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Fire Greg Cronin!
who can’t we afford? Respectfully, I don’t think any of our prospects besides Carlsson will command 8+
Prospect Info: 2024 NHL Entry Draft (Ducks pick #3, They didn’t drop! OMG It’s a Miracle!)
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who can’t we afford? Respectfully, I don’t think any of our prospects besides Carlsson will command 8+
It’s less about one player making a lot and several players making a good amount.
Terry is at 7 already so basically the same thing, if Zegras puts up a solid season next year I could easily see him asking for 5-6mil, McTavish and Mintyukov both hitting their potential are probably 6-7mil players down the road. Not to mention Gauthier who is a bit of a question mark. And Dostal.
Like I said, it’s a good problem to have a bunch of good players. But somebody is going to have to go.
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When the Cap goes up, salaries will inflate. It’s potentially going up a fair bit the next 2 years.
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Zegras is already on 5.75 so he will be asking for more in his next contract. The things we have going of us is that all of the kids will be weighted against each other so the performers will get the $$ and the supporting players will accept a lesser amount based on what we pay our best guy.
If the Ducks are skilled - or lucky - enough to draft the talent, they'll find a way to pay for them. Right now, it's not worth worrying about.
You guys are way off on contracts. Even if Zegras stays exactly who he is, his next contract will likely be 8 mil just because of UFA years and the cap going up.
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Catton isnt exactly a fit stylistically but he is basically Benson 2.0. If he drops like Benson did a team is going to get a really good player.
Still praying for Celebrini and I'd still prefer Lindstrom over the top defensemen... We could then take a swing with a bunch of RHD with our 2nd and 3rds... like Emery, Elick, Robertson, Brunicke, and maybe Soini, Taymazov, Bodin with our later picks. If we take Levshunov, I don't want us to rush him in our lineup ... even McAvoy and Power needed that 2nd NCAA season to develop.
I know we don't need more LHD but there are also many interesting two-way guys with size that we seem to gravitate towards... Pulkkinen, Shuravin, Fischer... or more defensive ones like Stolberg, Eliasson, Ralph. We can definitely refill our defensive pool with the number of picks that we have this year.
If we get the luck to draft someone like Celebrini, we could just focus on RHD and complimentary/physical forwards.
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I thought we needed to draft two RD's before Luneau's knee issue. My thought is we'll end up with a late, first round pick via Rico trade.
Early pick
#1: Macklin
#2-5: Hope RD Lev is there
Late first pick
A top-6 forward: RW Hemming, RW Sennecke, RW Masse
2nd round early pick
RD Elick, RD Emery
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Levshunov 6.2 and build like a boulder. Had huge improvements this year adjusting to NCAA currently sitting close to PPG pace.
Yakenchuk 6.2 skillful and physical with a great shot. He dangles players and is on track for over 30 goals and 70 points in WHL.
Parekh 6.0 offensive dynamo. He apparently is very smart and was accelerated through school. On pace for 34 goals and 100 points! in the OHL
My bet is one of these guys becomes a Duck
Yakenchuk 6.2 skillful and physical with a great shot. He dangles players and is on track for over 30 goals and 70 points in WHL.
Parekh 6.0 offensive dynamo. He apparently is very smart and was accelerated through school. On pace for 34 goals and 100 points! in the OHL
My bet is one of these guys becomes a Duck
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damn he’s top 3 in OHL in scoring…. Having a crazy season. I don’t think PV would go for a parekh type as he’s too similar to zellweger(cept I think at same age zellweger was much better defensively)
I still prefer levshunov to him personally…. I think lev has the right tools to be a very good two way defender, and is still pretty raw in terms of his upside. And a better fit for what we’re looking for.
After that I go back and fourth between yakemchuk and Dickinson…. Prob tend to lean yakemchuk but admittedly due to handiness.
i just want to win lottery tho, celebrini is fantastic
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You don't worry about stuff like that. You can always trade talent later. "We already have this" ... That's the kind of thinking that leads a team to draft Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan, since they already had Clyde Drexler.
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Cept parekh is seen lower than guys like levshunov silayev and Dickinson. Parekh would be the reach.
And I don’t think PV abides by that concept…. Seeing as we’ve gone off the board to get players weve wanted like gaucher and myatovic
If the Ducks take Parekh I will have complete faith in them and assume he is going to be an awesome player at the NHL, but he is just not a player I want to take a chance on. I know people love the points, but I care way more about a 2-way game then a 4th forward.
Having said that, a lot of people said the same thing about Minty, that he was a 4th forward and his game wouldn't translate, so who knows.
Having said that, a lot of people said the same thing about Minty, that he was a 4th forward and his game wouldn't translate, so who knows.
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Spirit have a lot of goals from blue line… I think 50+, 40 of those from parekh/rodwin.
I agree if they pick him I’ll trust the pick but based on the trend of the last 2 years I’m not sure they’ll go that route. Can’t see him leaving saliyev, levshunov, Dickinson and yakemchuk on the board. This is all under the assumption we’re picking top 3.
What happened to Silayev? Some early reports said scouts saw him as a potential Hedman level D, now it sounds like he's getting 3rd pair minutes. Just a young kid hitting a wall against men and not viewed as a high pick because of the Russian factor?
