2024 NHL Draft: WE DID IT, CELEBRINI IS OURS!!!

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If Celebrini and his dad tries pulling a Lindros, then Grier just does what the Nordiques did and draft him anyway. Get a huge package for him or watch him waste away 3 years of his career.
 
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I can’t believe that a „The sister of the dogsitter of my grandcousins cleaning-lady“-rumor is messing with so many of your heads.

There is a 25.478912 % chance of him wearing teal in October. That cut from the 25.5 % includes a lot more than said rumor: he could be hit by a bus, he could turn into a radical climate activist and decide to never lace skates again, etc.

Anyone worried about that? If not, don’t be because of some tea-leaf-reading.
If we don't win the lottery the the rumors were 100% true imo
 
To be honest it's kinda weird if Macklin doesn't want to sign with the Sharks if drafted.
San Jose has young players similar to his age coming up and if he is smart enough, he knows that team drafting him is probably not doing that good if they are in position of drafting him.

I think we overthink this whole thing and he'll be happy to start his pro career here and be a part of the solution rather than dictating where he wants to go. I have zero respect for those top 5 players that manipulate their way to a team. I understand it being the case later if the team that they play in either doesn't have a plan or just don't have chemistry at all.

Mike Grier has a plan and I think that's going to be reasonable for Macklin when interviewed.
 
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If any team could lose every game the rest of the season it's the Ducks. It seems the ideal scenario is Anaheim ending with the 2nd worst record and Chicago winning the lotto to move up to 2OA, blocking them from winning the lotto for (hopefully) the rest of our rebuild.

Also, our other bird friends moving up to 16OA and winning the lotto so we can't get jumped and snag Hagens next year with their magnetic ping pong balls.
 
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5 pages later and people are still stressing about whether Celebrini would ever suit up in teal again, or would he pull a Lindros. Both Quinn and Grier are BU guys. Celebrini would literally have trusted alumni overseeing his pro career from the start. Is there a prospect out there who stands to enter a better situation? Just on that alone. In all honesty, I’m starting to appreciate the idea we’d take Brandsegg-Nygaard with Pitts pick if it’s outside the top 10. Reading his scouting report sounds like exactly the type of player MG likes.
 
Have you followed the NFL draft before? Even once?
The sport that has seen Baker Mayfield and Joe Burrow drafted 1st overall at age 23 in the last 6 drafts and Anthony Richardson drafted 4th overall at 20 does not appear to care about pretty drastic age differences when drafting. We will see QBs that have played 3 and 5 years of CFB and 21, 22, and 23 years old drafted in the top 3 picks this year to further validate the claim that age is pretty meaningless on the list of things that the NFL cares about when drafting (won't even get into the Browns decision to draft 28 year old Brandon Weeden in the 1st round since it's, you know, the Browns).
 
5 pages later and people are still stressing about whether Celebrini would ever suit up in teal again, or would he pull a Lindros. Both Quinn and Grier are BU guys. Celebrini would literally have trusted alumni overseeing his pro career from the start. Is there a prospect out there who stands to enter a better situation? Just on that alone. In all honesty, I’m starting to appreciate the idea we’d take Brandsegg-Nygaard with Pitts pick if it’s outside the top 10. Reading his scouting report sounds like exactly the type of player MG likes.

I think what we choose with that second pick is really dependent on what we get with ours. If it’s Celebrini, I think we have to take the best defenseman available at 11-14, if it’s Levshunov, I don’t mind a forward. But we need some D prospects in this place.
 
5 pages later and people are still stressing about whether Celebrini would ever suit up in teal again, or would he pull a Lindros. Both Quinn and Grier are BU guys. Celebrini would literally have trusted alumni overseeing his pro career from the start. Is there a prospect out there who stands to enter a better situation? Just on that alone. In all honesty, I’m starting to appreciate the idea we’d take Brandsegg-Nygaard with Pitts pick if it’s outside the top 10. Reading his scouting report sounds like exactly the type of player MG likes.
Brandsegg-Nygard is a really solid player and I wouldn’t, like, hate if we took him with the Pens pick, but I don’t see a player with more than that 2nd line upside there and would really prefer to take a guy who could be more. I’d start being potentially interested in him at 14, if that’s where the pick lands.
 
