Prospect Info: 2024 NHL Entry Draft (Ducks pick #3, They didn’t drop! OMG It’s a Miracle!)

[tomd]

I think you’re hoping for a poor man’s byfield with lindstrom… but I don’t think he has anywhere near the talent or athleticism that byfield had.

That being said I don’t really see man superstar potential players in this draft and if lindstrom became a top 6 winger that would be huge given his size and style.

I guess I'm a little higher on Lindstrom than you are. I see all of the talent and athleticism of Byfield plus a physical/mean streak that doesn't come naturally to Byfield. Like Byfield, he'll take a couple of years to mature but I think he has the highest upside of anyone in the draft not named Celebrini. Assuming he comes back from his injury and finishes the season strong, I think he'll be the favorite to go 2OA in this draft.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I guess I'm a little higher on Lindstrom than you are. I see all of the talent and athleticism of Byfield plus a physical/mean streak that doesn't come naturally to Byfield. Like Byfield, he'll take a couple of years to mature but I think he has the highest upside of anyone in the draft not named Celebrini. Assuming he comes back from his injury and finishes the season strong, I think he'll be the favorite to go 2OA in this draft.

I think that fair, I just think overall after celebrini the forwards in this draft are all pretty questionable in terms of top line upside.

I think he’s prob 2nd overall pick also…. He does have that unicorn build of big athletic and like you said mean streak. If teams think he can stick at center in nhl then that is a huge + for him too.

Do you think he’ll stick to center or end up on wing ?

 

[tomd]

I think that fair, I just think overall after celebrini the forwards in this draft are all pretty questionable in terms of top line upside.

I think he’s prob 2nd overall pick also…. He does have that unicorn build of big athletic and like you said mean streak. If teams think he can stick at center in nhl then that is a huge + for him too.

Do you think he’ll stick to center or end up on wing ?

Too early to tell...I think teams like Chicago or SJ would love to draft him as a center but recognize that he may be better on the wing at the NHL level. Kind of like a certain guy that was drafted 5OA in 2022...

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I think you’re hoping for a poor man’s byfield with lindstrom… but I don’t think he has anywhere near the talent or athleticism that byfield had.

That being said I don’t really see man superstar potential players in this draft and if lindstrom became a top 6 winger that would be huge given his size and style.

Lindstrom's blooming late is a good thing. I read an article recently why late bloomers could be better than blooming early and then plateau before their draft.

Byfield
D-1: 64 games, 29g + 32a =61 pts (0.95 ppg)
D+0: 45 games, 32g + 50a = 82 pts (1.82 ppg)

Lindstrom
D-1: 61 games, 19g + 23a = 42 pts (0.69 ppg)
D+0: 32 games, 27g + 19a = 46 pts (1.44 ppg)

Lindstrom could be the better goal scorer.

Last year's draft had four top-end talents who go #1 in other drafts, including a generational talent in Bedard. The others were Carlsson, Fantilli, and Michkov. This year's draft has only one in Celebrini. #2-8/9 are all interchangeable. It all boils down to preference if you're not picking #1.

 

[goonsaredumb]

Last year's draft had four top-end talents who go #1 in other drafts, including a generational talent in Bedard. The others were Carlsson, Fantilli, and Michkov. This year's draft has only one in Celebrini. #2-8/9 are all interchangeable. It all boils down to preference if you're not picking #1.

I'd disagree with this part, Demidov like Michkov last year would be pretty clear-cut #2 IMO if he wasn't Russian

 

[Ducks]

If we don't land Celebrini, I want one of the top defense prospects. We've already got Z, Terry, McTavish, Carlsson, and Gauthier locked for our top 6. We also have a bunch of young players and prospects that can fill out the bottom six. If we absolutely want to add another top 6 forward I'd be okay with Demidov, but I think the real value in the top 5 this year outside of Celebrini is on defense and we can use another #1D upside player aside from Mintyukov.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Lindstrom's blooming late is a good thing. I read an article recently why late bloomers could be better than blooming early and then plateau before their draft.

Byfield
D-1: 64 games, 29g + 32a =61 pts (0.95 ppg)
D+0: 45 games, 32g + 50a = 82 pts (1.82 ppg)

Lindstrom
D-1: 61 games, 19g + 23a = 42 pts (0.69 ppg)
D+0: 32 games, 27g + 19a = 46 pts (1.44 ppg)

Lindstrom could be the better goal scorer.

