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Patriots/NFL 2024 Off Season - Mac Jones Traded to Jacksonville - QB Jacoby Brissett signs 1-year contract

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sarge88 said:
I won’t pretend to know a lot about the draft, but from what I’ve read there are a lot of questions about the first round QB’s.

I worry about blowing a 3 overall on a guy who isn’t going to be a top 10 QB in a few years.

Seems like Arizona wants MH2.

If I were the Pats I’d offer 3 and a later pick to Arizona for their 2 first rounders or take MH2 and Penix or Nix and let them develop behind Brissett or Wilson.
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You said you don’t know a lot about the draft but want to trade out ?

Take the QB
 
DKH said:
You said you don’t know a lot about the draft but want to trade out ?

Take the QB
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I said based on what I’ve read none of them seem to be a slam dunk (first 3).

But MH does.

And which QB?

Are they all equal?

Why miss out on what seems to be a near guarantee top 5/10 WR in a few years for a QB that isn’t likely to be that?

Unless they are sure that Maye or Daniels will be a pro bowler.

JRull86 said:
There's a pretty significant gap between Williams and everyone else.

THere's also a pretty big gap between Daniels & Maye, and guys 4-6.

I don't buy the JJ McCarthy hype at all. He's Mac 2.0 to me. Penix is an interesting player, but I doubt he's ever a franchise guy. Bo Nix? Nope.
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I saw a mock or two that had Daniels going later than 4 as well.

Who knows?
 
sarge88 said:
I said based on what I’ve read none of them seem to be a slam dunk (first 3).

But MH does.

And which QB?

Are they all equal?

Why miss out on what seems to be a near guarantee top 5/10 WR in a few years for a QB that isn’t likely to be that?

Unless they are sure that Maye or Daniels will be a pro bowler.



I saw a mock or two that had Daniels going later than 4 as well.

Who knows?
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No player is a guarantee, look up the stud WRs in the NFL and their draft selection spot, you can find them all over the draft.

You can't say the same for QBs
 
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sarge88 said:
I said based on what I’ve read none of them seem to be a slam dunk (first 3).

But MH does.

And which QB?

Are they all equal?

Why miss out on what seems to be a near guarantee top 5/10 WR in a few years for a QB that isn’t likely to be that?

Unless they are sure that Maye or Daniels will be a pro bowler.



I saw a mock or two that had Daniels going later than 4 as well.

Who knows?
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Any mock that doesn't have Daniels in the top 3 is a bad mock from someone who ether has no idea, or wants clicks
 
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sarge88 said:
I said based on what I’ve read none of them seem to be a slam dunk (first 3).

But MH does.

And which QB?

Are they all equal?

Why miss out on what seems to be a near guarantee top 5/10 WR in a few years for a QB that isn’t likely to be that?

Unless they are sure that Maye or Daniels will be a pro bowler.



I saw a mock or two that had Daniels going later than 4 as well.

Who knows?
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Daniels probably going to Washington

They got some good pieces at WR

Williams & Daniels look like high probability of success - I hope so makes the game that much better

There are no sure things

I like Fields and apparently so does his teammates and coaching staff - that’s huge

Right now I’d take Maye if other two gone - Marvin Harrison a luxury item they need a lot

Being retired I watch a bleep load of nfl network shows and lot of nfl front office and players liked Maye all along
 
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How did the Mac Jones era with the New England Patriots go so horribly wrong?​

FOXBOROUGH, MASSACHUSETTS - SEPTEMBER 17: Mac Jones #10 of the New England Patriots reacts during the second half against the Miami Dolphins at Gillette Stadium on September 17, 2023 in Foxborough, Massachusetts. (Photo by Maddie Meyer/Getty Images)

