21/22 Roster Speculation Thread Part VIII
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neelynugs
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what's the ask on a guy like pysyk? 3rd rounder or mid-range prospect? he'd be a nice add to
our 3rd pairing (but bruins have bigger holes to worry about even before that)
Fjordsen
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1st + Lysell
Boston owe us after the deal with Hall, it was a scam.Seriously though, I hope Adams re-signs Pysyk, he was our best RD this season. Adams is rumored to be looking 1st for Miller but is unlikely to get one so I don't know why he didn't ask for at least 2nd for Pysyk.
Looking at the top of the NHL standings and the common denominator among the D corps of the league's top teams is that they all tend to have at least one elite D-man. They don't necessarily have an elite top pairing though or a balance of 3 right shot players and 3 left shot players on their pairings. The key for us is going to be the continued development of Dahlin and the arrival of Power. If those two players turn into the players they are projected to be, that will make up for short-comings on our right side.
Also, it always seems a bit weird to me that, in general terms, we simultaneously think a player like Miller is bad while hoping/thinking he can return a 2nd or maybe even a 1st from a team that has hopes of winning the Cup. If Miller is bad or below average then why are good teams looking to obtain him to help with a Cup run? It's similar to Montour who, again generally, Sabres fans could not wait to dump and yet he is good enough to play for a team that is a leading cup contender.
Also, it always seems a bit weird to me that, in general terms, we simultaneously think a player like Miller is bad while hoping/thinking he can return a 2nd or maybe even a 1st from a team that has hopes of winning the Cup. If Miller is bad or below average then why are good teams looking to obtain him to help with a Cup run? It's similar to Montour who, again generally, Sabres fans could not wait to dump and yet he is good enough to play for a team that is a leading cup contender.
If Miller is the third pairing right defenseman on a contender like he was with Vegas, it’s good. When he is relied on to be more than that, he struggles.
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Montour plays #5 D in Florida, he can definitely be good in that role. 1st for Miller seems like a pipe dream, especially when he's still injured. 2nd would make sense. Miller was solid offensively this season and has playoff experience.
We absolutely need to find a good and responsible RD to play Dahlin, preferably with 20+ minutes of NHL experience.
Makar has Toews
Ekblad has Weegar
Reilly has Brodie
Fox has Lindgren
Drysdale has Lindholm
Hamilton and now DeAngelo have Slavin
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Pesce would be a great guy for this though I doubt Carolina would want to move him
ValJamesDuex
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Manson would be the ticket, but he will not come here and they probably won't spend either.
If they do not spend this summer they better use there cap space for assets per Travis Jost, it's just plain dumb not too.
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Yeap, Carolina would hardly have moved Pesce.
Connor Murphy
Matt Roy
Jamie Oleksiak - I know he plays RD but I don't know how good he is there but he used to be very decent defensively.
John Marino - he probably won't be available.
Ryan Ellis - maybe not quite what you need, but this guy definitely has experience playing in the first pair and his defense has not been bad before.
Adam Larsson
Damon Severson
David Savard - I wonder if he finally fell off the cliff or he has an unsuccessful time.
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It's Overreaction Saturday and the giraffe just scored a hatty, so how about some hot takes. I'll go first:
Tage is a 1C and will make us forget about that other tall center that once played for us.
Tage is a 1C and will make us forget about that other tall center that once played for us.
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Montour is someone I’d kick the tires on in the off season for a bottom pair Dman playing with Samuelson who has offensive ability.
with Dahlin/ Power they’d want more of a defense First Dman. poetry is that. He would fit playing 3rd pair with Samuelson but the cost is too high in terms of salary and age risk. Bryson would too if he could handle the off side.
Pysyk is someone I can see Buffalo keeping. In order to move him it has to be more than a middle round pick.
with Dahlin/ Power they’d want more of a defense First Dman. poetry is that. He would fit playing 3rd pair with Samuelson but the cost is too high in terms of salary and age risk. Bryson would too if he could handle the off side.
Pysyk is someone I can see Buffalo keeping. In order to move him it has to be more than a middle round pick.
I think I’m only half serious when I ask this. Vegas says to you Eichel for Thompson straight up, yes or no, do you do it? Again, I think I’m half kidding
Who woulda thunk that Skinny/Tage/Okie would be three of our best forwards this season.
As someone said in the injury thread, injuries have cost us as much as 20 points. I dont know if I'd go that far...but injuries, icing Hayden/Eakin/Bjork every game, and another year of goaltender chaos...those three things combined have kept us from being on the playoff bubble.
As someone said in the injury thread, injuries have cost us as much as 20 points. I dont know if I'd go that far...but injuries, icing Hayden/Eakin/Bjork every game, and another year of goaltender chaos...those three things combined have kept us from being on the playoff bubble.
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MarkusKetterer
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Injuries have probably cost us 8-10 points. What’s really cost points has been blowing leads. Even if you give half of them as “the other team has more talent/is deeper”, that’s an additional 8 points or more, if the losses ended up going to OT.
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Matt Ress
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On a scale of 1-10, how angry would everyone be if we went into Oct with Joker, Pysyk and Fitzy on the right side?
MarkusKetterer
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6.23 to 7.3. The scale will vary depending on who is behind them (if any) or how much Fitzy plays this season.
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Depends on how these players will look in the remaining games of this season. Pysyk plays like a solid RD of the second pair and the metrics confirm this.
Jokiharju doesn't seem very compatible with Dahlin to me and probably shouldn't play in the first pair. We definitely need a top 4 RD who is defensive or at least versatile, preferably with experience playing in the first pair.
But I would be angry and the same goes for goalie.
not mad, as long as Joker isn't playing with Dahlin and not addressing RHD means they added 3 good forwards instead of overpaying for one RHD.
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