GDT: 2024 NHL Trade Deadline

[RoyIsALegend]

I don't know how this is even a question TBH. In a long playoff run we should use at least 8 different dmen.

Right now JJ is #6, that's a no-no.

Agreed.

Toews - Makar
Girard - Walker
??? - Manson
Johnson - Jones

I don’t see Bednar trusting Malinski’s high risk game unless multiple injuries hit.

 

[Azrael89]

Especially with a guy alone in front of him for several seconds who can take his own rebounds and keep shooting until it goes in.

George is really bad when there's no dman 1 mile around.

Fair. He failed to catch a puck that was clearly in his glove that then led to prolonged possession in our end. We didn’t get scored on, but still.

 

[Avaholic29]

Edmunson and dowd.


Lehkonen - Mackinnon - Rantanen
Drouin - Mittelstadt - Nichushkin
Wood - Colton - O’Connor
Parise - Dowd - Kovalenko
Cogs

Toews - Makar
Girard - Manson
Edmunson - Walker

 

[The Abusement Park]

I fully understand Girard would not have returned Fatty, it had to be Byram, but relying on Girard this heavily in the postseason is certainly a choice.

I think the value is obviously the main reason Bo went over Girard for the 2C. But I also believe that Girards cost certainty has some inherent value for the FO while having to navigate this teams cap situation over the next few seasons.

 

[Balthazar]

Agreed.

Toews - Makar
Girard - Walker
??? - Manson
Johnson - Jones

I don’t see Bednar trusting Malinski’s high risk game unless multiple injuries hit.

I joked about it yesterday but I'd like Edmundson. He's not going to provide offense but he's going to clear the front of the net, take care of rebounds (unlike every other dman we have it seems) and can PK.

 

[Richard88]

Agreed.

Toews - Makar
Girard - Walker
??? - Manson
Johnson - Jones

I don’t see Bednar trusting Malinski’s high risk game unless multiple injuries hit.

Which LHD's do you have in mind? The rental LHD market looks pretty thin this year.

 

[Mighty Makar]

Edmunson and dowd.


Lehkonen - Mackinnon - Rantanen
Drouin - Mittelstadt - Nichushkin
Wood - Colton - O’Connor
Parise - Dowd - Kovalenko
Cogs

Toews - Makar
Girard - Manson
Edmunson - Walker

I like it.

 

[Balthazar]

Fair. He failed to catch a puck that was clearly in his glove that then led to prolonged possession in our end. We didn’t get scored on, but still.

That shit happens all the time to all goalies but usually dmen are there to take care of rebounds and we don't even notice. What happened yesterday on the 2nd goal was some absolutely atrocious defense.

 

[The Abusement Park]

This still needs to be the plan but I kind of dream/wish it was a 1G and we could dump George in that trade or somewhere else.

Jusse Saros and Jeremy Lauzon. Then pair Lauzon with Manson and let them destroy people.

 

[Richard88]

I joked about it yesterday but I'd like Edmundson. He's not going to provide offense but he's going to clear the front of the net, take care of rebounds (unlike every other dman we have it seems) and can PK

Don't think that type of Dman works in Bednar's system which craves for Dmen to be active with the puck and good skaters. Jack Johnson and Manson for example are exceptions as big Dmen because they're decent skaters, unlike Nemeth who was abject in his last stint with the team. There's slim pickings at LHD though which is presumably where desire for Edmundson is coming from.

 

[Ararana]

I think the value is obviously the main reason Bo went over Girard for the 2C. But I also believe that Girards cost certainty has some inherent value for the FO while having to navigate this teams cap situation over the next few seasons.

We'll probably never know but I still have a feeling Byram wanted out.

 

[Chiarelli]

wonder if we will move our 1st

doubt it. Can likely pay less and still get a backup. Doubt they are seriously in on Guentzel

 

[RockLobster]

So I recall about 90% of the board praising the hell out of him after he acquired RyJo this summer and we know how that turned out.

CMac did a good job yesterday by attempting a legitimate fix to a glaring problem. It remains to be seen how well this addresses the problem. Because even though on paper it looks good, we have no clue yet if it truly helps.

He gets an A for effort. And an incomplete on effectiveness.

If this move truly helps the team on ice, awesome, I will be glad that after 2 years he finally did something to help. And maybe the team can focus on the true goal of another Cup.

