Red Sox/MLB 2024 Spring Training Part 4: - Ownership seems content with another last place finish in 2024

[Chevalier du Clavier]

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Ha ha

What the heck was he thinking

He basically melted down

Full throttle is dumb but calling your fans liars is product suicide

He will try to walk back I bet

I’m glad they are stepping in it

They have been stepping in it for quite awhile now.

 

[McGarnagle]

What a world when Jeremy Jacobs & Delaware North is only the third-most unlikable ownership group in Boston

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

What a world when Jeremy Jacobs & Delaware North is only the third-most unlikable ownership group in Boston

Hard salary cap did wonders

 

[Mr Cartmenez]

One thing I will never buy is "we don't think we're in a position to spend because we're waiting on our young players to develop". That is complete nonsense. If you're spending money on a prized free agent it's gonna be a lengthy contract and a player who immediately makes you better. The idea should be that in 2-3 years that free agent is still producing AND now your young players are contributing. It's just a complete BS line of thinking from management of any team. An excuse to not spend.

It's not ideal to have players in their prime on a team that isn't a true contender, but it's not ideal to stop spending like a top 3 (what they according to forbes still are) franchise, either.

The Rangers did spend on a team that was in last place and it worked out for them eventually, they just needed their young core to arrive.
The Mets got laughed at for spending like drunken sailors and then not making the playoffs, but their spending still led to them acquiring top prospects by getting rid of the old stars.

This was the year to go after pitching, the next off-seasons will not feature that many great arms. And these that are available like Burnes, will be coveted by more teams.

Where does the pitching come from in the future? Teams rarely deal them away even when they are on one year deals (i.e. Burnes, Bieber) and the farm won't produce much in that regard.

 

[DKH]

I’d still work to get Montgomery but of course not giving Boras that ridiculous contract

You can’t have all these prospects grow up like Buffalo Sabres prospects in a losing environment

 

[GatorMike]

You can’t have all these prospects grow up like Buffalo Sabres prospects in a losing environment

 

[Chevalier du Clavier]

 

[DKH]

Baltimore lost 100 games multiple times

Boston could not survive the Orioles last decade

2018 115 losses
2019 108 losses
2020 covid but they sucked
2021 110 losses

Even in 2023 they got swept round 1

The Red Sox would be dead if they did this

They could probably sign Montgomery & Duvall and win 85 games and it would still be crap

 

[GatorMike]

Baltimore lost 100 games multiple times

2018 115 losses
2019 108 losses
2020 covid but they sucked
2021 110 losses

So, what you're telling me is that Baltimore's prospects grew up in a losing environment?

 

[Morris Wanchuk]

I hope Casas lives up to the hype machine. He is the kind of personality this team needs.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

and got smoked 3-0 in the playoffs

 

[GatorMike]

and got smoked 3-0 in the playoffs

OK... I'm not sure I understand your point.

Are you suggesting that developing in a losing environment caused them to lose all three playoff games after they won 100 regular season games?

 

[DKH]

So, what you're telling me is that Baltimore's prospects grew up in a losing environment?

Good point

I’m no longer concerned if Red Sox lose 100-115 games if picking top of draft they can get Rutschman & Holiday

Might be beneficial to get rid of all vets and get a couple of 45-117

People will be mad but time will go by fast

 

[GatorMike]

Good point

I’m no longer concerned if Red Sox lose 100-115 games if picking top of draft they can get Rutschman & Holiday

Might be beneficial to get rid of all vets and get a couple of 45-117

People will be mad but time will go by fast

I make a point about how the damage done to a prospect that "grows up in a losing environment" might be a bit overstated, and suddenly I want the Red Sox to lose 117 games?

 

[Johnnyduke]

At this point I would prefer the embarrassment for ownership of a 70 win season than the middling .500 record as you rack up last place finishes in a good division. So if you were to tell me the Sox will go 81-81 and finish in last again, f that. Lose more games at that point.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

One thing I will never buy is "we don't think we're in a position to spend because we're waiting on our young players to develop". That is complete nonsense. If you're spending money on a prized free agent it's gonna be a lengthy contract and a player who immediately makes you better. The idea should be that in 2-3 years that free agent is still producing AND now your young players are contributing. It's just a complete BS line of thinking from management of any team. An excuse to not spend.

Read something on the Yankees recently and they didn't go for Sale because they didn't think they were there yet. That was 2017. Yankees lost in 7 in the ACLS... COst themselves a title prob

 

[Bruinaura]

I liked him as a player.... hope for the best

 

[GatorMike]

 

[Johnnyduke]

Dodgers swooping in to take our leftover scraps...can't even let us dream about the return of James Paxton.

 

[CDJ]

Dodgers talking to Paxton (1/12 is the rumor)

I’m gonna be furious when he pitches to a 2.80 ERA over 150 innings next year

 

[Mione134]

Dodgers talking to Paxton (1/12 is the rumor)

I’m gonna be furious when he pitches to a 2.80 ERA over 150 innings next year

Oh its gonna happen

 

[CDJ]

The rare positive news lately

 

[McGarnagle]

Tony Mazz left Beltre off his HoF ballot.

Dipshit.

 

[DKH]

Dodgers swooping in to take our leftover scraps...can't even let us dream about the return of James Paxton.

It’s right out of the Grinch Stole Christmas taking a crumb of cheese from the Whoville mouse