GDT: 2025 NHL Trade Deadline thread
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How has Yzerman not been skewered for his atrocious piece of business on Jake Walman? He traded a second to San Jose to get rid of him just after signing him to an extension, and San Jose just flipped him to Edmonton for a first. So San Jose got a 1st and a 2nd for taking on Walman, who was a good player for them and certainly not a cap dump, for a few months.
Lou Sassole
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There was something nice about rolling Chara and Wilson out at the same time when other teams started getting frisky.
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Reminder: Rantanen and Chychrun have the same agent. 
qc14
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If we had issues scoring, I'd agree with you. We do not. You don't want to have a whole team of guys that have nothing happen at either end when they're on the ice, but having a couple is actually a good thing. Having guys that can PK is a good thing, especially in the playoffs where special teams take on a greater importance.
There are guys out there that are better players than Eller. There are also guys that are around the same or much worse. I am a proponent of upgrading on Eller and making a big swing -- if that upgrade is for a good player. Spending to swap out one ok player with another ok player makes no sense, especially at the prices this TDL.
For context, here is Ryan Strome's card. More offense sure but he gives back so much more going the other way.
I wouldn't worry too much. Different players in different situations. I think it's clear that Rantanen wants to take the time to make a decision on where he wants to live and play, as is his right. For Chychrun, I think it's also clear that he wants to be in DC and it's a matter of coming together on a number.Reminder: Rantanen and Chychrun have the same agent.
Totally different situations.
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I would rather have three lines that can score the in the postseason rather than two. The games will tighten, they always do.
My opinion is we would be more dangerous with a guy like this on our third.
Really talking about Ryan Strome as a serious upgrade over Eller? They have the same number of goals this year — with Strome playing on the top line with Troy Terry and Frank Vetrano and on PP1 while Eller plays a checking line role and gets no PP time — and Eller is a better defensive player by a large margin.
Ryan Strome is the definition of making a move for the sake of making a move.
Ryan Strome is the definition of making a move for the sake of making a move.
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Unpopular minority "McPhee we like our team" take
Don't shake up the chemistry. Chemistry seems pretty special this year. Call up kids to get through injuries - who can play above expectations on adrenaline alone. About those injuries in the playoffs... players usually just play injured anyways. Backstrom with a sausage for a thumb is better than Hershey's best thinking. Backstrom couldn't even lift the cup himself.
Don't shake up the chemistry. Chemistry seems pretty special this year. Call up kids to get through injuries - who can play above expectations on adrenaline alone. About those injuries in the playoffs... players usually just play injured anyways. Backstrom with a sausage for a thumb is better than Hershey's best thinking. Backstrom couldn't even lift the cup himself.
SecretaryofDefense5
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Love Eller but he is washed. Stop trying to say he isn’t. Just watch him play.
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You are earning the "Misery" of your login your last several posts, Jeezum H. Crow
How is any of this good enough? --
- WE are the class of the East.
- We've been near #1 in Goals For, Goals Against, PK, Depth Scoring, Defense Scoring and Record all year
- EVERY team chasing us has Major faults in at least 1 of Depth/Goalies/D Corps
- our Black Aces in Leo/Miro/Lapi/Milano can be enough
- the "win it for OV" factor
WSH's only major weakness is lack of a non-39 year old Top Scorer and TDL today isn't going to change that (and w/OV/Willy/Pro/McM all scoring 22-32g that matches most Top-4's of other teams)
All we can do today is hope we get a decent mid-6 F that we don't pay the moon for (and very possibly not pay the King's Ransom at all and stand pat over ridiculous prices)
Teams have to beware of us
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Eller would be perfectly fine as the 4C. The problem is that Mangiapane, Duhaime, Dowd, Raddysh, and Eller are almost all the same archetype (below average to well below average offensive impacts with adequate to high end defensive impacts).
The PLD/Wilson line is rightfully the matchup line while Dowd’s line can take the other tough assignments. Their actual best 3rd line right now would probably be Mangiapane-Dowd-Raddysh but then that leaves Duhaime-Eller-Frank which makes little to no sense and would just be eating minutes hoping not to lose their matchup.
