OT: 2024 Weather Thread

[Drivesaitl]

Incorrect

Don't confuse per capita emissions with total emissions by country. What Canada does relative to China is insignificant. We could live in the dark rubbing stones together and freezing to death and our reduction in emissions wouldn't make a drop of difference as countries like China have exploding emissions. Its the difficulty with the tragedy of the commons. Nothing Canada does specifically makes any difference globally.

Opinion: How big are Canada’s carbon emissions? Compared to China, we’re a rounding error

China is now the biggest polluter, by far – its emissions more than doubled between 2002 and 2010

www.theglobeandmail.com

 

[Drivesaitl]

Solar will be an ongoing thing and probably improve just like EV's will. All I know is that I pay in the low $100's a month for my loan and I am pretty much not going to pay for electricity every again (or very very low depending on how much and when you use it). Having a Tesla helps pay it off sooner too, No more hundreds of dollars in gas. I spend maybe $150 max in gas on my SUV because I drive it less.. I'm in a situation where I don't drive around a ton in general. Even with kids. Lots of things nearby. Saving $$ though.

Great that it works well for you and it does on some new homes or certain homes. For many the roof structure of older homes would be insufficient to hold the weight of roof, snow, and solar array. Perhaps worse the solar arrays can contribute to roof ice damming in our climate. As with anything more time is required to properly assess how these perform through time and any unintended side effects like damage to roof. Seems as well the rooftop solar array only makes sense for more permanent roofs. Metal cladding and not for shingled roofs of any type.

Really though its not cost feasible at all without massive subsidy being provided. But you do get max possible benefit with the EV car, the newer house designed for solar array, and the ability to invest that much because its a new house you intend to live in for awhile.

Trouble is economies of scale don't ramp up so well because demand and installation will lag.

just spitballing your calculation. I have a modest bungalow. Reasonably insulated and high efficiency furnace and newer water tank. Energy costs are about 100/mth. Gas for vehicle doesn't cost me a lot either as one tank a month gets it done when one is retired. So that my monthly energy costs are about 160bucks. 250bucks factoring in our gas heating bill. Would take forever to get return on investment. In our situation it would never be had. Its the trouble for most people that there just won't be economic benefit, ever to solar panel installation. You might recoup costs. Vast majority wouldn't.

 

[MoneyGuy]

I hate when people try to pass off wind chills as actual temperatures as if it’s a badge of honour. Minus 40 temps are exceedingly rare (none in the previous 52 years, I read) but the way people boast you’d think it’s a regular occurrence.

 

[doulos]

Don't confuse per capita emissions with total emissions by country. What Canada does relative to China is insignificant. We could live in the dark rubbing stones together and freezing to death and our reduction in emissions wouldn't make a drop of difference as countries like China have exploding emissions. Its the difficulty with the tragedy of the commons. Nothing Canada does specifically makes any difference globally.

Opinion: How big are Canada’s carbon emissions? Compared to China, we’re a rounding error

China is now the biggest polluter, by far – its emissions more than doubled between 2002 and 2010

www.theglobeandmail.com

What I mean is that what Canada does in terms of being market leaders in areas has an impact even if the % of emissions is marginal. Either way it's not relevant to my point which is that a climate crisis exists. How it gets addressed is where the conversation must lie. Not in denial of the problem (not claiming you were denying it exists but the other individual was)

 

[Morpheus]

Can anyone help me with a jump start battery boost?

My Tesla Cybertruck won’t start and I can’t find anything on google…perhaps I’ll try a push start??

 

[mkatcherin00]

Great that it works well for you and it does on some new homes or certain homes. For many the roof structure of older homes would be insufficient to hold the weight of roof, snow, and solar array. Perhaps worse the solar arrays can contribute to roof ice damming in our climate. As with anything more time is required to properly assess how these perform through time and any unintended side effects like damage to roof. Seems as well the rooftop solar array only makes sense for more permanent roofs. Metal cladding and not for shingled roofs of any type.

Really though its not cost feasible at all without massive subsidy being provided. But you do get max possible benefit with the EV car, the newer house designed for solar array, and the ability to invest that much because its a new house you intend to live in for awhile.

Trouble is economies of scale don't ramp up so well because demand and installation will lag.

I got a $5000 subsidy, which is nice. That usually takes a while to get. I could have bought the system, but I am not saying no to a 0% interest free loan that can be paid back over 10 years. Yeah for me the situation was perfect. I picked up the EV just before my possession so charging that up all year helped with getting approved for a larger system.

Can anyone help me with a jump start battery boost?

My Tesla Cybertruck won’t start and I can’t find anything on google…perhaps I’ll try a push start??

You should have AMA dawg. Easy

 

[doulos]

Can anyone help me with a jump start battery boost?

My Tesla Cybertruck won’t start and I can’t find anything on google…perhaps I’ll try a push start??

