2025 WJC

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I dont really see anything special about Yager. So vanilla. Shot yes i guess, but he doesnt seem to have the other tools to be able to get his shot off consistently. Certainly someone who if he's going to play in your top 6 needs to be surrounded by much more talented players.

50 point 2C is probably a very good outcome for him and even then that's probably way down the road. Maybe Ive just seen his worst games tho.
 
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I dont really see anything special about Yager. So vanilla. Shot yes i guess, but he doesnt seem to have the other tools to be able to get his shot off consistently. Certainly someone who if he's going to play in your top 6 needs to be surrounded by much more talented players.

50 point 2C is probably a very good outcome for him and even then that's probably way down the road. Maybe Ive just seen his worst games tho.
The way I see it is if you are at a tourney like this as a vet and captain, and you can't raise your game to lead at this level there is no way in hell you're doing it in the NHL. Obviously a very small sample size but he didn't look dangerous at all last night against Latvia of all teams.

In my mind the Jets already have this problem - too many players who can't elevate in big games.
 

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I dont really see anything special about Yager. So vanilla. Shot yes i guess, but he doesnt seem to have the other tools to be able to get his shot off consistently. Certainly someone who if he's going to play in your top 6 needs to be surrounded by much more talented players.

50 point 2C is probably a very good outcome for him and even then that's probably way down the road. Maybe Ive just seen his worst games tho.

So essentially Little, which is what most predict him as being if he hits.

He is a player that will take what the opposition gives him, but doesn't have the same tools to create lanes and chances for himself and linemates as KC, Fly, Scheifele, and Perfetti do.

He has the smarts and instincts to find the holes and capitalize on chances set up be his linemates. Add in defense and faceoffs and being a good two way 50 point C is valuable. Florida and Tampa have both won cups with similar 2C's.
 

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The stacked approach or the role playing approach?

Oh, haha, the role playing approach.

Canada has enough talent available to simply overpower most opponents.

Last night's Team Canada did manage to get 50 shots on net in regulation, but most of them were just fired right at the Latvian goalie. He was good, but they made him look better.

But their inability to score in the SO says something about them - and that Latvian goalie.
 
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I think this years coach is over matched with out elite all star players that he’s had in the past when he coached team Canada b4…

This years and last years team have and had no Chemistry.

Canada 🇨🇦 wins with heart ♥️ and this years team and last years team are devoid of that Quality to go far in this tourny.

I predict a first round exit for team Canada.
 
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So essentially Little, which is what most predict him as being if he hits.

He is a player that will take what the opposition gives him, but doesn't have the same tools to create lanes and chances for himself and linemates as KC, Fly, Scheifele, and Perfetti do.

He has the smarts and instincts to find the holes and capitalize on chances set up be his linemates. Add in defense and faceoffs and being a good two way 50 point C is valuable. Florida and Tampa have both won cups with similar 2C's.
Cirelli is one of the best 2 way players in the league and just made the World Cup team. Bennett is one of the most competitive and physical forwards in the game. I don’t see Yager as having any similar dimensions to his game

Little is a good comparison. I still think peak Little had a really high end motor that I don’t see in Yager but the skill levels are similar
 
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DEANYOUNGBLOOD17

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I think this years coach is over matched with out elite all star players that he’s had in the past when he coached team Canada b4…

This years and last years team have and had no Chemistry.

Canada 🇨🇦 wins with heart ♥️ and this years team and last years team are devoid of that Quality to go far in this tourny.

I predict a first round exit for team Canada.
🇨🇦

 
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BoneDocUK

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The stacked approach or the role playing approach?

Role-playing, I'd say.

Elite talent will out. Stack a team with it and try to find a way for them all to play together, and profit.

Or, pick a paper team made up with a player for every slot from 1-4F/ 1-3 D and watch them play those roles against the elitest talent available elsewhere, and hopefully rack some wins.

Good old Hockey Canada, tho I'm expecting the "start slow and win out" arguments to be made in defence of them.

Hats off to the Latvian minnows though -- nice to see them playing so well.
 

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Our top line is really underwhelming. Cowen has to be one of the most overrated players I've ever seen. Ritchie is ok but really isn't a top end center.
TSN is really playing up the Leafs prospect for TO viewers, down to the “player x is ready to come on the ice” commentary. Heads up Gord, don’t care when EASTON COWAN is getting ready to get on or off the ice.
 

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Think i'll just wait and see how Yager plays in a Jets uniform in what could be 2 years from now before writing him off completely.:laugh:
.........It's as if his considerable past accomplishments mean nothing with the knee jerk crowd. He will be a fine jet prospect. He had a bad game as did the entire team, and how often have we seen this with the jets and other teams. It's hockey!
 
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Role-playing, I'd say.

Elite talent will out. Stack a team with it and try to find a way for them all to play together, and profit.

Or, pick a paper team made up with a player for every slot from 1-4F/ 1-3 D and watch them play those roles against the elitest talent available elsewhere, and hopefully rack some wins.

Good old Hockey Canada, tho I'm expecting the "start slow and win out" arguments to be made in defence of them.

Hats off to the Latvian minnows though -- nice to see them playing so well.
Imagine they could replace the 4th "checking line" with a line of:

Cristall - Misa - Sennecke
 

Finster8

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How do you leave key top players like that out of the line up?
Not even an invitation for Sennecke and Misa who are playing at the top of their games. Both could be in the NHL next season
 

johnnyonthspot

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I think this years coach is over matched with out elite all star players that he’s had in the past when he coached team Canada b4…

This years and last years team have and had no Chemistry.

Canada 🇨🇦 wins with heart ♥️ and this years team and last years team are devoid of that Quality to go far in this tourny.

I predict a first round exit for team Canada.
I saw an interview with Easton Cowan. I was not impressed. He comes off as the rich kids whose parents paid his way to the squad. If he is in the leadership group then yikes. TsN hype machine also sucks the air out of this tourney with the goal song garbage and creating stories rather than letting them happen naturally.
 

B33R LEAGUE

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I think Canada's reign as a dominant hockey country is officially over.

This is what happens when middle class Canadian families can barely afford food...

Nevermind the cost of having kids or enrolling their kids in hockey.

Total number of registered ice hockey players in Canada from 2013/14 to 2022/23

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Thanks Govt...
 
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Buffdog

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I think Canada's reign as a dominant hockey country is officially over.

This is what happens when middle class Canadian families can barely afford food...

Nevermind the cost of having kids or enrolling their kids in hockey.

Total number of registered ice hockey players in Canada from 2013/14 to 2022/23

View attachment 953151

Thanks Govt...
1. What does enrollment in other countries look like over the same period
2. Isn't it more likely that kids at lower levels (non-elite kids) are the ones dropping out?
 
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surixon

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I think Canada's reign as a dominant hockey country is officially over.

This is what happens when middle class Canadian families can barely afford food...

Nevermind the cost of having kids or enrolling their kids in hockey.

Total number of registered ice hockey players in Canada from 2013/14 to 2022/23

View attachment 953151

Thanks Govt...

I mean it looks like it is trending back to the average post COVID.

But I'd say there is a lot more competition now and Canada won't dominate every tournament.
 
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