2024 NHL Draft: WE DID IT, CELEBRINI IS OURS!!!

[Celly4Celebrini]

If they do that, they'll be going way off the board. Eiserman has fallen sharply on all the public lists and it also sounds like he's fallen on all the scouts' private lists based on what we can glean from insiders. If the logic is what you say "upside and being safe, with an NHL role no matter what that the team will love," then I think they go Lindstrom or Dickinson and both of those would be better than Eiserman, who lacks a complete game, size, or speed.

Dickinson and Lindstrom both have size, speed, and a reasonably well rounded game, and both are criticized for maybe not having enough upside to be selected 2-4 overall, but they still have high ceilings while being safe. They describe your draft thesis to a T.

im guessing they meant with the Pittsburgh 1. Hes now routinely seen as a 10-15ish guy which would fit the pens pick

 

[coooldude]

im guessing they meant with the Pittsburgh 1. Hes now routinely seen as a 10-15ish guy which would fit the pens pick

I don't think he meant that, but I agree that Eiserman is likely to go 10-15 or 5-10 to a team who thinks they know better than others / really want a pure goalscorer.

 

[Jargon]

I don't think he meant that, but I agree that Eiserman is likely to go 10-15 or 5-10 to a team who thinks they know better than others / really want a pure goalscorer.

I don’t hate the idea of Eiserman with Eklund or Smith. Can he skate well?

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Outside of Haltunnen we need a pure goal scorer prospect. Eiserman would be a good target 11-15 OV with PIT pick.

My dream scenario is still Celebrini at 1 and Parekh or Buium at 11.

 

[Juxtaposer]

On one hand, I have Eiserman ranked 13th and wouldn’t be wildly excited about drafting him even with the Pittsburgh pick. But on the other, if we got Celebrini it would be fun to also get Eiserman, considering they’ve played together for years and are very good friends. Ultimately, I’d prefer a defenseman at 11th but wouldn’t be mad if we ended up with Eiserman there.

 

[dmcccdmn]

Anyone knows how the talents for next year's draft look like? How's the best prospect compared to Macklin? Are the 2nd, 3rd, 4th best prospects any good like last year's draft?

Bedard has been pretty good on his first year. Is Macklin more raw and needs more time before joining the big boys league? I'm perfectly fine with us not having him because I'm hoping that we'll make a run at the top pick in the next few years. We need a lot of young talents to rebuild.

I know typical fans get sad when we suck and keep losing, but being dead last means we'll be so loaded with top talents. I'm excited and can't wait to see what high end talents we'll have a few years from now. Being bad but not bad enough to get top prospects because we won a few too many meaningless games is the absolutely worst scenario. There's nothing to look forward to & no future in that scenario.

 

[TheBeard]

Anyone knows how the talents for next year's draft look like? How's the best prospect compared to Macklin? Are the 2nd, 3rd, 4th best prospects any good like last year's draft?

Bedard has been pretty good on his first year. Is Macklin more raw and needs more time before joining the big boys league? I'm perfectly fine with us not having him because I'm hoping that we'll make a run at the top pick in the next few years. We need a lot of young talents to rebuild.

I know typical fans get sad when we suck and keep losing, but being dead last means we'll be so loaded with top talents. I'm excited and can't wait to see what high end talents we'll have a few years from now. Being bad but not bad enough to get top prospects because we won a few too many meaningless games is the absolutely worst scenario. There's nothing to look forward to & no future in that scenario.

I like next year's crop better as do most.

2025 NHL Draft ranking: Scott Wheeler's early top 28

An early look at the top prospects in the 2025 NHL Draft class.

theathletic.com

 

[coooldude]

Thanks to @TheBeard and others, we already have a thread for Baggin' for Hagens.

2025 NHL Draft: Lose a ton for Porter Martone

***Blah Blah Blah...We got Celebrini, this is an icing on top*** Since it's clear Sharks are tanking in 2025 too, wanted to proactively make this thread. Let hockey Gods smile at us for all the pain we experienced today. James Hagens would be a nice consolation next year...

forums.hfboards.com

 

[landshark]

Thanks to @TheBeard and others, we already have a thread for Baggin' for Hagens.

2025 NHL Draft: Lose a ton for Porter Martone

***Blah Blah Blah...We got Celebrini, this is an icing on top*** Since it's clear Sharks are tanking in 2025 too, wanted to proactively make this thread. Let hockey Gods smile at us for all the pain we experienced today. James Hagens would be a nice consolation next year...

forums.hfboards.com

Paper or plastic?

 

[TheBeard]

Paper or plastic?

If we're gonna get F'ed, it's gonna be raw and painful.

 

[landshark]

If we're gonna get F'ed, it's gonna be raw and painful.

So burlap then?

 

[timorous me]

Winning the draft drastically helps the chance of winning the one that counts. 7 out of the last 9 championship teams had 1st overall picks on their winning roster.