By Steve Buckley
Mar 10, 2024
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So, how did the Mac Jones era with the New England Patriots go so horribly wrong? Perhaps the day will come when we learn it was all Bill Belichick’s fault, thanks to a revelatory 10-part documentary that includes cutaway shots of Patriots owner Robert Kraft riding in on a white horse to stop the insanity.
Until that day comes, let’s call this what it is: A total team effort. Blame Jones for not stepping up. Blame Belichick for stepping in it via that cockamamie plan to hand the offense to Matt Patricia and Joe Judge, two Belichick cronies whose otherwise extensive coaching resumes didn’t include a “Stuff I’ve Done Working With the Offense” page.
Blame the Krafts, blame the talk shows, blame the youth football program back in Jacksonville that provided a stage for little Mac’s first quarterback snaps.
Now I’ll admit divvying up slices of blame pie is too easy, too diplomatic. We all like to have a villain, a bad guy. (I’m picturing a grizzled TV detective, say, Peter Falk from “Columbo,” producing a playbook with Matt Patricia’s fingerprints on it.)
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But to take a step back and watch it all unfold, season by season, game by game, play by play, is to awaken to the reality that it just wasn’t going to work out. Even after Jones’ inaugural 2021 season, when he won all kinds of awards (All-Rookie Team! Pro Bowl alternate! Team record for touchdown passes by a rookie!) there were nagging doubts he wasn’t the guy to return the Patriots to something even close to the Tom Brady years.
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Yes, it was unfair to even think in those terms. Brady, after all, was a singular talent, a Boston sports icon on a par with Ted Williams, Bill Russell, Bobby Orr, Larry Bird and David Ortiz. And considering that Jones’ lone playoff appearance, with the ’21 Pats, was against the Josh Allen-quarterbacked Buffalo Bills (who scored on every offensive possession), this just wasn’t the year for a new New England quarterback to make his bones.
But the 2022 season was, we can all agree, a wire-to-wire mess. Patricia and Judge were running their paint-by-numbers offense, and Jones dissolved into a petulant sideline eye-roller, doing everything in his power to get out his message that “It’s not me.”
Well, it was him. Some of it, anyway. In 2023, the arrival of a for-real offensive coordinator in Bill O’Brien didn’t help Jones settle down, even if it’s a personally acceptable comeback to point out that the ’23 Pats didn’t have a for-real receiving corp. Especially after Belichick, given a choice to either show Jakobi Meyers the money or show him the door, chose the latter.
But, yes, Jones had an epically bad 2023 season, the kind that may still have some Pats fans waking up in a cold sweat in the middle of the night. That little floater he threw into the mitts of the Colts’ Julian Blackmon in Germany could merit a 10-part documentary of its own, except it’d be impossible to blame Belichick this time.

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The Patriots held a nice gathering last month at Gillette Stadium, allowing members of their newly assembled coaching staff to mingle with the media. It was all cake and cookies and fun stories, and it included a message from the new offensive coordinator, Alex Van Pelt, when he was asked if he envisions a scenario in which Mac Jones quarterbacks the Patriots in 2024.
“Really, right now, everything is on the table,” Van Pelt said. “As we go through this process, this last couple weeks, 10 days, have just been diving into who we are, trying to evaluate our guys. A lot of people in this situation, on staffs that have been here, they’re doing free agency. Well, we’re doing our guys as they are … We’re trying to understand who we have here, as well as looking at other players out there.”
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It was the right thing to say at the time. Van Pelt was barely beyond the human resources part of his new job — change of address forms, health insurance, parking pass, etc. — and it would have been wildly inappropriate to so much as hint at any kind of finality for Jones in New England.
But everyone knew where this was going. And it has played out in a way that’s acceptable to everyone: Mac Jones gets to pick up the pieces and begin a new chapter in his career, and the Patriots get to pick up a new quarterback by any number of means.
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It was all getting tired. Belichick trying to avoid even speaking Jones’ name at news conferences was tired. Jones’ on-field immaturity was tired. Oh, and this was really tired: When Jones suffered a high ankle sprain late in the Patriots’ 37-26 loss to the Baltimore Ravens on Sept. 25, 2022, and was seen visibly wincing in pain as he exited the field, a lot of really, really tough people out there took exception to all that wincing. Because, you know, we’ve all played quarterback in the NFL and know how to react when one of our ankles has been twisted up like a pretzel.
Here’s hoping Mac Jones’ stop in Jacksonville, however long it lasts, turns out to be a step toward the reboot of a once-promising NFL career.
Here’s hoping Jones grows up a little.
Here’s hoping Belichick, if he ever gets a chance to coach again, discovers the magic of being able to speak of his quarterback, or any other player, by his actual name.
Here’s hoping the next Patriots quarterback gets treated with a little more respect than the last one.
(Photo: Maddie Meyer / Getty Images)
 
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GatorMike said:
The Athletic's Chad Graff writes that Calvin Ridley and Jacoby Brissett will be among the Patriots' top free agent targets today.
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I like Calvin Ridley a lot, but this screams getting overpaid because he's the best option on the market.

He's going to get paid line a #1 when in reality he's a 2.
 
I am so glad that Mac Jones is gone, I had enough of him.

As a long-standing Patriots fan, 64 years, a season ticket holder from the first original game on September 9, 1960, when the Boston Patriots lost 13 -10 at BU field, Butch Songin was QB. I might have suggested that Jones would have been a better QB during that time. The game wasn't that fast and the QB dealt with simple plays.

Today's NFL is fast and more complicated.
IMO Jones was over his head as QB, regardless of the coaching issues, during his life with the Pats.

Enough all ready.

Good Bye, next
 
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