The sport that has seen Baker Mayfield and Joe Burrow drafted 1st overall at age 23 in the last 6 drafts and Anthony Richardson drafted 4th overall at 20 does not appear to care about pretty drastic age differences when drafting. We will see QBs that have played 3 and 5 years of CFB and 21, 22, and 23 years old drafted in the top 3 picks this year to further validate the claim that age is pretty meaningless on the list of things that the NFL cares about when drafting (won't even get into the Browns decision to draft 28 year old Brandon Weeden in the 1st round since it's, you know, the Browns).
As has been stated many times before the NFL allows players age 20-23 to be drafted. The NHL draft is just a single 12 period.

When comparing players 3 years apart birth month doesn’t mean much. When talking about players who were at most 11.9 months apart the months matter a lot more.

If the NHL had the same draft eligibility criteria as the NFL I’m almost positive that birth month would not matter.
 
Brandsegg-Nygard is a really solid player and I wouldn’t, like, hate if we took him with the Pens pick, but I don’t see a player with more than that 2nd line upside there and would really prefer to take a guy who could be more. I’d start being potentially interested in him at 14, if that’s where the pick lands.
I don’t remember much from Timo in his draft year but I do know he was said to have a lower ceiling. How would you compare Brandsegg-Nygard to Timo?

This is with the caveat that I’m pretty sure Timo ended up outplaying his suspected ceiling.
 
I don’t remember much from Timo in his draft year but I do know he was said to have a lower ceiling. How would you compare Brandsegg-Nygard to Timo?

This is with the caveat that I’m pretty sure Timo ended up outplaying his suspected ceiling.
Hmm, Timo interestingly developed a lot more playmaking ability in his D+1 year, but draft year Timo and MBN aren’t a bad comp. Similar size, early birthday, playstyle is pretty similar.
 
The sport that has seen Baker Mayfield and Joe Burrow drafted 1st overall at age 23 in the last 6 drafts and Anthony Richardson drafted 4th overall at 20 does not appear to care about pretty drastic age differences when drafting. We will see QBs that have played 3 and 5 years of CFB and 21, 22, and 23 years old drafted in the top 3 picks this year to further validate the claim that age is pretty meaningless on the list of things that the NFL cares about when drafting (won't even get into the Browns decision to draft 28 year old Brandon Weeden in the 1st round since it's, you know, the Browns).

I hear you, but the QB position might be the only outlier only because of how much utility you actually get out of one if they hit. The fact that NFL players have the shortest shelf life of all pro athletes, but a great QB can play into their late 30s just makes it a numbers game. And even then older QBs are constantly docked for being late bloomers. Penix this year for example as opposed to McCarthy.

It's a common part of the evaluation process, especially for skilled position players to have their college production discounted because of the fact that they are "redshirt seniors" dominating against 1st/2nd year college kids.

I'd say actually maybe besides Soccer it matters the least in Hockey (as long as we're sticking within the constraints of your DY) compared to Basketball and Football. Eichel and Fantilli were October birthdays and it was never a factor in elaborating their status as an elite prospect.
 
Hmm, Timo interestingly developed a lot more playmaking ability in his D+1 year, but draft year Timo and MBN aren’t a bad comp. Similar size, early birthday, playstyle is pretty similar.
I think it was you that also was very unhappy with the Timo pick. Obviously different levels of draft classes (2015 being one of the best in recent memory) but still I think I’d be a little upset if we took Brandsegg-Nygard in that 11-15 range. I think I’d prefer Iginla, Helenius, Greentree, or Connolly if we are going F. Think I’d prefer a D and would consider Jiricek in that range although I think I’d be in the minority with that take.
 
I think it was you that also was very unhappy with the Timo pick. Obviously different levels of draft classes (2015 being one of the best in recent memory) but still I think I’d be a little upset if we took Brandsegg-Nygard in that 11-15 range. I think I’d prefer Iginla, Helenius, Greentree, or Connolly if we are going F. Think I’d prefer a D and would consider Jiricek in that range although I think I’d be in the minority with that take.
I was pretty apoplectic about the Timo pick to be honest. I was full Barzal train. But Timo genuinely improved a ton in his D+1 year, and I watched him a lot during that time and was very pleased with his development.

I would say Helenius > Iginla >> Nygard-Brandsegg > Greentree. Connolly is a no draft for me.
 
I was pretty apoplectic about the Timo pick to be honest. I was full Barzal train. But Timo genuinely improved a ton in his D+1 year, and I watched him a lot during that time and was very pleased with his development.

I would say Helenius > Iginla >> Nygard-Brandsegg > Greentree. Connolly is a no draft for me.
Is Connolly a no draft cause of the picture he posted? Or a different reason?
 
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