You could make an argument that Suter’s penalties lost us the series. The refs didn’t help, but he didn’t either. I’m all for jumping ship.
Speculation: 2024 Offseason Talk
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I think they need to identify who the core guys are and who is untouchable and build around them. Johnston, Heiskanen and Oettinger for sure are untouchable. Harley and Stankoven are right up there with them. Robertson, Hintz and Lindell are part of that core group.
This team does need an It guy. Someone who teams have to game plan around and someone who can take over a game. Wyatt seems like he can get there. But they need more playoff style guys. Too many disappeared.
Anybody in the trade market of interest?
What is Guentzel looking for in a contract? He would be amazing as he is a proven playoff guy.
This team does need an It guy. Someone who teams have to game plan around and someone who can take over a game. Wyatt seems like he can get there. But they need more playoff style guys. Too many disappeared.
Anybody in the trade market of interest?
What is Guentzel looking for in a contract? He would be amazing as he is a proven playoff guy.
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Id love for us to acquire Guentz and I think it’s possible. With the money we’re shedding from Pavs/Duchene, they can throw it at Guentz.
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They need speed. This was a slow team this year. Hintz can't be our only burner. Yes you need physicality in the playoffs but we can't grind our way to a cup. Get some burners and versatility on the roster.
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Only thing is, I really wonder what kind of deal he is looking for. I'm guessing the 5-7 year range at $7-8m+. He's gonna be looking to get paid no doubt.
He'd probably be my #1 choice when it comes to free agents but idk. He'd fit really nicely in our top 6 and with our playstyle.
I also think Stamkos would be nice but doubt he leaves Tampa and not sure how great he'd be for us in the playoffs, but if he wants to sign a 2-3 year Pavelski type deal that's not the worst thing in the world. Someone will overpay him too though if he hits the market and probably will also give him 4+ year term which is not ideal.
Plenty of former Cup winners to choose from in free agency. Imo we need at least 1 of them.
Nice thing is, most of them are really good goal scorers.
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I wasn’t going to say it since I’m a Suter apologist, but Suter had a solid first two rounds. And to your point, he is 39. The defense was cooked by Game 6. Heiskanen got walked by McDavid, Tanev had a turnover that led to a goal. It’s not his fault they weren’t on the same page about Nils- or didn’t have a backup plan. I understand he hasn’t brought the same level of production as Pavelski, but if were giving him a pass for being old Suter should get slack as well.
Which isn’t to say I don’t think he should be bought out. Maybe he should be- but yes, the attitude and thought process of casting him out while giving Pavelski the hero’s welcome kind of sucks.
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Put this thought forward to some fellas, and this goes against my “you can’t change things too much” spiel earlier, but with Hak and Suter leaving, what if you found a way to get two top four D to really go for it? Could put Esa on the third pair with Nils, then suddenly you can roll three pairs. Walk with me-
Miro-Tanev
Harley-Pesce/Roy/So on
Esa-Nils
Petro
Also very with needing a burner that can contribute on the PP. Don’t know the price tag on Nik Ehlers but he’d be perfect.
Miro-Tanev
Harley-Pesce/Roy/So on
Esa-Nils
Petro
Also very with needing a burner that can contribute on the PP. Don’t know the price tag on Nik Ehlers but he’d be perfect.
If we signed Tanev and Pesce/Roy/So on, what kinda space would we have left for a forward? Ehlers would be a fantastic get.
That’s above my pay grade and I’d have to play around on capfriendly, but if you’re bridging Harley it feels doable with some buy in from whoever you’re signing on a team friendly deal. Could put us in a bind with RFAs later though.
BrettHullsToe
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Learn from history or be doomed to repeat it.*
*Link is for a Vegas reddit thread about PDB after the Knight's 2nd straight WCF loss. If you did word substitutions of Vegas->Dallas and Knights->Stars, it would apply perfectly to our current situation. I guess we'll see if we miss the playoffs next season?
*Link is for a Vegas reddit thread about PDB after the Knight's 2nd straight WCF loss. If you did word substitutions of Vegas->Dallas and Knights->Stars, it would apply perfectly to our current situation. I guess we'll see if we miss the playoffs next season?
Frozen Failure
They got business in my hockey, and I hate it.
