GDT: 2025 NHL Trade Deadline thread

[Langway]

Yeah, I'm good with standing pat. Or at least making a move more on their terms only. Might need to dig pretty deep to find that fit, though.

 

[SecretaryofDefense5]

Caps need to move in some chips. This league is wide open. This riding the fence approach isn’t going to get you anywhere.

 

[caps4cup]

I just don’t see how they can roll with Eller as a 3C when they could have a legit shot at getting through the East in the playoffs. He’s just not good anymore. He’s not even a 4C caliber player on a Cup contending team. He’s the one spot that really needs to be upgraded.

 

[wickedwitch]

Ovi has one last kick at the can and you want to bank it on a college player coming in. Good lord.

I'd prefer that over completely overpaying for a piece that's a marginal upgrade or a bad fit at best.

 

[Caps8112]

Add Rantanen to the list of players who didn’t want to stay in Carolina along with the likes of Trochek, Dougie Hamilton, Jake Guentzel, Brett Pesce, Martin Necas, etc.

I know roster turnover is a thing, but I wonder if Rod rubs off the wrong way on more talented players. His relentless forechecking system is perfect for grinders but they really lack high end skill outside of Aho and Svechnikov (who could be argued has turned into a disappointment given his hype level and his early showings in the NHL).

Maybe Raleigh sucks, Rod sucks, the front office sucks — or maybe none of that is true and it’s just bad luck — but despite them being a team that consistently makes the playoffs, they do not seem like an organization players are dying to play for.

maybe like a dale hunter?

 

[895]

I think RoR might be available for a reasonable price because he has a verbal NMC and will only be moved if its a team that he wants to go to.

Get it done.

 

[SecretaryofDefense5]

I'd prefer that over completely overpaying for a piece that's a marginal upgrade or a bad fit at best.

When Raddysh ends up in the top six in the playoffs after an injury you may be feeling differently.

 

[Caps8112]

I'd prefer that over completely overpaying for a piece that's a marginal upgrade or a bad fit at best.

i mean, if overpaying is losing lappiere (spelling) im not that upset.

Caps need to move in some chips. This league is wide open. This riding the fence approach isn’t going to get you anywhere.

agree, if they win the east and did nothing to try to win the cup it will be a big disapointment

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

After I saw the Canes trade news last night I took some Caps futures. (Some casinos have locked NHL odds as of now)
I got Caps to win 2 playoff rounds +240
Caps to make the finals +550
Got Caps to win the cup +1000 about a week ago

And called my shot Caps vs Stars finals for like +2500

 

[marcel snapshot]

Add Rantanen to the list of players who didn’t want to stay in Carolina along with the likes of Trochek, Dougie Hamilton, Jake Guentzel, Brett Pesce, Martin Necas, etc.

I know roster turnover is a thing, but I wonder if Rod rubs off the wrong way on more talented players. His relentless forechecking system is perfect for grinders but they really lack high end skill outside of Aho and Svechnikov (who could be argued has turned into a disappointment given his hype level and his early showings in the NHL).

Maybe Raleigh sucks, Rod sucks, the front office sucks — or maybe none of that is true and it’s just bad luck — but despite them being a team that consistently makes the playoffs, they do not seem like an organization players are dying to play for.

Think with Rod it’s like a Hunter with Ovi thing. Rod and Dale played similar games - 200 foot commitment at all times, don’t concede any open ice, loose pucks, or room along the boards, be as committed to stopping goals as scoring them - and can’t really understand why everyone else doesn’t play like that. So they look at high skill O talent players and focus more on what they don’t do well, and less on what they do do well. Can be a drag to play for

 

[hb13xchamps]

Caps need to move in some chips. This league is wide open. This riding the fence approach isn’t going to get you anywhere.

So you would have moved our first and one of Cristall/Parascak plus a conditional third for a guy like Nelson? Today is going to be silly if that is what Nelson is going to cost.

Ride it out until the final hour today and see if prices significantly drop.

This is the shit GMs are dealing with today. Risto was written off the past two years and today he’s apparently with this:

 

[Caps8112]

this is who is available imo:

any prospect not named Cristall, Protas, Leonard, Parascak, Hutson. (may have missed one)

all of the goalies not on the caps right now.

any pick from this coming draft as we will be picking end of the round i assume?

they have a legitimate shot at the cup, I say go for it.

 

[marcel snapshot]

I mean if Scott Laughton is now the belle of the ball, I don’t want to go

 

[qc14]

I think there's a slim chance the market could shift back more favorably to buyers. Not for someone like Laughton, who they ought to avoid anyway. Or a defenseman given limited options. But beyond Donato/Zucker/Palmieri there's the off chance a rebuilder may be open to moving a non-rental winger for picks to flip in the summer for further restructuring. The value would still need to be there but it's what I'd target to a greater extent. Could there be a buy-low opportunity on someone like Zegras? They've done well to target change of scenery types...might as well try it again if possible if the market is otherwise inflated. There's some risk attached in the relative maintenance level compared to others but overall targeting a younger player should be more easily justified compared to getting into a bidding war over a typical rental stopgap.