Last year's draft had four top-end talents who go #1 in other drafts, including a generational talent in Bedard. The others were Carlsson, Fantilli, and Michkov. This year's draft has only one in Celebrini. #2-8/9 are all interchangeable. It all boils down to preference if you're not picking #1.

I think Byfield was significantly younger in these draft years too right? I think that was the other part that made Byfield such an intriguing pick, he was still 17 when the draft happened if im not mistaken

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I think Byfield was significantly younger in these draft years too right? I think that was the other part that made Byfield such an intriguing pick, he was still 17 when the draft happened if im not mistaken

Yeah he was only eligible by less than a month (born August 19 and cutoff is sept 15th)

 

[Ducks]

If the Ducks want to go after a toolsy late bloomer they should be targeting Anton Silayev ahead of Cayden Lindstrom imo.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

If the Ducks want to go after a toolsy late bloomer they should be targeting Anton Silayev ahead of Cayden Lindstrom imo.

I have 0 interest in silyev, id def take my chances with Lindstrom over him

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

Ducks need a sniper.. Bring in Kaliyev from the kings.. Dude is a sniper.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Ducks need a sniper.. Bring in Kaliyev from the kings.. Dude is a sniper.

Gautheir is a sniper...

Kaliyev has 2 more goals than max jones... idk that hes the type of sniper we need.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

Gautheir is a sniper...

Kaliyev has 2 more goals than max jones... idk that hes the type of sniper we need.

They havent playe him much.. Thats the problem..

 

[KelVarnsen]

They havent playe him much.. Thats the problem..

His inability to skate and play defense is his real problem.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

His inability to skate and play defense is his real problem.

Yah he is a bad skater..

 

[shach1]

Button doesn't see him as a 100-point guy

 

[Anaheim4ever]

His inability to skate and play defense is his real problem.

Yeah even Daniel Sprong can skate pretty well. Imagine if Sprong couldn't skate, he would be out of the NHL. Sprong gets the same ice time as him too.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Button doesn't see him as a 100-point guy

I think he certainly could be a 100 point guy in the right situation... i dont think hes on the bedard/hughes/mcdavid/mack/crosby/matthews tier of prospect. But hes def in that next tier imo.

 

[The Duck Knight]

Calling him a "franchise player" and then saying he's not going to put up 100 points is a bit of a contradiction. Is Button saying he can't be better than prime Huberdeau? That guy put up 100 points.

I certainly don't think 100 points at some point is out of the question for Celebrini.

 

[DavidBL]

Calling him a "franchise player" and then saying he's not going to put up 100 points is a bit of a contradiction. Is Button saying he can't be better than prime Huberdeau? That guy put up 100 points.

I certainly don't think 100 points at some point is out of the question for Celebrini.

He compared him to Toews. Pivotal to Chicago's cups but not a big point producer.

 

[All Mighty]

Calling him a "franchise player" and then saying he's not going to put up 100 points is a bit of a contradiction. Is Button saying he can't be better than prime Huberdeau? That guy put up 100 points.

I certainly don't think 100 points at some point is out of the question for Celebrini.

I mean Barkov has never hit 100 points and I think everyone would agree he's always been better than Huberdeau.

 

[The Duck Knight]

I mean Barkov has never hit 100 points and I think everyone would agree he's always been better than Huberdeau.

Barkov had 88 in 67 games one year. That's a 100 point pace. With how high scoring is league wide I think a "franchise" forward should hit 100 points at some point.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Calling him a "franchise player" and then saying he's not going to put up 100 points is a bit of a contradiction. Is Button saying he can't be better than prime Huberdeau? That guy put up 100 points.

I certainly don't think 100 points at some point is out of the question for Celebrini.

Celebrini is doing this as a 17-year old in the NCAA. He won't turn 18 until Jun 13th, a couple of weeks before the NHL draft. What he's doing is impressive. For perspective, Fantilli was 18 years old for most of his NCAA hockey season.

Whoever drafts Celebrini, I hope they leave him in the NCAA for another year so he can physically improve before being thrown at the wolves in the NHL.

 

[The Duck Knight]

Celebrini is doing this as a 17-year old in the NCAA. He won't turn 18 until Jun 13th, a couple of weeks before the NHL draft. What he's doing is impressive. For perspective, Fantilli was 18 years old for most of his NCAA hockey season.

Whoever drafts Celebrini, I hope they leave him in the NCAA for another year so he can physically improve before being thrown at the wolves in the NHL.

Zero chance Celebrini isn't in the NHL next year. And I didn't say anything negative about him. I was questioning Button's logic.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Getz never hit 100. Definitely a franchise player. It's an arbitrary mark really.