Patriots/NFL 2024 Playoffs Part 2: Pats have 3rd pick. Mayo new HC. Where does Belichick land? Bill O'Brien to leave Patriots for Ohio State OC job

[KrejciMVP]

just too much backstabbing the last fews years within pats org to trust much. Miss the days when they were a team and preached team

 

[Johnnyduke]

just too much backstabbing the last fews years within pats org to trust much. Miss the days when they were a team and preached team

So I do think today was a little weird in that shots were taken at Bill and even current players. Some subtle some not so subtle. But specifically to Bill, I don't think there was a need to try and revisit everything that went wrong or was done poorly.

 

[UncleRico]

Tom E Curran doesn’t even know what’s going on. He had countless incorrect takes as well this year.

He also said Belichick would be fired in Germany and then a few weeks ago said the pats would try to trade Belichick.

He had 50 different takes so not hard for one of them to finally hit.

 

[GordonHowe]

It was running the Patriots like they do their paper company. With love and a sense of family!

I will allow for the possibility here that they are simply letting the current staff work thru the draft (that is common) and will then look to add someone from the outside. We'll see. I will also allow for the fact Mayo could end up making good outside hires for his coaching staff.

I don't think Robert Kraft is a good speaker. It's corny and not very direct in answering questions. A lot of story telling. Hopefully behind the scenes the organization is a little more ruthless. Maybe that's Jonathan and why they didn't want him up there today.


Oh man I don't think that's even close. Jonathan Kraft 100 out of 100. I say that because it appears Jonathan led the charge to replace Bill which was absolutely needed. I don't get the sense Charlie has that in him. To me he just lets Cam and Don do everything. Now, maybe I'm wrong and that the only reason Charlie doesn't do anything is because he hasn't had to interject himself to address a floundering organization.

He did in 2006.

The old man charged Charlie with bringing in new management after they kicked Sinden to the curb.

Peter Chiarelli.

The results speak for themselves.

Unless the Bruins somehow crater, Charlie will not be involved in hockey decisions.

That might change when Mr. Burns hits the exit.

 

[Johnnyduke]

He also said Belichick would be fired in Germany and then a few weeks ago said the pats would try to trade Belichick.

He had 50 different takes so not hard for one of them to finally hit.

He did not say Belichick would be fired IN Germany. He said that a decision had been made to fire him after the season. Everyone speculated about whether the Pats could get compensation for him instead of simply firing him. Either way they were moving on.

 

[Oates2Neely]

So I do think today was a little weird in that shots were taken at Bill and even current players. Some subtle some not so subtle. But specifically to Bill, I don't think there was a need to try and revisit everything that went wrong or was done poorly.

Very awkward press conference. Mayo seems like a good guy but he was trying to hard to seem the polar opposite of Bill. Hope he settles in soon. Between the potshots at Bill, talk of squats, gardening, racism, the entire press conference seemed rushed and awkward.

 

[BernieMcAvoy]

 

[Therick67]

So I do think today was a little weird in that shots were taken at Bill and even current players. Some subtle some not so subtle. But specifically to Bill, I don't think there was a need to try and revisit everything that went wrong or was done poorly.

Especially when they had unprecedented success with Bill and they could have fired him at any point had they chosen to do so.

I think Mayo taking shots at his own players was interesting.

I think Bob feels like just moving on from Bill will make things right again, but I’m not so sure about that.

 

[DKH]

hopefully everyone is rooting for bradys bucs

He’s a minority owner in Vegas Raiders

 

[Therick67]

Very awkward press conference. Mayo seems like a good guy but he was trying to hard to seem the polar opposite of Bill. Hope he settles in soon. Between the potshots at Bill, talk of squats, gardening, racism, the entire press conference seemed rushed and awkward.

that and they didn’t have a lot of answers about how things would work going forward. You had this succession plan in place for a year and that’s all you had?

 

[McGarnagle]

Uhhhhhh

 

[DKH]

Watching NFL Netw

He also said Belichick would be fired in Germany and then a few weeks ago said the pats would try to trade Belichick.

He had 50 different takes so not hard for one of them to finally hit.

can you post the link

 

[EvilDead]

He did in 2006.

The old man charged Charlie with bringing in new management after they kicked Sinden to the curb.

Peter Chiarelli.

The results speak for themselves.

Unless the Bruins somehow crater, Charlie will not be involved in hockey decisions.

That might change when Mr. Burns hits the exit.

I fear that Charlie boy is no different to Montgomery Burns and Smithers up in the owner's box.

It's why, even though he's a hot head Harvardite, I have more faith in Jonathan Kraft to right things with the Patriots than Charlie Jacobs with the Bruins.

 

[CDJ]

Idc if she’s handling stuff like branding/etc, she sure as shit better not have anything to do with personnel

 

[EvilDead]

Yeah, me too. I think he's far more capable of being a good owner than Charlie, but I also think Jonathan's floor is lower because of his temper.