Pretty much, as currently constructed neither bottom 6 line is going to be able to bring much of anything offensively. And even if you acquire Marchand for example, and put him on the 3rd line (or move CMM down) and go Marchand/CMM-Eller-Mangiapane, is that setup really going to be functional? Mangiapane has been disappointing offensively but his overall impacts are still that of a good 3rd liner. But any offensive forward is going to be limited by playing with this version of Eller.
It’s easy to say that having Leonard play with 2 responsible vets in Eller and Mangiapane would be a good transition for him, but not when he would be expected to carry the line offensively. I would trade whatever I can for O’Reilly (besides Leonard/Hutson) and roll with Mangiapane-O’Reilly-Leonard in the playoffs.
The PLD/Wilson line is rightfully the matchup line while Dowd’s line can take the other tough assignments. Their actual best 3rd line right now would probably be Mangiapane-Dowd-Raddysh but then that leaves Duhaime-Eller-Frank which makes little to no sense and would just be eating minutes hoping not to lose their matchup.
Pretty much, as currently constructed neither bottom 6 line is going to be able to bring much of anything offensively. And even if you acquire Marchand for example, and put him on the 3rd line (or move CMM down) and go Marchand/CMM-Eller-Mangiapane, is that setup really going to be functional? Mangiapane has been disappointing offensively but his overall impacts are still that of a good 3rd liner. But any offensive forward is going to be limited by playing with this version of Eller.
It’s easy to say that having Leonard play with 2 responsible vets in Eller and Mangiapane would be a good transition for him, but not when he would be expected to carry the line offensively. I would trade whatever I can for O’Reilly (besides Leonard/Hutson) and roll with Mangiapane-O’Reilly-Leonard in the playoffs.
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From that heat chart, I think if he played with an offensively inclined RW that could stand in front of the net and withstand an ass kicking instead of Vrana or Frank that line gets unlocked
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I’ll take “Overused phrases on HF” for $1000 Alex.
FWIW the guy (semi) defending Eller posted about Strome lol….not the other way around.
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I believe they’ll work it out. He’s not getting traded today regardless. If he walks in July he walks. But there’s lots of time between now and then, and they’re hunting Stanley this year.
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Sorry to disagree. Strome is a top 6 forward. Sliding a top 6 forward to 3c is my idea of improvement.
We have to same goal, just see it two different ways.
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Does the team have weak spots? Sure. Should they sell the farm and abandon the plan so many here insisted didn’t exist to fill those weak spots? I don’t think so. These prices are bananas.
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My last Eller/3rd line comment:
Eller, Mangiapane, Frank, and Raddysh could certainly be upgraded upon, and it is the most logical spot for this team to make a change at (either directly or by bringing in someone that would push McM down).
Just because there's better players out there though doesn't mean that the current guys suck or are guaranteed to be what drags us down in the playoffs.
Eller, Mangiapane, Frank, and Raddysh could certainly be upgraded upon, and it is the most logical spot for this team to make a change at (either directly or by bringing in someone that would push McM down).
Just because there's better players out there though doesn't mean that the current guys suck or are guaranteed to be what drags us down in the playoffs.
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Days like today re-reveals who are the doom-and-gloomers
Winning the Cup isn't going to be by winning 6-2 16 times
It's going to be a lot of 2-1 and 3-2 games playing Team D with great goaltending and a strong D corps
Winning the Cup isn't going to be by winning 6-2 16 times
It's going to be a lot of 2-1 and 3-2 games playing Team D with great goaltending and a strong D corps
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Dude come on….stop being insulting…we all know how the playoffs work. None of us wants to overpay, but pretending like we can’t improve is silly.
Discussing obvious upgradable roster spots on deadline day is not doom and glooming it. Jesus H…
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Carlzner
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Defense is a lot more than just the 6 + G in the back, especially in the playoffs. The names being thrown around would actually bolster their team defense if anything.
I think the farm is strong enough that they can be extra generous with picks. It's not a Tampa situation where they're gonna crash in burn in a year or 2. Dangle both their 1st and BOS 2nd. Lapierre, I don't think his value's gonna grow next season personally. With Cristall in the system plus 2 top 6 C's signed for 5+ years, he's expendable.
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