GDT: 2024 TDL thread. Post all trades, rumors, and etc around the league. (TDL, Friday 3/8 @ 3pm ET)

[Shesterkybomb]

Duclair, depth d, keep all our players and high end picks and prospects, and roll. Imo Vatrano isn't the answer, Guentzel is gonna cost too much and personally at this point the east goes through Florida, they just added Tarasenko to an already stacked lineup. Unless Kreider and Mika come alive we have no chance beating them anyway, let alone the Oilers, Avalanche, Knights.

 

[MrAlmost]

it kinda does though

we're a bad 5 on 5 team and that wins cups. a fluke run off the back of SHesterkin and Fox going god mode doesn't change that.

We are mediocre 5v5. 2 lines work and 2 lines don't. 3 lines would work if 2 players decided to realize the season started. The 4th line is on Drury. He is too loyal, too scared, too something to get rid of Goodrow.

 

[duhmetreE]

it kinda does though

we're a bad 5 on 5 team and that wins cups. a fluke run off the back of SHesterkin and Fox going god mode doesn't change that.

Our 1C and 2/4 of our top4 sucks. That puts a damper on a lot of 5v5 success. Losing Chytil hurts even more.

This does fall on the GM. He needs to address it.

 

[Raspewtin]

Our 1C and 2/4 of our top4 sucks. That puts a damper on a lot of 5v5 success. Losing Chytil hurts even more.

This does fall on the GM. He needs to address it.

not only that but Drury gave Zib the most restrictive contract in NA sports history and now that he sucks assholes we're absolutely stuck with him with no way out.

We are mediocre 5v5. 2 lines work and 2 lines don't. 3 lines would work if 2 players decided to realize the season started. The 4th line is on Drury. He is too loyal, too scared, too something to get rid of Goodrow.

No. We're bad at 5 on 5. Drury give Zib that inexcusable contract and he gets to pay the price for it. No one's fault but his. Furthermore, he gave Goodrow a top 3 worst contract in the league in the cap era and refuses to fix it.

Drury honestly sucks but most GMs do.

 

[pld459666]

Imagine if you’re Guentzel and you go from a real man’s man, alpha male center, like Sidney Crosby to a mild mannered soy bean tofu eating Swedish dj like Mika. Poor guy!

Hysterical

 

[Raspewtin]

Not defending Drury but Zito has had some misfires too. Look at their 21-22 TDL. First round pick for Chariot. First round pick and Tippet for Giroux. Got swept in the 2nd round.

Drury has more bad trades than good ones and his worst moves are ones that we're dearly paying for to this day. I can live with bad moves that were risky. Florida were the PT winners and Giroux was an awesome idea. Chiarot sucks but that's unfortunately a move most GMs would've made.

Three straight deadlines now we need to make trades because he traded Buch for garbage and hedged his bets on that loser Kakko being a useful player.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

If you can get Buchnevich at 50% for a 2024 1st, another pick for retention, while keeping Othmann, Perreault, Kakko, and Cuylle, you really gotta consider it. Buchnevich at $2.9M next year is a coup.

I’m all for keeping 1st round picks and I agree it looks ridiculous to move him for a 2nd and Blais and then trade a 1st+ for him, but you gotta move on and do what’s best for the team right now.

 

[NYR Viper]

 

[DanielBrassard]

If you can get Buchnevich at 50% for a 2024 1st, another pick for retention, while keeping Othmann, Perreault, Kakko, and Cuylle, you really gotta consider it. Buchnevich at $2.9M next year is a coup.

I’m all for keeping 1st round picks and I agree it looks ridiculous to move him for a 2nd and Blais and then trade a 1st+ for him, but you gotta move on and do what’s best for the team right now.

Probably couldn’t keep all of them. Perreault and Cuylle I wouldn’t trade but if you get Buch at 50% for Othmann or Kakko, 1st, and a later pick that’s too good not to do.