He's certainly more volatile because of his anger and his ego. It's why I hope the old man holds on for just a bit longer so that Jonathan can get some sense drilled into his head. That said...even with that taken into account, I am a lot more confident with Jonathan Kraft at the helm than the other possibilities. Especially given how a team like the Colts is ran by someone like Jim Irsay.

 

[EvilDead]

Idc if she’s handling stuff like branding/etc, she sure as shit better not have anything to do with personnel

She sounds like an administration hire based on her previous experiences.

 

[Therick67]

She’s now the senior advisor to the head coach. What is she advising him on?

 

[EverettMike]

After mulling it over and looking at everything that happened the last 7 hours I think today was a f***ing disaster and we should all be very, very worried.

 

[Mione134]

I actually think Curran's report was dead on because Jonathan was the one who told him and Jonathan made this decision/convinced his dad.

And it that's true, I'll thank Jonathan this  one time, because Bill had to go

 

[Johnnyduke]

Uhhhhhh

She sounds like a Jack Easterby. Nobody has any idea how they end up in their position of power but there they are ready to strike!

 

[GordonHowe]

I fear that Charlie boy is no different to Montgomery Burns and Smithers up in the owner's box.

It's why, even though he's a hot head Harvardite, I have more faith in Jonathan Kraft to right things with the Patriots than Charlie Jacobs with the Bruins.

I think Charlie is different than his father. Remember, he went to BC. He knows what people think of the old man.

I think he cares.

I also think Jonathan Kraft is a shithead.

A bathetic fool from "Succession."

 

[UncleRico]

He did not say Belichick would be fired IN Germany. He said that a decision had been made to fire him after the season. Everyone speculated about whether the Pats could get compensation for him instead of simply firing him. Either way they were moving on.

Before the Indy game he was speculating that Indy could be BBs last game as pats HC. Once that didn’t happen he changed tune.

 

[bb74]

Well, gotta hope Mayo is all he is said to be as a coach, leader and person to take over the Pats coaching group. That intro went a bit sideways a few time with:

Kraft showing the age and shooting from the hip on this move not knowing how to backstop the front office as a whole. Just came across as unprepared, and oblivious that he and the overall front office have expectations. I don't think he is going to like having to bear the criticism if this goes sideways as he just wants the good side of things and to deflect on everyone else (my read).

Mayo making the coaching gig a DEI / Race / Generational achievement without having a clear view on the makeup of the playing style and identity. No doubt he's a good guy and a leader but man he "missed the tackle" there on many occasions emphasising things that are "part" of a culture, but not the entirety of it.

Overall, Mayo's the new hoodie guy so rooting for him and the team to make a bit step forward. Not convinced but let's see with the offseason and the training camp decisions. I don't think Kraft has a whole lot longer to go and the fact this succession plan was half assed it does bear questioning if his own with JK and the other family people is at all prepared. Tough to run family businesses and recruit from within the gene pool and maintain success over time.... Not excited about that next gene pool ownership wave as they all seem to be primadonna jackasses but it's their money (or should I say their mothers' family money that was loaned so RK could do some shady LBO stuff).

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Well, gotta hope Mayo is all he is said to be as a coach, leader and person to take over the Pats coaching group. That intro went a bit sideways a few time with:

Kraft showing the age and shooting from the hip on this move not knowing how to backstop the front office as a whole. Just came across as unprepared, and oblivious that he and the overall front office have expectations. I don't think he is going to like having to bear the criticism if this goes sideways as he just wants the good side of things and to deflect on everyone else (my read).

Mayo making the coaching gig a DEI / Race / Generational achievement without having a clear view on the makeup of the playing style and identity. No doubt he's a good guy and a leader but man he "missed the tackle" there on many occasions emphasising things that are "part" of a culture, but not the entirety of it.

Overall, Mayo's the new hoodie guy so rooting for him and the team to make a bit step forward. Not convinced but let's see with the offseason and the training camp decisions. I don't think Kraft has a whole lot longer to go and the fact this succession plan was half assed it does bear questioning if his own with JK and the other family people is at all prepared. Tough to run family businesses and recruit from within the gene pool and maintain success over time.... Not excited about that next gene pool ownership wave as they all seem to be primadonna jackasses but it's their money (or should I say their mothers' family money that was loaned so RK could do some shady LBO stuff).

As someone who knows him, Danny Kraft is as far from a primadonna jackass as you could possibly get.

 

[bb74]

As someone who knows him, Danny Kraft is as far from a primadonna jackass as you could possibly get.

Good to hear. So he's the Ying to Jonathan's Yang? In any case RK looks old, sounds old, is old; and I'd expect another face to the ownership in short order as I can't see him taking the heat at his age for a floundering franchise without someone to lay it on.