FrankerC
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Yeah - I think this is more Bill interviewing them than them interviewing Bill. Bill needs no introduction or pitch. He is who he is.
Patriots/NFL 2024 Playoffs Part 2: Pats have 3rd pick. Mayo new HC. Where does Belichick land? Bill O'Brien to leave Patriots for Ohio State OC job
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Bocephus86
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He's interviewing the teams, not the other way around IMO.
Maybe I'm reading too much into this but that reads as MHJ to me, or that LT if MHJ goes 1 or 2 somehow. The best QB in the draft will be off the board at 3.
Oates2Neely
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I’m guessing he goes 1. Still a wildcard as is always the case with a 1st round QB.
I’ve read Williams comparisons from Mahomes to Fields to Tyrod Taylor. Risky business. He seems like a talented player. I can’t ignore the red flags however. It’s been suggested his camp made it known he’d want a stake in the team who drafts him. Yes he cried in his mom’s lap on national tv because he lost a game. He paints his fingernails before every game. Not major red flags but he doesn’t scream LEADER imo.
Oates2Neely
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& they can respond by showing him a print out of his record without Brady
Therick67
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For the Falcons, that's an upgrade..
DKH
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Patriots coaching staff all vanished in team web site other than Mayo
Front office as well other than Wolf who should end up GM & Groh - who should end up dir of scouting
Front office as well other than Wolf who should end up GM & Groh - who should end up dir of scouting
NFL network said wolf would be in demand if not given GM title
Front office as well other than Wolf who should end up GM & Groh - who should end up dir of scouting
Front office as well other than Wolf who should end up GM & Groh - who should end up dir of scouting
NFL network said wolf would be in demand if not given GM title
PatriceBergeron
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I’d be shocked if Williams isn’t the #1 pick. He’s now between the -900 and -1000 favorite on different sportsbooks.
I did think that Jayden Daniels was the best QB in college this year and wouldn’t be devastated if the Patriots picked him. My biggest worry is that a lot of his passes at LSU were deep throws to NFL receivers who were wide open.
The athleticism is definitely intriguing, but I worry he might be a Bryce Young level passer that doesn’t translate to the NFL. MHJ is the much safer pick at a position we need to improve drastically anyways.
I did think that Jayden Daniels was the best QB in college this year and wouldn’t be devastated if the Patriots picked him. My biggest worry is that a lot of his passes at LSU were deep throws to NFL receivers who were wide open.
The athleticism is definitely intriguing, but I worry he might be a Bryce Young level passer that doesn’t translate to the NFL. MHJ is the much safer pick at a position we need to improve drastically anyways.
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I hope he’s 1
He’s a diva though
Give me Daniels or Maye but I’m waaaaay more on JD
Maye looked shaky last 2 games
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Good point
He’s got a lot of long time loyalists
Maybe Groh goes but Wolf stays
Wolf dad was a legend and talking heads on NFL Network seem to think he’s a rising star in the Industry
Nothing about Groh though
Therick67
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You'd think if Kraft wanted these guy's, he'd offer them jobs and let them know they aren't waiting to see if they go with Bill. Do you want this job or not..
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I know there are a lot of similarities between Daniels and Burrow (LSU, transfer, won Heisman as 5th yr senior, two 1st rd quality receivers, broke the NCAA passer rating record), but Daniels concerns me a lot more, and that's due to the timing of his breakout.
Burrow broke out in his second year starting. He had less than 40 college pass attempts before he became the starter in 2018. Daniels is much different. He had two full seasons starting (plus the COVID shortened year) before he got to LSU.
I know he's had a ton of development this year, but drafting a super experienced, late college career breakout QB is always going to scare me. With Burrow, at least you could say he didn't have much playing experience, and so was able to improve through that, and could project that he would continue to do so as he got NFL experience. With Daniels, it took him so long to improve (had very similar results over his first 4 years starting with an uptick in accuracy), that I wonder about the NFL adjustment and how much room there is to grow.
I agree. There doesn't seem to be the level of confidence/commitment in Wolf/Groh that there is in Mayo. So it has created uncertainty. I have heard multiple people say that it's common for guys to stay on thru the draft. So who knows if Kraft is really evaluating how these guys do leading up to the draft or if all of a sudden they bring in an outside GM before the draft who has final say. If these guys are unclear on their future I would expect them to go with Bill and then that forces the Patriots hand. It's murky right now though.
