GDT: 2024 TDL thread. Post all trades, rumors, and etc around the league. (TDL, Friday 3/8 @ 3pm ET)

[Avery16]

The move was never about the salary cap.

It was made on the basis that Kakko was mediocre because he didn't have space in the lineup in front of him.

Turns out he's mediocre because he's mediocre.

Nah. If cap and other targets were no issue, we’d have just swapped them in the lineup and see how Kakko did with the extra minutes.

Drury wanted to go tuff and he thought Buch was a waste of money.

 

[Matt Rentfree]

Yeah, I'm of the opinion that they moved Buch because they wanted another look/vibe whatever in the room. Sure Buch loved the guys but I don't think management were enamored with him. Again I know people disagree, but they moved him for peanuts because they were determined to move him.

IMO, that's way less forgivable than if it was done for cap purposes.

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

The move was never about the salary cap.

It was made on the basis that Kakko was mediocre because he didn't have space in the lineup in front of him.

Turns out he's mediocre because he's mediocre.

Nothing they did after the Buch trade suggests the intent was to let the kids sink or swim in the top 6. It was pure cymbal banging monkey stupidity

 

[bhamill]

It's not that simple.

If the cap is 100 mil and our cap hits total 99 mil for the 1st half of the season, we can then have 101 mil in cap hits for the 2nd half of the season.

Also keep in mind that without LTIR, we wouldn't be able to make any moves. Players on LTIR still count against the cap.

My plan is simple. It doesn’t matter what happened with your cap during the regular season. Your active playoff roster, the team you ice, cannot have a total cap hit, going by what their regular full season cap hits were, that totals greater than than the cap limit number for the regular season that just ended. If you have injured players, they don’t count. Only the players you are icing count. If you have an injured player comes back someone else has to come off the active roster to keep you under the cap number.
The cap for this regular season is 83.5 million. You can’t ice 2 goalies and 18 skaters in any playoff game whose cap hits for the regular season exceed 83.5 million. It’s actually a little generous, since most teams have 22-23 roster players that make for the cap.
If you try to put 20 players on the ice that go even a dollar above the cap, you forfeit the game.

 

[MrAlmost]

he sucks and has two more years at 4.5m

He is actually quite good and a pain in the ass and good 5v5. I would bet if we met the Canes in the playoffs he would have a chip on his shoulder. Watching him in Carolina he is a firery player.

 

[Machinehead]

Nah. If cap and other targets were no issue, we’d have just swapped them in the lineup and see how Kakko did with the extra minutes.

Drury wanted to go tuff and he thought Buch was a waste of money.

You can't just re-sign a guy to a UFA contract and then put him on the third line. That's a bigger waste of assets than what he actually did.

 

[Crease]

They traded Buch because they wanted more North American ruggedness. What they didn’t realize at the time is that Buch is as red blooded American as they come.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Intermission Kaplan

Connect Toffoli to Kings

Devils still trying on Markstrom, bare minimum a veteran goaltender tomorrow in a trade.

Buch she connected Rangers and Vegas, but more seemed like it was those teams missed on Guentzel.

Are you sure? Can’t find anything on Twitter about her saying this

 

[McRanger92]

The move was never about the salary cap.

It was made on the basis that Kakko was mediocre because he didn't have space in the lineup in front of him.

Turns out he's mediocre because he's mediocre.

You have said the actual truth

 

[IDvsEGO]

actually not that large since Guentzels first season in 2016-17.


16 goals, 24 assists in 38 games without Crosby in his career.

Now try without Crosby and Malkin? Because aho isn’t even prime Malkin.

 

[17futurecap]

Are you sure? Can’t find anything on Twitter about her saying this

Yea, it was a discussion about the Blues players available, but it was something like could we see the Rangers or Vegas go after Buch after missing on Guentzel.

 

[Machinehead]

Nothing they did after the Buch trade suggests the intent was to let the kids sink or swim in the top 6. It was pure cymbal banging monkey stupidity

This is just untrue. Kakko was immediately put into the top six and consistently ranked in the top six among our forwards in ice time since the trade.

Kakko has seen plenty of ice time. The narrative that he hasn't is just a combination of cope and line numbering.

 

[irishlaxburger2]

Reaves (1.75) + Goodrow (3.64) + Nemeth (2.5) = 7.9 million

Buchnevich (5.8) + League minimum bum (750k) + league minimum bum (750k)= 7.3 million

The amount of stupid moves Drury has made - particularly involving 1RW - all because he’s held onto Barclay Goodrow is the definition of poor asset management.

The opportunity cost incurred by keeping his contract has been absolutely bonkers.

 

[Tob]

They traded Buch because they wanted more North American ruggedness. What they didn’t realize at the time is that Buch is as red blooded American as they come.

its always been my musing that Buch was seen as soft by Dolan after the Wilson incident and trading Buch was one of the things to reform the team's softness.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

Are you sure? Can’t find anything on Twitter about her saying this

I was watching too, Emily did say that, along with a plea to @will1066 to text her back

 

[Avery16]

You can't just re-sign a guy to a UFA contract and then put him on the third line. That's a bigger waste of assets than what he actually did.

You said cap wasn’t the issue. Which is it?

And no, it isn’t worse at all. We’ve been trying to fill that hole ever since, and it’s cost a lot more.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Buchnevich
Kane
Tarasenko
Hayes
Zuccarello
Duclair
Vatrano


Any of those guys would be welcome RW additions right about now...

 

[will1066]

I was watching too, Emily did say that, along with a plea to @will1066 to text her back

She's with @DanielBrassard now

 

[DanielBrassard]

She's with @DanielBrassard now

No you can have her back, she’s disappointed me today.

 

[Machinehead]

You said cap wasn’t the issue. Which is it?

And no, it isn’t worse at all. We’ve been trying to fill that hole ever since, and it’s cost a lot more.

It absolutely would be an issue if you signed Buchnevich to his deal and immediately demoted him. Value is everything.

Goodrow makes peanuts and everyone hates his contract. Fox is the second highest paid player on the team and not a word. Value provided is everything.

As dumb as GM's can be, nobody is dumb enough to sign that contract and then immediately play the guy 15 minutes a game.

 

[Matt Rentfree]

She's with @DanielBrassard now

She'll do a devil's 3-way if you ask nicely.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Are you sure? Can’t find anything on Twitter about her saying this

He wouldn’t make it up.

I’d rather Buch than Jake but I don’t like this either.

 

[will1066]

No you can have her back, she’s disappointed me today.

Oh, gee, that'd be swell, mister!

 

[lakeshirts37]

Now try without Crosby and Malkin? Because aho isn’t even prime Malkin.

moving the goalposts I see

 

[mandiblesofdoom]

They traded Buch because they wanted more North American ruggedness. What they didn’t realize at the time is that Buch is as red blooded American as they come.

The crosscheck of Marchand was ... [chef's kiss]