Patriots/NFL 2024 Playoffs Part 2: Pats have 3rd pick. Mayo new HC. Where does Belichick land? Bill O'Brien to leave Patriots for Ohio State OC job

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DKH

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My takeaway besides ‘Thunder’ was Mayo blueprint

Smart, tough, dependable players

No complainers and finger pointers

Surround yourself with good people

Boom!!!!!!
 

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My takeaway besides ‘Thunder’ was Mayo blueprint

Smart, tough, dependable players

No complainers and finger pointers

Surround yourself with good people

Boom!!!!!!
Yes. He said a lot of good things. We still have no idea if he can be the head coach of an NFL team or not. We will have to wait and see.
 
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CDJ

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if Caleb Williams is there at 3 and they pass they are going to be in the basement for a decade. Or at least until a new regime is in place. Because that would be an all time terrible decision and you can’t trust the people who made it

Idc if he cries with his mom.
 

DKH

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Yes. He said a lot of good things. We still have no idea if he can be the head coach of an NFL team or not. We will have to wait and see.
The biggest takeaway listening to them is a QB at 3 seems likely

Both QB here probably need to go

Smart, tough, dependable - team that is accountable and enjoys playing together

That his mantra

the Winnipeg Jets are showing what a team with a good not great roster can do when happy and have a common goal

Wheeler seems to be a bigger problem in room then thought
 
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My takeaway besides ‘Thunder’ was Mayo blueprint

Smart, tough, dependable players

No complainers and finger pointers


Surround yourself with good people

Boom!!!!!!

Has any coach literally ever said anything else?

"I want dumb, weak, undependable players who complain all the time and blame everyone else."

if Caleb Williams is there at 3 and they pass they are going to be in the basement for a decade. Or at least until a new regime is in place. Because that would be an all time terrible decision and you can’t trust the people who made it

Idc if he cries with his mom.

I will legit be stunned if Caleb doesn't go first.
 

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There is no one way to go about this. The Niners built up roster and found a functional QB as Mr. Irrelevant. They wasted a ton of draft capital on all time bust Trey Lance.

Packers and Chiefs drafted QB in mid to late first round and let them sit behind veteran starter.

Lions received a cast-off QB from Rams.

Sure, if you think you have a franchise QB at #3 you 100% take the QB. But if you have doubts don't force it. Take MHJ.

if Caleb Williams is there at 3 and they pass they are going to be in the basement for a decade. Or at least until a new regime is in place. Because that would be an all time terrible decision and you can’t trust the people who made it

Idc if he cries with his mom.
People say stuff like this about QBs all the time. But the fact of the matter is more often than not you're gonna draft a QB who turns out to be a bust.
 

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Has any coach literally ever said anything else?

"I want dumb, weak, undependable players who complain all the time and blame everyone else."



I will legit be stunned if Caleb doesn't go first.
The only thing that he doesn’t have is prototypical size, and even then he’s not so small that it will hurt him. I bet he’s going 1 too. He’s been under a microscope for years and the only thing people have on him is that he cried with his mom after a tough loss. Nothing about his actual play.
 
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DKH

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Has any coach literally ever said anything else?

"I want dumb, weak, undependable players who complain all the time and blame everyone else."



I will legit be stunned if Caleb doesn't go first.
Let’s see how plays out - we were cancelling seats now keeping

I’ve been a fan of Mayo since at Tennessee so I’m kinda excited about this lol
 

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There is no one way to go about this. The Niners built up roster and found a functional QB as Mr. Irrelevant. They wasted a ton of draft capital on all time bust Trey Lance.

Packers and Chiefs drafted QB in mid to late first round and let them sit behind veteran starter.

Lions received a cast-off QB from Rams.

Sure, if you think you have a franchise QB at #3 you 100% take the QB. But if you have doubts don't force it. Take MHJ.


People say stuff like this about QBs all the time. But the fact of the matter is more often than not you're gonna draft a QB who turns out to be a bust.

The chances of this org building a superteam and elevating a middling QB are zero. SF also ha zero rings lately. They need a franchise QB. You can find WR talent. Remind me where St Brown, Godwin, Puka, Deebo were drafted. Justin Jefferson was a late 1st. MHJ will look like a bust with nobody to throw him the ball.
 