 

[dshea19]

If you can get Buchnevich at 50% for a 2024 1st, another pick for retention, while keeping Othmann, Perreault, Kakko, and Cuylle, you really gotta consider it. Buchnevich at $2.9M next year is a coup.

I’m all for keeping 1st round picks and I agree it looks ridiculous to move him for a 2nd and Blais and then trade a 1st+ for him, but you gotta move on and do what’s best for the team right now.

Probably a moot point considering the word is he doesn't want to come back. If the Rangers are on his 12 team no trade list, all of this discussion is meaningless because it doesn't matter what Drury is willing to do.

 

[will1066]

No matter what else happens, I love you all.

 

[duhmetreE]

Chychrun and Zucker

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Drury has more bad trades than good ones and his worst moves are ones that we're dearly paying for to this day. I can live with bad moves that were risky. Florida were the PT winners and Giroux was an awesome idea. Chiarot sucks but that's unfortunately a move most GMs would've made.

Three straight deadlines now we need to make trades because he traded Buch for garbage and hedged his bets on that loser Kakko being a useful player.

I would argue the trades he made during the 21-22 TDL helped significantly to propel the team to the ECF.

The trades he made last season were poo poo

Also, the summer Buch was traded Kakko was just coming out of his 2nd professional season. No team is trading a #2 overall pick after 2 seasons. If it happened now and they decided to trade Buch to retain Kakko, I'd agree with you

 

[McRanger92]

Complaining about the GM is nothing but a coping mechanism. Drury is middle of the road until he wins something. It's extremely naive to think any other person in his position would make drastically different moves then he has made. It's just another plot point the increasing number crybabies and know it all's in the Rangers fanbase can point to while the team continues to win games.

Why do 3 smart teams want the worst player in the league?

 

[Guyute]

Nemeth was just as bad if not worse. Both the contract and then trading 2 nds to get rid of him.

Most of the analytics GMs here loved that signing

 

[MrAlmost]

not only that but Drury gave Zib the most restrictive contract in NA sports history and now that he sucks assholes we're absolutely stuck with him with no way out.


No. We're bad at 5 on 5. Drury give Zib that inexcusable contract and he gets to pay the price for it. No one's fault but his. Furthermore, he gave Goodrow a top 3 worst contract in the league in the cap era and refuses to fix it.

Drury honestly sucks but most GMs do.

1 year ago the Z contract was one of the best in hockey for a 1C. Now it's inexcusable? I'm not willing write off Z yet. He is a good player and him and Kreider have been a winning combo for years. They are off this year, oddly when we found 2 other lines to finally work around them.

How are we bad 5v5? Trocheck line and, somehow, Brod line with Kakko are positives. And technically so is the Kreider-Z combo, though not as good as previous years. We have 1 bad line. The 4th line. And yes it is Drurys fault for not trading Goodrow after giving him a bad contract. Can't argue that.

Again. Considering Possession metrics, rate and actual production, 2 lines have been good, 1 has been Jekyll/Hyde and 1 bad. D is pretty much same story. 1 good. 1 bad. 1 in between.

Fox is good. Gus and Schneider are good. Miller and Trouba never seem to line up and play well at the exact same time. Troubas play since Jan 1 is better. But not consistent. Miller same story. Lindgren is the only unsavable D right now. But yeah, it's on Drury, like I said in my post, to trade him for something better. Not move him down the lineup. Get him off the team.

 

[NYR Viper]

I would argue the trades he made during the 21-22 TDL helped significantly to propel the team to the ECF.

The trades he made last season were poo poo

Also, the summer Buch was traded Kakko was just coming out of his 2nd professional season. No team is trading a #2 overall pick after 2 seasons. If it happened now and they decided to trade Buch to retain Kakko, I'd agree with you

I would say that one of the trades was poo poo. The Taraesnko and Mikkola trade was actually solid work.

