The limitation is in benefiting from the lottery win by moving up. Even after Chicago wins this lottery, they will still have lottery balls for next year that they can win in the sense of their ball being selected but they can't move up. If we end up last, win the lottery, the win doesn't count towards twice in five years because it is maintaining our presumptive draft position. The same would happen if we won the 2nd lottery after losing the 1st lottery. If what you're saying were accurate, the Ducks, Sabres, and Canadiens would be ineligible if they win a lottery this year for the next five years but I've not seen any indication of such a thing.
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You’re misinterpreting that quote, see my explanation above. Also, a team does not need to win the lottery to get the first pick. Should any team higher than #10 win the lottery, the team at presumptive draft position #1 would draft first without having won the lottery.
Gecklund
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I’m aware of this. This is the only time I believe that you can get first overall without it counting as a lottery win because you are keeping your original pick. I don’t believe you are keeping your original pick if you finish last and win the lottery.
Sharks could get 4 straight 1st overall picks (I know unlikely) if they finish last this season.
2024 - Finish last win lottery
2025 - Pens pick wins lottery
2026 - Sharks win lottery and move up
2027 - Sharks win lottery and move up
Unless the Pens pick winning counts as one of the 2 times the Sharks can move up which would be dumb to be penalized for Pittsburgh being dumb.
That or they could just finish last and either win the lottery, or have a team higher than #10 win the lottery for four consecutive years.
Keeping your original pick does not constitute advancing in the draft order which is the prerequisite for the limitation.
How does finishing last and then winning the lottery “advance” the teams draft position?
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Gecklund
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Again you can ignore me. I genuinely don’t care. This entire board is a hive mind and god forbid someone has a differing opinion. Reason why I don’t come around here much anymore. No room for discussion
Anyway you put it, no team that has 40 points more than the sharks (at the end of the year) should pick above us. A very silly way to do decide the future of teams.
If it was linear, IE last place team picks first, then you would not have all the claims that the lottery is rigged. Leaving it as it is is a big reason why there is so much speculation about it potentially being rigged. Seriously, there is no correct answer if we see either of those teams pick above us.
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I don’t care if you have a different opinion, I just tire of you calling everyone who disagrees with you “cute”.
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Sharks have never won a draft lotto in over thirty years yet you guys are arguing over the right strategy so we can win more than twice in five??
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It´s insane that the NHL doesn´t have the exact wording of the draft lottery rules on their homepage.
As a judge i would more than enjoy to give you my interpretation of the rule, but judging by secondary sources that may have already interpreted the rule, doesn´t make a lot of sense.
Having said that: from all the infos from different corners of the internet that i have gatherde, i tend to believe the majority of you is right and the sources that state, a team can´t "win" the lottery more than twice in five years lack a definition of the word "win" in that case, which gives room to Gecklunds interpretation.
As a judge i would more than enjoy to give you my interpretation of the rule, but judging by secondary sources that may have already interpreted the rule, doesn´t make a lot of sense.
Having said that: from all the infos from different corners of the internet that i have gatherde, i tend to believe the majority of you is right and the sources that state, a team can´t "win" the lottery more than twice in five years lack a definition of the word "win" in that case, which gives room to Gecklunds interpretation.
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But wouldn't our original pick be 1 going into the lottery? So if we go in with pick 1, and "win" we still have our original pick, hence we didn't move up.
Just like how you could have ignored that users joke instead of replying cute??
No one has came at you for having a differing opinion. This is a discussion based on the lottery.
(2) The limitation on “move up” and the limitation on benefiting from Draft Lottery “wins” over a five-year period is being implemented for the 2022 Draft Lottery (and beyond). The limitation on benefiting from Draft Lottery “wins” will be forward-looking only and will not be retroactive. Therefore, no Club will be able to move-up in the Draft Order by reason of winning a Lottery Draw any more than two (2) times during the period of 2022 through 2026.
This distinction feels like a pretty clear indicator of what the interpretation ought to be. It's about moving up in the draft as it relates to the limitation.
This distinction feels like a pretty clear indicator of what the interpretation ought to be. It's about moving up in the draft as it relates to the limitation.
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I mean, it was a solution in search of a problem to fix a different solution in search of a different problem, so it's just going to be stupid no matter what.
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