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6'3 Yakemechuck is growing on me for sure, the size and reach there is potential he can really improve his defense. Offensively he's got a big shot like Jiricek.
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It depends. People passed on Leetch for similar reasons, with Zarley Zalapski and Shawn Anderson going before him on D, even though he was by far the most obviously talented blueliner that year.
Sometimes a guy is just special even if he's not as good all around. It's like with Cole Eiserman ... One dimensional might scare teams off, but if your scouts genuinely believe he's the next Mike Bossy then you grab him. But if course you really need to be sold on that.
Ya his TOI dropping is way more concerning this his points not staying high.
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With respect to Minty, Anaheim was picking 10th in the draft. At that draft range, the two-way D (2WD) prospects would have already been drafted in Nemec and Jiricek. The next tier of D-men were all high-end OFDs in Korchinski, Minty, and Matechuk/ all three play in the CHL. Also in the Ducks range of selection, forwards who were big, fast, and can score would probably be gone in Gauthier and Kasper. All that was left with are midget scorers or a big scorer who can't skate fast (Geekie).
Picking at 10 limits who was available for the Ducks. Matechuk probably wouldn't be in the Ducks selection because he's a diminutive OFD; the Ducks already have two in their system in Drysdale and Zellweger. That boils down to the taller Korchinski (6'3) or the rover Mintyukov (6'1). Watching their scouting videos online, Korchinski is the classic stay close to the blueline OFD while Minty is your riverboat gambler F4. On defense, Korchinski has one move to escape forwards. That was scary to witness. Minty, because of his rover traits, projected better defensively than one-trick pony on defense Korchinski.
There's a common thought that you take an OFD before a DFD because there's more success teaching an OFD to play defense than a DFD to learn offense. 2WD go high in the draft (Nemec, Jiricek). Then the high end OFDs came next (Korchinski, Minty, Mateychuk). Finally, high end DFD wave in the 2022 draft started at pick 18 (LD Bichsel) until pick 43 (RD Warren). The DFD's picked between them were Pickering, Lamoureaux, and Chesley.
Anaheim will probably be selecting in the top-5 this year. The choices available to the Ducks are wide for defensemen, if you don't care about shooting side preference. Having a wide variety makes it more difficult to compare and contrast. In 2022, the Ducks were choosing between three CHL OFD's. For the 2024 draft, we might have different types of defensemen (DFD, 2WD, or OFD) from different leagues (KHL, US NTDP, NCAA, and CHL). Parekh is scoring great in the OHL (CHL), but are we giving enough credit to the NCAA guys in freshmen Buium and Lev? The age range for the NCAA is from 17 - 24 years of age. The age range for the CHL is 16 - 20 years of age.
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- LD Buium
- Games = 26 games
- Scoring = 7g + 27a = 34 pts (1.30 ppg and 3rd in team scoring)
- +/- rating = +12 rating
- RD Lev
- Games = 30 games
- Scoring = 8g + 20a = 28 pts (0.93 ppg and 2nd in team scoring)
- +/- rating = +27rating (leads team by 7 and leads NCAA by 2 in +/-)
- LD Buium
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- LD Dickson (OHL)
- Games = 52 games
- Scoring = 14g + 39a = 53 pts (1.02 ppg and 6th in team scoring)
- +/- rating = +42 rating (leads team by 5 and 2nd in OHL)
- RD Parekh (OHL)
- Games = 50 games
- Scoring = 26g + 50a = 76 pts (1.52 ppg and 1st in team scoring; 4th in OHL)
- +/- rating = +29 rating
- RD Yakemchuk (WHL)
- Games = 49 games
- Scoring = 24g + 29a = 53 pts (1.08 ppg and 2nd in team scoring)
- +/- rating = +0 rating (18th on team, team high is +25 rating)
- PIM (penalty in mins) = 99 mins (1st in team by 32 and 3rd in WHL, high is 103 )
- LD Dickson (OHL)
And then there's 6'7 LD Silayev from the KHL. That's another level of difficulty to compare and contrast. At least with the CHL and NCAA, they're played on NA ice.
I like Lev's total package a lot. Earlier in the season, I thought Lev was the team's leading scorer. Despite Lev being raw, his production level at the NCAA gives him a very high floor as a 2WD (two-way D). Yakemchuk scares me defensively, especially since he's a 6'3 and 190 lbs in the WHL (CHL).
If Lev isn't available to us and the choices are the other d-men along with C Lindstrom are there, then I'd probably be picking Lindstrom at this moment. Things could obviously change since there's more games to play and some can play in the WJC-18s before the draft.
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The overall package of lev to me is what separates him…. And the fact that he is pretty raw in terms of his potential.
I think he has the right frame and physical tools to become a good 2way rhd…. Similar feelings to Mintyukov when we drafted him, I thought he undervalued as a two way dmen in his draft year(due to the system he played in).
I think having 2 big strong two way dmen like Mintyukov and levshunov (I’d also consider lacombe a 2way guy) is a great thing to build around…. Then it becomes finding the right compliments for them. If levshunov is off the board with our pick then the decision becomes a much tougher question between Dickinson parekh saliyev biuim and yakemchuk
You have offensive guys like zellweger and luneau, and defensive guys like hinds helleson and Warren coming
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