Transfer: 2024 Winter Transfer Window - Open Window Discussion

[bluesfan94]

Not a very liquid asset though, which is pretty important for a pension/retirement fund.

They can always loan against it if they have a need for cash.

 

[KJS14]

They can always loan against it if they have a need for cash.

That's fair. The accountant in me would dread the level 2/3 fair value disclosures though.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Not a very liquid asset though, which is pretty important for a pension/retirement fund.

A pension fund large enough to own a sports team is one with other major sources of liquidity.

 

[S E P H]

You're too old not to know the difference between a court of law and the court of public opinion. If Partey escapes punishment like Greenwood has, then the onus will still be on him to convince people that he's a changed man and doing everything he can to fight the problem that he was a part of.

 

[Savant]

LFC probably have to sign a defender in January with Matip probably done for the season. It’s a shame because he may have played his last game for LFC being out of contract in the summer. Looked washed in preseason but put together a very good season until his injury



Might be better off signing a fullback than a centerback though with Quansah emerging, but they probably need another body back there.

Would really like to get another forward too but that’s going to be a tough one

 

[Vasilevskiy]

Bayern Munchen have signed Bryan Zaragoza from Granada paying his release clause of 14-16M€ (not sure which one of the two is the correct figure). Very talented player but still inconsistent. Reminds me of Bryan Gil

 

[cgf]

Yawn. The world would be a better place if you were all as smart as me, but that's the laziest excuse you could make for someone being unable or unwilling to engage with society.

If Partey doesn't want to deal with the opinions of other people then he can retire from public life, buy an earthship in New Mexico and go live off the grid. Nobody will bother him then.

 

[luiginb]

Bayern Munchen have signed Bryan Zaragoza from Granada paying his release clause of 14-16M€ (not sure which one of the two is the correct figure). Very talented player but still inconsistent. Reminds me of Bryan Gil

Wow, did not expect that, he's been good (albeit not spectacular) for Granada this year but I had never heard of him before 23/24 and he's TINY. Like Lorenzo Insigne tiny. He should buy de la Fuente a beer.

 

[Gecklund]

@Duchene2MacKinnon sounds like Pedro de La Vega is heading to Seattle (MLS).

 

[S E P H]

Yawn. The world would be a better place if you were all as smart as me, but that's the laziest excuse you could make for someone being unable or unwilling to engage with society.

If Partey doesn't want to deal with the opinions of other people then he can retire from public life, buy an earthship in New Mexico and go live off the grid. Nobody will bother him then.

Honestly mate, I am trying to stop talking about politics on this board and I don't have the time to get into long-drawn debates as I did in the past. My opinion doesn't really matter to you about what my beliefs are simply because I am just one bloke in the cosmos. I am willing to engage with you whenever and about whatever, but I don't care if I come across as lazy anymore for the reasons presented above.

What I will conclude is that people are stupid, which is why I posted that video. They will continue to believe people are evil even without knowing that 99% of the information was presented in a court of law. Law is far from perfect, we've seen brothers get harsher sentences from Clinton's three-strike rule presented in the 90s and that has hurt the black community worse than ever before since it hurts them get real jobs down the road. Law has also allowed sexual assault and rapers go free of charge in certain cases. But I still have hope that the court system gets more right than wrong and why I personally go with the status of innocent until proven guilty. Did Greenwood become innocent as well? Yes, but that was for nefarious reasons which hasn't happened with Partey. This isn't me defending him, I argue on the side of common sense and if 2/3+ women come out with accusations against a bloke as what happened to Mendy, there is smoke somewhere there and doesn't look good in the probability numbers. I don't want a rapist on my team, so if information ever comes out that proves he is, he should GTFO anywhere near my club. I don't want to play a rapist either, but again he's innocent until proven guilty. And as @Brunkmeister mentioned in the past, there is a good chance he's sold in winter or next summer and that solves the problem of Arsenal. Now does that help the victims if they were truly raped? Sadly no.