 

[jay from jersey]

Yes, call me foolish. And I will call you a constant whiner who perpetuates a sky is falling, woe is me, victim mentality around here. The same mantra over and over again. Now we will see several posts of you calling Drury a chump. You seem to have it all figured out RB. You have all the answers. Every other GM is better than ours. Zito, better. Zito makes the best trades (even though they haven’t won shit and were on the cusp of being walked right out of the playoffs in the 1st round just a year ago). Raise that banner for Zito RB. Let’s ignore some of the other moves Zito has made & some of the luck that team has had with Bob finding himself in the playoffs last year because otherwise that team is a mess and irrelevant right now. Giroux trade bad. Vatrano trade, technically bad return for them because he cornered himself. You want to laud Zito (and every other GM) and bash Drury every chance you can. Good for you man.

I am not saying Drury is perfect. Not even saying he is spectacular. But miss me with the worshipping of other GMs who have not won a cup, not to mention a lot of this is a crapshoot. Boston had an incredible team last year and get knocked out in round 1. How many years did it take Colorado to win with that level of talent? Same goes for so many others.

Don’t forget Chabo

 

[McRanger92]

I would say that one of the trades was poo poo. The Taraesnko and Mikkola trade was actually solid work.

No we gave up a 1st round pick (gasp!) and now we have no future. What am i supposed to tell my kids?

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

No matter what else happens, I love you all.

Lies, blasphemer!!!!!

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Get Buch, get Lauzon.

Only give up a 1st, Robertson and Jones.

And lets go to f***ing war!

 

[Fitzy]

No we gave up a 1st round pick (gasp!) and now we have no future. What am i supposed to tell my kids?

Do what the Baby Boomers did and just pretend it was someone else's fault

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Probably a moot point considering the word is he doesn't want to come back. If the Rangers are on his 12 team no trade list, all of this discussion is meaningless because it doesn't matter what Drury is willing to do.

I missed that. Where did you hear that?

 

[Cmox]

Its like a real gdt in here!

 

[Raspewtin]

1 year ago the Z contract was one of the best in hockey for a 1C. Now it's inexcusable? I'm not willing write off Z yet. He is a good player and him and Kreider have been a winning combo for years. They are off this year, oddly when we found 2 other lines to finally work around them.

How are we bad 5v5? Trocheck line and, somehow, Brod line with Kakko are positives. And technically so is the Kreider-Z combo, though not as good as previous years. We have 1 bad line. The 4th line. And yes it is Drurys fault for not trading Goodrow after giving him a bad contract. Can't argue that.

Again. Considering Possession metrics, rate and actual production, 2 lines have been good, 1 has been Jekyll/Hyde and 1 bad. D is pretty much same story. 1 good. 1 bad. 1 in between.

Fox is good. Gus and Schneider are good. Miller and Trouba never seem to line up and play well at the exact same time. Troubas play since Jan 1 is better. But not consistent. Miller same story. Lindgren is the only unsavable D right now. But yeah, it's on Drury, like I said in my post, to trade him for something better. Not move him down the lineup. Get him off the team.

I am more than willing to write him off. He hasn't been even 1st line level at 5 on 5 since 2020. He's a major reason we're so mediocre at ES. He might "look" worse this year but besides his actual scoring, basically everything is the same as last year.

We're bad 5 on 5 because Lindgren and Trouba suck eggs and play more than half the game, and Zibanejad hasn't been above average at ES in 4 years. Goodrow is horrific but a tertiary reason for that, he doesn't play enough to be that bad. My problem is that this is probably going to continue because the org probably thinks Lindgren and Trouba are playing fine. They have no ability to evaluate defense.

I guess that's where a lot of my issues come from. It doesn't seem like Drury thinks they're an issue. He certainly didn't think that about Goodrow which is why against all logic we kept him instead of having him f*** off to wherever. Should've never been signed in the first place, and again, we're dearly paying for it.

Drury doesn't f*** up a lot necessarily but when he makes mistakes, they're huge mistakes and they ripple through multiple seasons. The major example being the Buch trade.