Yeah, I meant winning the actual lottery, not the Tankathon simulation. But hey, at least we did win the one TSN did on their trade deadline show so we could see what it actually looked like to see the Sharks' logo show up inside the #1 envelope. So real you could almost believe it happening!

 

[LilLeeroy]

Amateur Scout Eronko Fired, Grier Shares How Sharks Have Russian Draft Prospects Covered

NASHVILLE – The San Jose Sharks have fired Russian scout Igor Eronko. Eronko was just hired as a Russian-area amateur scout by the Sharks this past summer. From 2020 to 2023, Eronko was an Avangard Omsk assistant GM, and before that, a prominent NHL/KHL reporter. GM Mike Grier pulled no punches...

sanjosehockeynow.com

Sounds like no Demidov unfortunately.

 

[hohosaregood]

It'd be cool if we could drag in some Warriors players to come announce the pick if we get 1OA. Like huge pipe dream but imagine Steph Curry announcing an NHL pick lol.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Amateur Scout Eronko Fired, Grier Shares How Sharks Have Russian Draft Prospects Covered

NASHVILLE – The San Jose Sharks have fired Russian scout Igor Eronko. Eronko was just hired as a Russian-area amateur scout by the Sharks this past summer. From 2020 to 2023, Eronko was an Avangard Omsk assistant GM, and before that, a prominent NHL/KHL reporter. GM Mike Grier pulled no punches...

sanjosehockeynow.com

Sounds like no Demidov unfortunately.

I'd think Demidov and Silayev are still on the table given how talented they are...but this means we're probably not drafting any Russians outside of like clear top-10 picks.

 

[coooldude]

I'd think Demidov and Silayev are still on the table given how talented they are...but this means we're probably not drafting any Russians outside of like clear top-10 picks.

What's weird is throwing the guy under the bus so publicly.

I already thought we were less than likely to draft Demidov or Silayev... Silayev for the long contract, Demidov because if you're going high skilled forward with our top pick, you might rather go Lindstrom (size/speed) or Catton (Center, NA, less uncertainty). Demidov is legit, but I'm not sure organizationally they'd go for him anyway in the 2-4 range.

 

[Juxtaposer]

It'd be cool if we could drag in some Warriors players to come announce the pick if we get 1OA. Like huge pipe dream but imagine Steph Curry announcing an NHL pick lol.

The draft being located in Las Vegas might make this slightly plausible.

 

[LilLeeroy]

The draft being located in Las Vegas might make this slightly plausible.

I'd imagine Draymond would be the one to do it. Would just have to hope Will Smith doesn't go to the draft though, or else Draymond would definitely make a joke about his girlfriend.

 

[STL Shark]

What's weird is throwing the guy under the bus so publicly.

I already thought we were less than likely to draft Demidov or Silayev... Silayev for the long contract, Demidov because if you're going high skilled forward with our top pick, you might rather go Lindstrom (size/speed) or Catton (Center, NA, less uncertainty). Demidov is legit, but I'm not sure organizationally they'd go for him anyway in the 2-4 range.

Sounds like the guy quite literally wasn't showing up to work or doing any work so I am all for Grier tossing him under the bus. Take the uncertainty of what happened out of people's imaginations and just tell the blunt truth.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I'd imagine Draymond would be the one to do it. Would just have to hope Will Smith doesn't go to the draft though, or else Draymond would definitely make a joke about his girlfriend.

I think he could be convinced. He’s tight with Celebrini’s dad and already went to see Macklin play in the USHL last season.

Other NHL fans would hate it, but that just makes me want it to happen more.

What's weird is throwing the guy under the bus so publicly.

I already thought we were less than likely to draft Demidov or Silayev... Silayev for the long contract, Demidov because if you're going high skilled forward with our top pick, you might rather go Lindstrom (size/speed) or Catton (Center, NA, less uncertainty). Demidov is legit, but I'm not sure organizationally they'd go for him anyway in the 2-4 range.

Because of the strong words used by Grier, it seems evident that Eronko’s dereliction of duty must have been even worse than the words make it seem.

 

[LadyStanley]

 

[dmcccdmn]

Is the Pens pick set in stone or their GM can choose?

 

[StanleyCup2035]

They weren’t too knowledgeable. They were saying Penguins don’t have a choice whether the pick is conveyed or not should it be Top 10. Both were speculating Pens want to finish strong to make sure pick is outside of Top 10 so it gets conveyed this year

 

[coooldude]

Is the Pens pick set in stone or their GM can choose?

GM can choose, if it's top 10 post lottery. Has 72 hours after the lottery. If Dubas says nothing, they keep the pick.

 

[Hodge]

They weren’t too knowledgeable. They were saying Penguins don’t have a choice whether the pick is conveyed or not should it be Top 10. Both were speculating Pens want to finish strong to make sure pick is outside of Top 10 so it gets conveyed this year

Between this podcast and 32 Thoughts you have three blithering morons who seem to know nothing about the league that it's their full time job to cover (and Jeff Marek who's also annoying but at least likes and is knowledgeable about hockey).