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The chances of this org building a superteam and elevating a middling QB are zero. SF also ha zero rings lately. They need a franchise QB. You can find WR talent. Remind me where St Brown, Godwin, Puka, Deebo were drafted. Justin Jefferson was a late 1st. MHJ will look like a bust with nobody to throw him the ball.

The question is, who is picking the players? They need someone in this organization with some offensive acumen. We went from a defensive coach, to a defensive coach.

I like Mayo, I'm just not sure the timing is right for things to go well.
 

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The only thing that he doesn’t have is prototypical size, and even then he’s not so small that it will hurt him. I bet he’s going 1 too. He’s been under a microscope for years and the only thing people have on him is that he cried with his mom after a tough loss. Nothing about his actual play.
Even if you base it on stats or play, there is a better chance he is a bust. Now, that's not to say it will be him. Maybe the bust will be Maye. Or Daniels. I think it's just important to remember that the odds all three of those guys turn into franchise QBs is extremely low.

Given the Not For Long nature of the NFL, does Jerod Mayo want to hitch his wagon to a rookie QB? Or is he more interested in shooting for a veteran QB and MHJ? Of course at the moment we have no idea on that. Don't have to look any further than Bryce Young, an undersized QB who could end up a total bust.

The chances of this org building a superteam and elevating a middling QB are zero. SF also ha zero rings lately. They need a franchise QB. You can find WR talent. Remind me where St Brown, Godwin, Puka, Deebo were drafted. Justin Jefferson was a late 1st. MHJ will look like a bust with nobody to throw him the ball.
Well we also have zero proof the current people in charge know how to evaluate/pick WRs either. They get some credit for Douglas but that's about it.
 

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The question is, who is picking the players? They need someone in this organization with some offensive acumen. We went from a defensive coach, to a defensive coach.

I like Mayo, I'm just not sure the timing is right for things to go well.

Pats are picking 3, sure no top pick is a sure thing but I'd pull out all the stop to make sure they get a chance to make one of these top pick QB's is a Patriot. They hit the QB it can make any coach look good very quickly just like in Houston
 

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I think there's similarities with Caleb Williams and Trevor Lawrence. Both given the generational tag early into their college career but their final season most people expected a bigger jump. The difference with Caleb is he has some personality traits that people don't like and Drake Maye is a better prospect than any qb in Lawrence's draft.


If Cam Ward had entered the draft, he would have been an interesting guy with a lot of tools to take in the middle rounds and have sit behind a bridge qb while you go bpa, but he chose to transfer to Miami. I'm not sold on Daniels as a passer at the nfl level but the value of the qb is so great.
 

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I wouldn't put it past Aaron Rodgers to push Woody Johnson to make a run at Belichick. Maybe Bill hates the Jets so much he would never do it. But getting fired by the Patriots? Hmmm...
 

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I think there's similarities with Caleb Williams and Trevor Lawrence. Both given the generational tag early into their college career but their final season most people expected a bigger jump. The difference with Caleb is he has some personality traits that people don't like and Drake Maye is a better prospect than any qb in Lawrence's draft.


If Cam Ward had entered the draft, he would have been an interesting guy with a lot of tools to take in the middle rounds and have sit behind a bridge qb while you go bpa, but he chose to transfer to Miami. I'm not sold on Daniels as a passer at the nfl level but the value of the qb is so great.

I doubt Williams falls to 3 and I'm not sold on Maye. He took a big step back in a mediocre conference. 63% comp%, 3600 yds and 24 td to 9 int isnt good in the ACC, he's too similar to Trubisky for me to trust a UNC QB. IMO Daniels is a HR pick at 3. 3800 passing yards, 1000 rushing yards, 50 total TD to only 4 INT in the SEC.
 

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2nd interview for Bill in Atlanta.

Done deal.

Similar to Brady going to the Bucs, that blows that he is going to the Falcons.

Now we wait and see if the Patriots were playing the waiting game to see if Bill takes people like Matt Groh with him.
 

Johnnyduke

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Shouldn't an interview with Bill Belichick basically be him tossing his Super Bowl rings on the table and saying, "There's my f***ing resume."
Ya it's probably just him telling Arthur Blank what he needs or who he will be bringing in.

Not sure it matters but since people like to call media members mouthpieces, Ian Rappaport has long been Bill's mouthpiece.
 
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