 

[cheechoo]

Bayern Munchen have signed Bryan Zaragoza from Granada paying his release clause of 14-16M€ (not sure which one of the two is the correct figure). Very talented player but still inconsistent. Reminds me of Bryan Gil

Deep block 1v1 specialist. He's such an electrifying player to watch and Bayern have needed some new life on the wings for a few years now. Gotten a bit stale.

I love those deals where clubs come to an agreement to transfer the player in the summer in the winter window. It's like we love this player so much we're willing to wait just to get them.

Chelsea did something similar with Nkunku and Malo Gusto last year.

 

[cheechoo]

Douglas is way better than Caicedo, but the problem is that you had a bidding war for him between two very wealthy clubs where he was the shiny new toy. Luiz has already been in the league for what seems like ten years and he's only 25 years old.

I'm not against your opinion, but "way better" is harsh.

Caicedo has a super rare skillset of being in the inner circle of the venn diagram if on either side were

a) being a top tier ballwinner
b) being a conductor style deepest lying midfielder in buildup

Camavinga comes to mind as well.

As a 21 year old in his first professional season in the PL under De Zerbi Caicedo was entrusted to orchestrate their pausa style JDP football and then to beat the press and spring transitions after luring them in under high pressure. He's the total tactical chess piece LCM/RCM/RB/#8 all at very high level.

Luiz & Kamara have been awesome under Emery. John McGinn is also one of the best kept PL secrets. But it should speak volume that LFC, who are very responsible spenders put 110M on the table for Caicedo just a few months ago.

He was coveted by Arteta & Klopp for a reason. His ability combined with his resumé to date can take him to the moon.

 

[Evilo]

Caicedo benefited from his team's play.
His individual skillset is much more average.

 

[Epictetus]

Thankfully Caicedo chose Chelsea. I still don't understand the price or hype. Same goes for the likes of Enzo, Mount, Havertz, etc.

Liverpool pivoting after their first choice went elsewhere is where they've done some great transfer work.

 

[luiginb]

Caicedo benefited from his team's play.
His individual skillset is much more average.

This year we see Caicedo without Gross and MacAllister and it ain't pretty

 

[cgf]

Malen reportedly wants to leave Dortmund, speculation that they'd want a fee around what they paid for him. Which would be a good buy for someone.

 

[Evilo]

West Ham has already offered 25M for Cherki.
Hopefully he doesn't go end his career there.

 

[S E P H]

@JPBolts Fabrizio Romano mentioned that Arsenal wants to go back in for Douglas.

West Ham has already offered 25M for Cherki.
Hopefully he doesn't go end his career there.

Payet 2.0.

 

[VEGASKING]

Malen reportedly wants to leave Dortmund, speculation that they'd want a fee around what they paid for him. Which would be a good buy for someone.

Saw a rumor somewhere in the last day or two saying swap for Sancho

 

[cgf]

Saw a rumor somewhere in the last day or two saying swap for Sancho

I wouldn't shocked if Sancho bounced back in Dortmund, but that would be a dumb move unless Dortmund was getting paid for Malen while only taking Sancho on loan.

Although might be worth a punt with JBG's evolution and Adeyemi giving them a lot of what Malen does already. At least with Sancho they might get him back into the form he was in when he was feeding Haaland

 

[JoVel]

I wouldn't shocked if Sancho bounced back in Dortmund, but that would be a dumb move unless Dortmund was getting paid for Malen while only taking Sancho on loan.

I wouldn't necessarily be shocked either, but it isn't as simple as "he did well at BVB in the past, he'll do well again", as a lot of people seem to think. You can't just ignore what has been going on with him at Manchester. If the finance makes sense though, why not.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

If given a choice of one Caicedo, Havertz and Mount. I will always select Caicedo. Even if Massively overpriced, he would provide more speed and dribbling from the DM position. He also has more raw talent.

 

[cgf]

If given a choice of one Caicedo, Havertz and Mount. I will always select Caicedo. Even if Massively overpriced, he would provide more speed and dribbling from the DM position. He also has more raw talent.

Que?

 

[cgf]

Tuchel has reportedly already talked to Araujo on the phone about a move to Bavaria.

 

[Evilo]

Which one?