I said this yesterday...

That's every f***ing trade any one makes. Look at Vancouver with getting Zadorov and Lindholm, sure seemed like they were winning those trades at the time, and how has that worked out for them? They're currently looking to unload Lindholm.

At the time of the trade, our most knowledgeable posters here weren't necessarily praising CMac for acquiring RyJo--rather they were pointing out that it was very much a Boom/Bust trade. If it had boomed, then he'd be hailed as a genius, but there was always very real risk that it would bust. And it did. But he also got to try that boom/bust (with Nashville retaining 50%) by giving up Alex Galchenyuk.

Seriously dude...at some point you have to just admit when you're wrong about things. He admitted last night that RyJo wasn't working so they had to fix it, and they went out and did it. The whole "it remains to be seen whether it works" is just some goalpost moving here.

 

[BobRossColton]

How much for a retained chychrun?

 

[Balthazar]

Don't think that type of Dman works in Bednar's system which craves for Dmen to be active with the puck and good skaters. Jack Johnson and Manson for example are exceptions as big Dmen because they're decent skaters, unlike Nemeth who was abject in his last stint with the team. There's slim pickings at LHD though which is presumably where desire for Edmundson is coming from.

He'd be fine in a low minute role.

We're 1 injury away from having JJ and Jones in the lineup.

2 injuries away from having JJ, Jones and Malinsky in the lineup.

and it's not like Manson, Makar and Girard never get injured.

We need D depth.

 

[Ararana]

That is quite a bit of cap space remaining

 

[cccoltsicehockey]

George sucks. His rebound control last night was atrocious.

I know it was the Blackhawks but seeing Annunen Monday and his rebound control vs George last night it was about as night and day as you can get. One sent everything to the outside and most the the corners vs the other dropped everything right in front or in the slot. It has to change or its going to kill us in the playoffs.

 

[Mighty Makar]

What about Scandella?

 

[The Abusement Park]

We'll probably never know but I still have a feeling Byram wanted out.

I could see that for sure.

 

[Richard88]

If the Avs added Guentzal and Landy came back, he'd probably push out Parise or LOC, in addition to Kovalenko, and Cogs. Doesn't seem like they'd want to do that, but who knows.

Maybe they just wanted to go chest deep all in, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Avs were just trying to drive the price up for Vegas or Edmonton.

I think we probably just see a 4C trade now with Wagner hurt and maybe a goalie.

Could Kovalenko be a possible solution at 4C? It would be surprising as he's very much unproven, but he's playing 2C in the KHL and doing well, and with the Avs being so deep on the wings right now (especially if Landeskog returns) perhaps that's something worth considering.

Landeskog - Mackinnon - Rantanen
Lehkonen --- Mittelstadt - Nuke
Drouin ------ Colton ----- Parise
Wood ------ Kovalenko ---- LOC
Cogliano - Wagner

 

[the_fan]

CMac said he’s not done yet so there will be more moves coming I’m sure. There is plenty of cap space to pick up 2 or 3 more pieces including a goalie

 

[Balthazar]

What about Scandella?

Yes. Any NHL caliber bottom pairing guy would do. It's for a low minute, defensive role and PK.

Basically adding an another JJ.

 

[BobRossColton]

Pinto for 4C!

 

[Richard88]

He'd be fine in a low minute role.

We're 1 injury away from having JJ and Jones in the lineup.

2 injuries away from having JJ, Jones and Malinsky in the lineup.

and it's not like Manson, Makar and Girard never get injured.

We need D depth.

I don't disagree. I just don't think that type of Dman is the great solution.

 

[NorthernAvsFan]

My guess is that the Avs hold onto their 1st this year. They already traded one out for a rental and to dump Johansen. It offers some flexibility for off-season moves when they’ll have to shift some things around to keep Mittelstadt.

Colorado has always valued chemistry in the room too, so I wonder if they’re a bit hesitant to make another big addition from that standpoint.

I like JJ more than most and I think old vets like that save a bit for the playoffs. But, there’s really no reason to not add depth on defence. Even if it’s a #7, to go along with Jones when injuries hit.

4C seems like an obvious target too. Wagner is more likely an odd man out, as opposed to a guy like Parise, who has really been solid since joining the team.