Winnipeg & Toronto definitely still need to make moves. We'll see if NJD can land a center. LAK has been looking for more scoring. VGK is lurking. Outside of that...hard to say how active today will be.

If you think Mangiapane get's ragdolled on the puck and doesn't provide enough offense ... boy do I have news for you about Zegras

 

[Caps8112]

If you think Mangiapane get's ragdolled on the puck and doesn't provide enough offense ... boy do I have news for you about Zegras

yea i didnt/dont want Nelson, Zegras, Laughton

 

[SecretaryofDefense5]

What could we get for Mangiapane or Eller on this market?

If we aren’t in it to win it why not recoup some assets for guys who we could probably have internal fill ins for.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

How do I stream Trade Centre? Radio or live feed?

What could we get for Mangiapane or Eller on this market?

If we aren’t in it to win it why not recoup some assets for guys who we could probably have internal fill ins for.

Not in it to win it? LOL. Dude we are 1st in the league and the metro just turned into pumpkins. Just chill

 

[qc14]

Add Rantanen to the list of players who didn’t want to stay in Carolina along with the likes of Trochek, Dougie Hamilton, Jake Guentzel, Brett Pesce, Martin Necas, etc.

I know roster turnover is a thing, but I wonder if Rod rubs off the wrong way on more talented players. His relentless forechecking system is perfect for grinders but they really lack high end skill outside of Aho and Svechnikov (who could be argued has turned into a disappointment given his hype level and his early showings in the NHL).

Maybe Raleigh sucks, Rod sucks, the front office sucks — or maybe none of that is true and it’s just bad luck — but despite them being a team that consistently makes the playoffs, they do not seem like an organization players are dying to play for.

They think they're smarter than every other organization and do the Moneyball shit of never paying their guys and trying to nickel-and-dime every single negotiation. It definitely rubs guys the wrong way. Always chasing future flexibility rather than loading up for something in the present.

Much like Carolina, the A's never even made a World Series let alone won one

 

[Caps8112]

What could we get for Mangiapane or Eller on this market?

If we aren’t in it to win it why not recoup some assets for guys who we could probably have internal fill ins for.

bag of pucks, maybe a discount coupon not to be used on todays purchase.

dont really think they are worth anything.

 

[qc14]

What could we get for Mangiapane or Eller on this market?

If we aren’t in it to win it why not recoup some assets for guys who we could probably have internal fill ins for.

Trading Mangiapane or Eller would be some of the most loser shit a team has ever pulled lol

 

[Caps8112]

They think they're smarter than every other organization and do the Moneyball shit of never paying their guys and trying to nickel-and-dime every single negotiation. It definitely rubs guys the wrong way. Always chasing future flexibility rather than loading up for something in the present.

Much like Carolina, the A's never even made a World Series let alone won one

sucks management is like that there. I liked Raleigh when I went to watch the caps there and the stadium atmosphere (tailgating) was great.

 

[SecretaryofDefense5]

How do I stream Trade Centre? Radio or live feed?


Not in it to win it? LOL. Dude we are 1st in the league and the metro just turned into pumpkins. Just chill

I’m not looking at the metro my man. Tampa Bay has beefed up and are looking mean. We don’t have the depth to hang with that roster as it currently stands in a playoff brawl. We are one or two injuries from Raddysh or Mango top six.

 

[Langway]

If you think Mangiapane get's ragdolled on the puck and doesn't provide enough offense ... boy do I have news for you about Zegras

Well, yeah, but he's more skilled at least. And slightly bigger. Still soft but, hey, he did drop the gloves with Garland the other day...It probably won't happen due to not just the additional year remaining but also likely being a riskier bet than Mangiapane. With that risk does come some reward if they can tap into his upside but that's a difficult thing to do in short order (esp. if more on his own on the third line).

Palmieri wouldn't be so bad I guess. Definitely a slim amount of fits threading the needle of what would be a consequential enough upgrade to pay a high price for.

 

[qc14]

Well, yeah, but he's more skilled at least. And slightly bigger. Still soft but, hey, he did drop the gloves with Garland the other day...It probably won't happen due to not just the additional year remaining but also likely being a riskier bet than Mangiapane. With that risk does come some reward if they can tap into his upside but that's a difficult thing to do in short order (esp. if more on his own on the third line).

Palmieri wouldn't be so bad I guess. Definitely a slim amount of fits threading the needle of what would be a consequential enough upgrade to pay a high price for.

Yea I like Palmieri a lot. Zegras would've made sense in the offseason when they didn't know what they had in Protas/McMichael/PLD and when it was just one year of awful play to get over.

 

[Blades Ov Steel]

If anything is done of significance, I think it's going to be a move that no one sees coming. I don't think it involves overpaying for a marginal upgrade at best, especially if it involves losing a prospect and a 1st+

All these teams are trying to catch the Jets and the Capitals, of course they're going to make big splashes.