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Say what we will about Boll, that is a nice thing to do to root for each player. Can't imagine it any other way but still, cool to see. Cool idea too, even if betting is getting out of hand in the league, haha. :D (I might prefer they do laps every time a player scores, kind of a "support the goalies" initiative.)

Owen Sillinger making the team would be a fun story (he hasn't played any NHL games afaik). Not sure I'll be holding my breath, though, and even if he does, unlikely to last long...
 
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BerthMania said:
Question to Jackets fans, how do you see the lines distributed? You have: Fantili, Monahan, Jenner, Johnson, Sillinger, Marchenko, Chinakhov and Voronkov who are legit candidates for top 6. Also, who do you see on the PP?

Who do you see as the better player between Chinakhov and Voronkov? Who will produce more this year in your opinion?
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I think you could slot Chinakov into Laine's role this year and he wouldn't miss a beat if he's healthy..

I don't think he'll be a PPG player, but I think he could bring just as much value in his smart plays and just being more of physical than Laine.
 
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CBJx614 said:
I think you could slot Chinakov into Laine's role this year and he wouldn't miss a beat if he's healthy..

I don't think he'll be a PPG player, but I think he could bring just as much value in his smart plays and just being more of physical than Laine.
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Chinakhov will score more goals and more points than Laine next year, and every year moving forward. IMO

He could still improve his defensive “awareness” a bit, and he’s not an overly agile/“shifty” player, but, his physical strength and skating has improved drastically in just a few years, as it shows what (and how quickly) a player can change or improve, when he ACTUALLY commits. I’d be extremely interested in seeing him get PK time also, he has a very good stick defensively, and would be a threat the opposing teams would have to worry about. 100% a better option than guys like KJ or Sillinger.

Look at Chinakhov’s SOG and PP numbers in relation to other “shooters” around the league. With Laine gone, and opportunities now available to others more deserving, we could see Chinakhov triple his SOG numbers, and you know, actually score some PP goals.

I see Chinakhov as this years “breakout” player. Possibly on a league wide level. I wasn’t always sold on him to start, but, the shot and offensive ability cannot be denied, and he’s improved his skating so much that he’s able to make space for himself, and quite literally skate past people, in order to get shots off regularly.

As a “young Russian” coming over, he’s progressed about as good as we could have hoped for. IMO, right now regarding the forwards, he’s 2nd to Fantilli when I’m thinking long term. 50 goal (90pt) potential.
 
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CBJx614 said:
I think you could slot Chinakov into Laine's role this year and he wouldn't miss a beat if he's healthy..

I don't think he'll be a PPG player, but I think he could bring just as much value in his smart plays and just being more of physical than Laine.
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The most important factor is coaching. Evason is a top coach who can play to the strengths of the players and at least partially cover up weaknesses. That's why I believe that Chinakhov, Voronkov and Sillinger will show their qualities. Of course not only them, but personally I am most interested in this trio + Provorov, Malatesta and Tarasov.
 
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tunnelvision said:
It can't? Removing last year's best PP goal scorer (and 2nd best the year before) from the PP altogether doesn't sound like a smart experiment.
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It's training camp, it's gonna get shuffled.

Guys get hurt, players rotate in and out.


And once again, we're talking about a PP that hasn't been threatening in years, I'm open to new combos and ideas.
 
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tunnelvision said:
https://x.com/i/web/status/1837843518040973397

No clue how to read that but I'm assuming:

------------ Jenner
Johnson - Monahan - Chinakhov
----------- Werenski

------------- JVR
Sillinger - Voronkov - Fantilli
------- Provorov/Severson

It is what it is....
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There are a lot of options for the PP on the roster, I would be surprised if Marchenko is not on either unit on opening night though. That PP1 listed will have zone entry issues unless Johnson and/or Chinakhov have taken some leaps
 
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https://x.com/i/web/status/1837851742500688119

https://x.com/i/web/status/1837851096477274147

https://x.com/i/web/status/1837858279017349457

tunnelvision said:
It can't? Removing last year's best PP goal scorer (and 2nd best the year before) from the PP altogether doesn't sound like a smart experiment.
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https://x.com/i/web/status/1837847731408089396


I don't understand why our best shooter is on the left wall as a lefty. Wouldn't we get the most out of his shot on the right side? With a righty on the left side to feed him?
 
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I don't understand why our best shooter is on the left wall as a lefty. Wouldn't we get the most out of his shot on the right side? With a righty on the left side to feed him?
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At this point it can't get any worse so why not try some stuff out.

It's training camp, it's gonna get shuffled.

Guys get hurt, players rotate in and out.

And once again, we're talking about a PP that hasn't been threatening in years, I'm open to new combos and ideas.

:sarcasm:

But to answer your question, Chinakhov might actually be more effective on the left than the right. He's lacked consistency in puck handling and pass reception, and it's no surprise you rarely see him fire one timers even from that right flank spot that is usually considered ideal for LH players. He's not the quickest tight area shooter either (takes time to get the shot off), he's more dangerous when shooting in motion and there's enough space in front of him.
 
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tunnelvision said:
At this point it can't get any worse so why not try some stuff out.

It's training camp, it's gonna get shuffled.

Guys get hurt, players rotate in and out.

And once again, we're talking about a PP that hasn't been threatening in years, I'm open to new combos and ideas.

:sarcasm:

But to answer your question, Chinakhov might actually be more effective on the left than the right. He's lacked consistency in puck handling and pass reception, and it's no surprise you rarely see him fire one timers even from that right flank spot that is usually considered ideal for LH players. He's not the quickest tight area shooter either (takes time to get the shot off), he's more dangerous when shooting in motion and there's enough space in front of him.
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It also allows KJ to be a better playmaker on the right hand side. But Chinny really excels at that right point spot imo.






That only works because it's a 5-3. If it's a 5-4 he doesn't have the time to set for that shot.

Compared to here


He looks so comfortable on that right point, not only shooting, but playmaking from the point




Either way, I'm going to give Evason the benefit of the doubt to start the season.
 
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LDBB and TFW have nice chemistry, give and go and LDBB almost snuck one in

Owen has some nice wheels.

Elick looks pretty confident with the puck and holy hell is he big.
 
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Good timing, right place, right time for the Fimis garbage goal.

Christiansen playing pretty aggressively. I think it was Harris seemed to be playing the same way

Pinelli throwing a lot of pucks on net.
 
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