3RW
I think our D is fine.

Marchy-Bergy-Debrusk
Zacha-Krejci-Pasta
Hall-Coyle-Tarasenko
Foligno-Toewes-Frederic
Nosek/Lauko

Out in some sort of deals are Reilly, Smith, 1st 2024, Kinkaid, Steen, 3rd rounder 2023, Ahcan

 

[The don godfather]

Get the duck boats ready ?

Bill Armstrong will hang up the phone on that offer. He wants lysell to begin the conservation and donny will end the conversation. The end.

 

[LouJersey]

Good news - Pagnotta is a legit insider

Bad news- agree with Wally its speculation, not a bona fide insider scope ( at least not yet)

Still - it is interesting and adds weight to the school of thought that DS will be going big

Dom had Hall and Lindholm as targets, so he's the only guy to go by as far as I'm concerned. You have all these national guys and nobody had Horvat to the Isles as even a rumor.

Bill Armstrong will hang up the phone on that offer. He wants lysell to begin the conservation and donny will end the conversation. The end.

Is this slapstick? Sweeney would gladly include Lysell for a top pair defenseman on a sweetheart contract.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

I am with you. Lafferty is a very speedy checking center with a little grit. Pittsburgh made a mistake trading him.

Lafferty is about as good as you're going to get for a true contributing 4th line C on a Cup contender, meaning he shouldn't cost you much.
Maybe Lafferty for Beecher and a 4th?

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Is it taking a flyer if the player’s defensive and transition game is elite?

If we can get Puljujarvi for cheap that is a move we absolutely need to make. In his current form we have another guy who just freaking dominates possession. If he hits his ceiling we have a 6’4 210 pound winger who plays an elite two way game. At his worst he is who he is now, which is a 20-30 point defensively elite forward.

Took a flyer on Zacha and that turned out well!!!

 

[shoulders7]

It's only going to get worse.

Still better than reading lucic back to Boston proposals.

 

[Blowfish]

Lafferty is about as good as you're going to get for a true contributing 4th line C on a Cup contender, meaning he shouldn't cost you much.
Maybe Lafferty for Beecher and a 4th?

Lafferty...hmmm fits the need for center depth, SPEED, PHYSICALITY...CHEAP.

At the cost of $1.15 million for this season and next, Lafferty is drawing attention. Saying he offers speed, physicality, and penalty-killing ability, Frank Seravalli writes in a recent deep dive look at the forward:

Lafferty brings elements that a savvy, complete and veteran team could use on their fourth line. He isn’t perfect, lacking sense and his motor wanes during stretches, but the second year always seems to entice certain teams giving them cost certainty heading into the offseason. His contract coupled with his raw physical ability might make a team eager to try to pull a complete game out of him while harnessing what he already does well.

What Teams Are Looking at Lafferty?
THW’s own Connor Smith suggested the Toronto Maple Leafs, Minnesota Wild, and New York Rangers might be a fit. Those are all solid, logical choices. Seravalli includes the Maple Leafs in his list as well, but also adds the Tampa Bay Lightning, Edmonton Oilers, and Boston Bruins to that list. Why Seravalli’s list is so intriguing is because all four of these teams are and/or were considered Stanley Cup chasers with a unique window to go for it now.
When looking at which of these four contending teams might make a push to acquire Lafferty, cap space and need should be heavily factored into this. Of the four teams mentioned, Boston has the most cap space, followed by Toronto. For the Oilers and Lightning, every move needs to be made with precision and with the likelihood another player must go back to the Blackhawks in exchange. It’s known the Blackhawks are willing to take on other teams’ contracts for a sweetener, but it’s not clear how open the Blackhawks are to retaining salary on Lafferty if another team can make the deal without retention required.

 

[quietbruinfan]

Lafferty is about as good as you're going to get for a true contributing 4th line C on a Cup contender, meaning he shouldn't cost you much.
Maybe Lafferty for Beecher and a 4th?

It will take something like that maybe a third.

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

Chychrun was my guy in that 2016 draft. Crazy to think that the Bruins could end up with Chychrun and McAvoy.

...and Hall....