Just get elon to come on over. His ego will charge the battery on its own.

 

[Drivesaitl]

I got a $5000 subsidy, which is nice. That usually takes a while to get. I could have bought the system, but I am not saying no to a 0% interest free loan that can be paid back over 10 years. Yeah for me the situation was perfect. I picked up the EV just before my possession so charging that up all year helped with getting approved for a larger system.


You should have AMA dawg. Easy

heh. I have it but my goal is to never need it. Or rarely. Wait times are bad, predictably.

121+ hour wait for a boost in Edmonton amid cold snap, AMA says

You may be waiting a while if your car is in need of a tow or a boost this week. In the Edmonton region...

cfweradio.ca

Amazed how many people on our block figured just plugging in a block heater was going to be enough in this weather and leaving cars parked outdoors for days without starting them and letting them run periodically. Guess what. Won't start. Not even with boosts.

 

[Sra1974]

Green Xero liked the post anyway. lol. You almost want to screenshot that.

Canada's emissions, or decreases in emissions don't make a spit of difference in global emissions. Unfortunately atmosphere doesn't know borders. Who knew.

True to a point but just because some other guy dumps a whole bunch of litter out doesn’t make it ok for me to litter just a bit. It is not a perfect analogy and I think the more salient point is that Canada needs to stop hiding from our very impressive energy production capability and recognize the world needs more energy not less and there’s no point in committing economic suicide while letting less responsible regimes fill that gap.

 

[mkatcherin00]

heh. I have it but my goal is to never need it. Or rarely. Wait times are bad, predictably.

121+ hour wait for a boost in Edmonton amid cold snap, AMA says

You may be waiting a while if your car is in need of a tow or a boost this week. In the Edmonton region...

cfweradio.ca

Amazed how many people on our block figured just plugging in a block heater was going to be enough in this weather and leaving cars parked outdoors for days without starting them and letting them run periodically. Guess what. Won't start. Not even with boosts.

Yeah, I have had it forever and used it once in 10 years lol. It's handy though. Peace of mind

heh. I have it but my goal is to never need it. Or rarely. Wait times are bad, predictably.

121+ hour wait for a boost in Edmonton amid cold snap, AMA says

You may be waiting a while if your car is in need of a tow or a boost this week. In the Edmonton region...

cfweradio.ca

Amazed how many people on our block figured just plugging in a block heater was going to be enough in this weather and leaving cars parked outdoors for days without starting them and letting them run periodically. Guess what. Won't start. Not even with boosts.

So far mine started. Just did one a while ago. Plugged it in. We will see how tomorrow goes....I don't ever recall seeing -60 on the forecast in my life.

 

[rboomercat90]

Not worried about it because it's nonsense

I remember when you weren’t worried about Covid ever affecting your life. You were a little off on that one too.

 

[doulos]

I remember when you weren’t worried about Covid ever affecting your life. You were a little off on that one too.

I was wrong on that for sure.

It's amazing how I live rent free in your head though. The wonders of the internet.

 

[Da McBomb]

Honestly... if there is no snow or wind... and its a bright sunny blue sky day like today... it's actually not THAT bad. I just went for a walk and it felt refreshing. Felt better than walking/running outside in plus 30's for sure. I think you start to get used to it over time. Like today seemed better than yesterday.. and yesterday felt better than the day before... (not that I want this weather to stay)

 

[doulos]

Honestly... if there is no snow or wind... and its a bright sunny blue sky day like today... it's actually not THAT bad. I just went for a walk and it felt refreshing. Felt better than walking outside in plus 30's. I think you start to get used to it over time. Like today seemed better than yesterday.. and yesterday felt better than the day before...

Once it hit -20 it will feel like shorts day.

 

[mkatcherin00]

Honestly... if there is no snow or wind... and its a bright sunny blue sky day like today... it's actually not THAT bad. I just went for a walk and it felt refreshing. Felt better than walking/running outside in plus 30's for sure. I think you start to get used to it over time. Like today seemed better than yesterday.. and yesterday felt better than the day before... (not that I want this weather to stay)

Yup

If there is no wind, I can barely tell the different from -25 to -40 lol. Mind you I am just walking from the car to a store or school

 

[brentashton]

Oldest daughter bought a Tiguan last fall.

Guess what, VW does not put block heaters in their vehicles, not even an option on her model. As well, the oil pan is plastic which limits options for aftermarket heaters unless you change the pan to metal. They offer a circulating heater but say that it’s largely ineffective.

Their literature suggests that synthetic oils are sufficiently light enough that block heaters are unnecessary in extreme cold, but that because of harshness of cold temps on batteries that a wired battery tender/ blanket should be installed. Silliest thing I’ve ever hear of. So the car is cranking so stiff because of the cold that the battery cant handle the draw but your oil, pistons etc are fine with a harsh cold weather start.

Before her window for extended warranty expires, I will encourage her to purchase it.