I want to keep Pete but god damn I want Spott gone. Keeping him feels like a guarantee that you are going to badly lose a special teams battle in the playoffs once you go up against a competent and aggressive PK.
that was such trash from him. ignore the sport 99% of the time and then try to come in with hard hitting questions so he sounds tough and knowledgeable.
Frozen Failure
They got business in my hockey, and I hate it.
I think their powerplay was just too predictable and they were trying to force things that weren't going to happen with how aggressive the Oilers were playing. A distinct lack of puck poise all around.
I think it is 100% on the coaching staff for not adapting to the pressure every year.
And the Cowlishaw thing... he's a shockjock at this point.
I think it is 100% on the coaching staff for not adapting to the pressure every year.
And the Cowlishaw thing... he's a shockjock at this point.
NJ fan who lives in the Dallas TV market coming in peace.
I have watched Stars hockey for years at this point.
Obviously you folks are bitterly disappointed and rightfully so.
Still, keep your heads up. Your team battled hard and gained valuable experience.
Your team is top notch and only going to get better.
Guys like Johnston and Stankoven and Harley are clearly just getting started.
Otter Heiskanen and Robertson may all have a bit of improvement left in them.
You have tough veterans and can play any way the other team wants.
If Florida is the league's deepest team the Stars are right there with them.
Congrats on a great season and you will have many more to cheer for in the next 10 years.
I have watched Stars hockey for years at this point.
Obviously you folks are bitterly disappointed and rightfully so.
Still, keep your heads up. Your team battled hard and gained valuable experience.
Your team is top notch and only going to get better.
Guys like Johnston and Stankoven and Harley are clearly just getting started.
Otter Heiskanen and Robertson may all have a bit of improvement left in them.
You have tough veterans and can play any way the other team wants.
If Florida is the league's deepest team the Stars are right there with them.
Congrats on a great season and you will have many more to cheer for in the next 10 years.
Do we think there is any possibility of trading for a burner? Or are we too close with a solid group that the risk won't be taken.
I'd love to try and get Barzal from the Islanders. Think Dallas has the best top 6 in the league if you put him on the right wing of Robertson and Hintz.
Would cost Borque, a 1st and maybe a player like Marchment. But I would consider doing it.
Sign some of the cheaper RD defenseman, some depth bottom 6 then go all in.
Pie in the sky thinking but man how good would this line-up be
Robertson-Hintz-Barzal
Benn-Johnston-Stankoven
Xx-Seguin-Dadonov
Steel-Faksa-Xx
Harley-Heiskanen
Lindell-xx
Bischel-xx
Oettinger
Probably just a silly season post as the pain is still fresh.
I'd love to try and get Barzal from the Islanders. Think Dallas has the best top 6 in the league if you put him on the right wing of Robertson and Hintz.
Would cost Borque, a 1st and maybe a player like Marchment. But I would consider doing it.
Sign some of the cheaper RD defenseman, some depth bottom 6 then go all in.
Pie in the sky thinking but man how good would this line-up be
Robertson-Hintz-Barzal
Benn-Johnston-Stankoven
Xx-Seguin-Dadonov
Steel-Faksa-Xx
Harley-Heiskanen
Lindell-xx
Bischel-xx
Oettinger
Probably just a silly season post as the pain is still fresh.
Kcb12345
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It'd be significantly more costly to get Barzal than that I would imagine. Islanders have nothing and nobody to replace him anytime soon.
redbeardtx
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You're smoking crack if you think the Isles would deal Barzal, especially considering who their GM is.
Plus, by the time Lou Lam sends their trade negotiator via horse & wagon through the Oregon Trail, Barzal would already be on the decline or dead from dysentery
IMHO, HE GETS Duchene money, i.e., 1 year at $3 mil, maybe with performance bonuses. Or, 2x$2-2,5
redbeardtx
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Wonder if we could get a LW like Farabee from Philly, then run:
Farabee - Johnston - Stankoven
Not sure how they'd pull it off, but that would be a goodin.
Farabee - Johnston - Stankoven
Not sure how they'd pull it off, but that would be a goodin.
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Don’t quite get the duchesne hate . Didn’t put up numbers in the playoffs but he was one of the guys who i thought was consistently winning races and started a lot of the big momentum swings where we hemmed them in there own zone .Was probably the biggest bargain deal of the regular season . A lot of his downfall I think was due to having pavelski instead of seguin on his line alot in the playoffs . I’d be happy bringing him back cheap .
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I have to do my year end injuries press conference today...give me time