Bruins year for Draft redemption arcs?

 

[TCB]

Good news - Pagnotta is a legit insider

Bad news- agree with Wally its speculation, not a bona fide insider scope ( at least not yet)

Still - it is interesting and adds weight to the school of thought that DS will be going big

Add to that Pagnotta did say "We know Boston has been poking around on Chychurn for the last little while going back to really last off-season". So where's there's smoke there's fire and he would be a whole lot easier to fit Cap wise than some of the big name forwards who are out there. Just depends on the price, like everything else, and of course the Bruins Im sure aren't the only team talking to the yotes about Chychurn

 

[BruinDust]

Lafferty is about as good as you're going to get for a true contributing 4th line C on a Cup contender, meaning he shouldn't cost you much.
Maybe Lafferty for Beecher and a 4th?

Lafferty is getting nearly 15 mins. a night in Chicago. He's not getting that here. He's got zero playoff experience.

Why in the world would you want to replace Nosek with Lafferty? Nosek is more experienced, is a better at face-offs, is a superior defensive player.

As a depth piece, fine. I wouldn't cough up Beecher or a high pick for him.

 

[Over the volcano]

Add to that Pagnotta did say "We know Boston has been poking around on Chychurn for the last little while going back to really last off-season". So where's there's smoke there's fire and he would be a whole lot easier to fit Cap wise than some of the big name forwards who are out there. Just depends on the price, like everything else, and of course the Bruins Im sure aren't the only team talking to the yotes about Chychurn

The real ? with Chychurn is Arizona. They didn't deal him last year when there was all kinds of offers and smoke - who's to say they'll let him go this year.

Hell, who's to say what the hell they're doing down there at all.

 

[TCB]

The real ? with Chychurn is Arizona. They didn't deal him last year when there was all kinds of offers and smoke - who's to say they'll let him go this year.

Hell, who's to say what the hell they're doing down there at all.

True. Know one really knows as is the case with all rumors until they actually come to fruition, but the speculation is there and it would be O' so sweet if he wore a spoked B

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Lafferty is getting nearly 15 mins. a night in Chicago. He's not getting that here. He's got zero playoff experience.

Why in the world would you want to replace Nosek with Lafferty? Nosek is more experienced, is a better at face-offs, is a superior defensive player.

As a depth piece, fine. I wouldn't cough up Beecher or a high pick for him.

Beecher straight up won't do it. We value Lafferty differently so we won't agree.

 

[BlackFrancis]

Lafferty...hmmm fits the need for center depth, SPEED, PHYSICALITY...CHEAP.

At the cost of $1.15 million for this season and next, Lafferty is drawing attention. Saying he offers speed, physicality, and penalty-killing ability, Frank Seravalli writes in a recent deep dive look at the forward:

Lafferty brings elements that a savvy, complete and veteran team could use on their fourth line. He isn’t perfect, lacking sense and his motor wanes during stretches, but the second year always seems to entice certain teams giving them cost certainty heading into the offseason. His contract coupled with his raw physical ability might make a team eager to try to pull a complete game out of him while harnessing what he already does well.

What Teams Are Looking at Lafferty?
THW’s own Connor Smith suggested the Toronto Maple Leafs, Minnesota Wild, and New York Rangers might be a fit. Those are all solid, logical choices. Seravalli includes the Maple Leafs in his list as well, but also adds the Tampa Bay Lightning, Edmonton Oilers, and Boston Bruins to that list. Why Seravalli’s list is so intriguing is because all four of these teams are and/or were considered Stanley Cup chasers with a unique window to go for it now.
When looking at which of these four contending teams might make a push to acquire Lafferty, cap space and need should be heavily factored into this. Of the four teams mentioned, Boston has the most cap space, followed by Toronto. For the Oilers and Lightning, every move needs to be made with precision and with the likelihood another player must go back to the Blackhawks in exchange. It’s known the Blackhawks are willing to take on other teams’ contracts for a sweetener, but it’s not clear how open the Blackhawks are to retaining salary on Lafferty if another team can make the deal without retention required.

Not sure they'll be in the market for yet another right shot center.