2024 NHL Draft: WE DID IT, CELEBRINI IS OURS!!!
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themelkman
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Ill be your counterbalance in that I think whoever they pick will be useless and a bust.
24 games left, tied for last with Chicago who has 22 games left.
10 points back of 3rd worst.
Looks to be a battle to the end for last but should be clear of falling any farther down the picking line.
10 points back of 3rd worst.
Looks to be a battle to the end for last but should be clear of falling any farther down the picking line.
StanleyCup2035
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Is it fair to say Levshunov's upside is Top 2 and downside Top 4?
STL Shark
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Only if you assume that he's not going to continue spending darn near close to the cap ceiling like he has every year he's been owner.
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He did when the Sharks were winning and selling out games regularly. Has that still been the case in our decent to the bottom?
Hodge
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We're actually spending over the cap this year - about $87 million in real dollars - with Simek, Lindblom and Knyzhov making NHL salaries in the minors.
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There's always the total bust scenario where he struggles to make it past bottom pairing or is a mediocre mid pairing, but my comp currently in my head is an Erik Johnson type or Dion Phaneuf type player maybe as a median outcome (sort of minute-munching but sometimes mistake prone, big, strong, mid-pair defenseman on a cup winner), and possibly better (40-50+ points consistently and a real top-pair threat while holding his own in the zone).
I'm not sure who I would cite as his ceiling. Maybe a Dobson, Josi, Bouchard, Rielly. Some think that's his expected outcome, which would be awesome. Some are more concerned about the decision making and lackadaisical zone play.
You'd have to define top 4. On a playoff team? Absolutely not.
Juxtaposer
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Well-said. Levshunov’s floor is probably a late-career version of EJ or Phaneuf—a toolsy bottom pairing guy who has value but doesn’t move the needle in a meaningful way and can frustrate fans. Maybe Ristolainen for a more modern name?
I think a lot would have to go wrong for that to happen, but it’s definitely within the realm of plausibility. There’s a huge range of outcomes Levshunov could have, but what I will say is that he’ll be an NHL player. So technically, that’s a pretty high floor.
Stewie Griffin
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I like his upside compared to the other D in the top of the draft, despite his red flags. A physical, athletic right shot D is one of the hardest things to find in hockey.
If we lose the lottery and pick 2 or 3...I want Levshunov or Lindstrom.
While I still really want Macklin I would be very satisfied with Levshunov.
I will feel it is a disappointment if we don’t walk away with one of those two players.
I will feel it is a disappointment if we don’t walk away with one of those two players.
Call me crazy, but I would not be satisfied with Leshunov. Its Macklin or bust for me. Knowing this, there is a large chance that I am going to be unpleased with the outcome of this draft.
Watching Anaheim or Chicago get Macklin will be totally devestating, and just set us back another 2 years as these are most likely teams we are going to be fighting for a playoff spot against in 5 years.
Watching Anaheim or Chicago get Macklin will be totally devestating, and just set us back another 2 years as these are most likely teams we are going to be fighting for a playoff spot against in 5 years.
To add, winning less than 20 games and coming out with a top 4 dman as our top pick is horrible, unless he is a clear #1 or #1B. Just would be a total waste of a season.
Juxtaposer
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I understand your sentiment, but you do realize that not every draft has a real #1C or #1D in it, right? Sometimes the draft is just weak.
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I like that most of the projected top picks - at least Levshunov, Lindstrom, Dickinson and Silayev - are all big boys which we need desperately. So if we don't win the lottery at least we're addressing a significant organizational need in terms of both size and position.
I would add Yamachuk to that list as my ideal pick for the pens pick.
If we walk away with Levshunov and Yamachuk we would have dramatically improved our D pipeline and size.
Muk - Levshunov
?? - Yamachuk
Is a great start to a big top 4.
As much as I don’t want it to be Chicago, I am rooting for them to move up in the lottery if the Sharks don’t win which would eliminate them from moving up in the next 3 years. They might be too good for it to matter but that team is so bad that even Celebrini wouldn’t pull them out of the bottom 5 next year.
I do realize this, and the last 2 drafts have had clear #1 franchise C's. Both seasons in which we have been horrendous/battling for the worst team in the league. It is about time the sharks had some sort of luck,hopefully that is this year.
2-5 is honestly a wash for me. If we dont win, I hope we trade back a little and pick up more tickets.
I expect Chicago/Arizona to both win it, so I think it's up to Bettman whether he wants to really make Chicago a powerhouse again or if he wants give Arizona one last kick at the can by giving them Celebrini since they've never won it either. Sharks will drop to #3 at least regardless and the best move will be to either trade down or see if they can get a big fish (like Pettersson before he was off the table) similar to last year. If they drop to 3 or lower they will be in re-rebuild territory.
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Coyotes moving to SLC would make them the best team to rig the lottery for tbh. Gary could probably gouge another couple hundred mil on the expansion fee if it comes with Celebrini.
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2 and 3 are pretty interchangeable to me. While I like Lev a bit more, Dickinson would be my pick at 3 and I’d be reasonably happy with it. He does represent a huge need in our prospect pool.
It would be nice to be lucky, obviously, but you said “Celebrini or bust”, as though getting anyone but Celebrini is a waste. That’s just not true.
In terms of not missing the playoffs for another 5 years, it is a bust. There is no doubt in my mind that missing out on Celebrini would cause us atleast another 2 years in purgatory. The difference between #1 and the field is very large this year.
Man, that would definitely be sketchy as hell if suddenly Arizona moves to a different, more lucrative market and finally after all these years they get some “lotto luck”.
It was last year as well.
Only because Bedard is heralded as the next big thing. 1, 2, and 3 were all clear cut future #1 centers. There is not a player at the caliber of Carlsson or Fantili that is going to go number 2 or 3 this year.
Demidov could be.
Nobody ever trades top 5 picks, they will take whoever they like most at the pick they get and not try to get cute.
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