Bedard just tweeted about a mass exodus potentially happening. So it would have made more sense for Kraft to just start a search for a head of football operations. Not leave yourself open to Bill taking guys you may have wanted to keep. We'll see. Maybe they have someone lined up all along from outside the organization.
Helmet scouting is the worst thing you can do with college prospects. Maye lost his only nfl level target in Josh Downs to the nfl and the guy who was supposed to replace him Devontez Walker was stuck in an eligibility battle with the ncaa to start the season. The UNC defense also sucked which meant Maye always had to get into shootouts without the weapons to make his job easier. Maye was 10-1 when his teams defense gave up less than 25 points.
How much of Daniels' leap this year is because of him being older, more experienced and more physically developed than who he's competing against? He's a 5th year player compared to Maye who's just finished his 3rd season of college football.
Maye had 1,147 rushing yards and 16 rushing touchdowns the last two seasons. He's a dual threat qb who's the best of the three top qbs at throwing in the middle of the field, can throw off schedule and has the frame to take big hits and is willing to take them to make throws. I'm usually pessimistic about qbs in the draft and Maye has things he needs to work on but i think he's going to be a great nfl qb if he develops. If Washington ranks Daniels and Maye similarly it wouldn't surprise me if the new ownership group wants to create the biggest buzz in the area and take Daniels for the same reason the Atlanta Hawks took Trae Young and a first round pick over Luka Doncic.
Not sure what you're getting at. I'm not uncomfortable and I didn't say I didn't agree with the things that May said re the DEI / Race / Youth:generational stuff. What I said is he kept it to that and "collaborating / teaching" when numerous times the question was : (paraphrasing ...) "what will be the identity of the Patriots?" That's a simple question and one that was never answered by either side as they reverted to talking about his style and coaching approach.
Lot's of unnecessary tension around this whole thing and I feel it's fair to say Mayo missed the tackle on the simple question of what is the Pats identity under him as leader and coach. If you're reading something else into it then may I say you missed my point.
I agree with that, I would love it if the Pats could somehow trade to get both Maye and MHJ, even giving the #35 and next year's 1st as part of it, if that cannot be done, then I would take Maye if he slips to #3, if he and Williams are gone, then take MHJ and either trade for another 1st or take someone like Bo Nix at #35 and sign a UFA maybe Mayfield or Minshew and let Nix watch for a year and learn the pro game, like the Packers did when Rogers backed up Favre.
There's only unecessary tension because some people just can't handle what was said.
He said nothing wrong.
I chalk up some of his incomplete answers to only being on the job a week and trying to get personnel in place to then determine the identity of the team.
There are a lot of unknows right now and people need to be patient.
Maybe I missed parts of the presser but the only thing I heard Mayo say was that he sees race. Didn't bother me in the least. The only thing that was uncomfortable about it was it came RIGHT after his owner saying he is color blind. That's all. He basically said the owner is incapable of seeing racism. Maybe he didn't mean Robert specifically but that's what was ultimately said. Not uncomfortable for me but may have been for Robert.
Oates2Neely
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Chicago: Caleb Williams
Washington: Drake Maye
New England: ………
Hard to pass on Harrison Jr there. Assuming they take Jayden Daniels at 3, is he ready to start next season? If not, who starts? If he IS ready to start, who does the team add at WR? Calvin Ridley?
Washington: Drake Maye
New England: ………
Hard to pass on Harrison Jr there. Assuming they take Jayden Daniels at 3, is he ready to start next season? If not, who starts? If he IS ready to start, who does the team add at WR? Calvin Ridley?
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i was there. Basically no one sat down for the entire game. Also, if you remember Indy hadn't punted in the playoffs before that game. First time the punter comes out (in the end zone where we were sitting), my friend screams "Snap it over his head!"
f***ing amazing.
Edit: This sounds dumb if you don't remember what the snapper then did.
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Mayo was ordained by Robert Kraft to be next head-coach-in-waiting five years ago and partly based on good vibes Robert was having in his head at the time. Vrabel the more experienced replacement no doubt but the team handcuffed. Another four-win season and Foxboro Follies but the remix.
Robert Kraft knew 5 years ago Jerod Mayo would become the next Patriots head coach
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I don't think any rookie QB will be ready to start for us next year, nor should be prepared to do that. Unlike Stroud in Houston, we got nothing. No weapons on offense. A shit o-line. We need to level up those positions first and that means adding a dynamic, a f***ing DYNAMIC WR for our future. I don't touch a QB I'm the top 3. You draft MHJ period. Then a QB I'm the latter rounds. Sign a vet. Take this year to bolster the offense. That should be the path and plan.
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