 

[Drivesaitl]

I hate when people try to pass off wind chills as actual temperatures as if it’s a badge of honour. Minus 40 temps are exceedingly rare (none in the previous 52 years, I read) but the way people boast you’d think it’s a regular occurrence.

Even the -40C windchill events are rare. Reposting this link for interest. Can't find any for just the Temps. But in anycase thats about 48X in last 25yrs. Less than 2/yr.

Number of Days with a Windchill ≤ -40 - Annual data for Edmonton

Chart and data: Number of Days with a Windchill ≤ -40 - Annual data (25 years) for Edmonton for Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

edmonton.weatherstats.ca

Without windchill very rare as you say.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

annnnd this is why colder temperatures suck worse than warm ones

imagine a brown out in extreme cold winter

 

[DrDrai]

annnnd this is why colder temperatures suck worse than warm ones

imagine a brown out in extreme cold winter

Ya that would be crazy. Never thought I’d see an alert like that.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Oldest daughter bought a Tiguan last fall.

Guess what, VW does not put block heaters in their vehicles, not even an option on her model. As well, the oil pan is plastic which limits options for aftermarket heaters unless you change the pan to metal. They offer a circulating heater but say that it’s largely ineffective.

Their literature suggests that synthetic oils are sufficiently light enough that block heaters are unnecessary in extreme cold, but that because of harshness of cold temps on batteries that a wired battery tender/ blanket should be installed. Silliest thing I’ve ever hear of. So the car is cranking so stiff because of the cold that the battery cant handle the draw but your oil, pistons etc are fine with a harsh cold weather start.

Before her window for extended warranty expires, I will encourage her to purchase it.

I’m not laughing at your daughter’s plight, but how f***ing stupid VW is.

 

[brentashton]

I’m not laughing at your daughter’s plight, but how f***ing stupid VW is.

No offense taken. I agree, just assinine.

 

[nexttothemoon]

Even the -40C windchill events are rare. Reposting this link for interest. Can't find any for just the Temps. But in anycase thats about 48X in last 25yrs. Less than 2/yr.

Number of Days with a Windchill ≤ -40 - Annual data for Edmonton

Chart and data: Number of Days with a Windchill ≤ -40 - Annual data (25 years) for Edmonton for Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

edmonton.weatherstats.ca

Without windchill very rare as you say.

Number of Days with a Windchill ≤ -40 - Annual data Jul 1-Jun 30 for High Level

Chart and data: Number of Days with a Windchill ≤ -40 - Annual data Jul 1-Jun 30 (25 years) for High Level for High Level, Alberta, Canada

highlevel.weatherstats.ca

Not all of us are lucky enough to live in tropical Edmonton though.

 

[BlackDogg]

Oldest daughter bought a Tiguan last fall.

Guess what, VW does not put block heaters in their vehicles, not even an option on her model. As well, the oil pan is plastic which limits options for aftermarket heaters unless you change the pan to metal. They offer a circulating heater but say that it’s largely ineffective.

Their literature suggests that synthetic oils are sufficiently light enough that block heaters are unnecessary in extreme cold, but that because of harshness of cold temps on batteries that a wired battery tender/ blanket should be installed. Silliest thing I’ve ever hear of. So the car is cranking so stiff because of the cold that the battery cant handle the draw but your oil, pistons etc are fine with a harsh cold weather start.

Before her window for extended warranty expires, I will encourage her to purchase it.

I bought a truck in Sask once from GM, and didn't realize it had no block heater. I always assumed everything sold here would, so never noticed till the next winter.

 

[brentashton]

I bought a truck in Sask once from GM, and didn't realize it had no block heater. I always assumed everything sold here would, so never noticed till the next winter.

At least with GM, Ford. Toyota products it’s a cold weather pkg option. If you ever import a vehicle from USA you will often have to install one too. Not a huge deal.

But for VW…nada. Not available.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

Reddit is the opposite. It's like dropping by a first year undergrad class and listening to a bunch of young people who think they have everything figured out because they watched a few tiktok videos. Again, good kids, but funny.

Anyone who thinks a climate crisis does not exist is completely ignorant of reality. Now, the best way to deal with this extremely real situation is where the really interesting conversations happen between smart people across the political and social spectrum. The feasibility of EV cars, battery tech, nuclear power, carbon taxes (and more) are all nuanced topics that are great to discuss. Saying there is no climate crisis is not. That's either willful ignorance or internet trolling.

Yet, r/alberta repeats the same talking points as you do concerning the "Climate Crisis" and want the same things as you do. They also agreed with you about Covid. They are also very left leaning like you.

Perhaps you were a bit hasty in throwing them under the bus?

Or perhaps some politicians take a reality (a warming planet) and then supercharge it (Crisis! We will all die!) so they can sell their Snake Oil (Carbon Tax, EVs') to the populace while really doing nothing constructive.

You know, just maybe.