HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Naslund]

8 more days until we draft Buium, everyone!

In HuGo I trust forever, ... until I want them tarred and feathered on their way out of town...

 

[Skip Bayless]

 

[NotProkofievian]

Pfft anyone can do that.

 

[Scintillating10]

Silayev is Chara most experts compare him too

These comparisons for the defenseman are hilarious. Buium is Makar just without the generational skating (skating is an area of improvement not a strength) and elite shot.

Silayev is Hedman, just you know without the offensive game.

Parekh is Karlsson, if Karlsson was offensively only his shot.

Might as well say Demidov is Lafleur. Lindstrom is Lindros. Sennecke is Lemieux

 

[Jaynki]

These comparisons for the defenseman are hilarious. Buium is Makar just without the generational skating (skating is an area of improvement not a strength) and elite shot.

Silayev is Hedman, just you know without the offensive game.

Parekh is Karlsson, if Karlsson was offensively only his shot.

Might as well say Demidov is Lafleur. Lindstrom is Lindros. Sennecke is Lemieux.

None of these defenseman (Karlsson, Hedman, Makar) looked like the D they became in their junior year.

Honest question, what is the next Hedman/Makar/Karlsson suppose to look like in his draft year?

All 3 of them have performed in uncharted territory. There is no comparative to what they did. Or if there is any comparative then they totally blew their performance. Buium draft year is miles ahead Power draft year, for example.

It don't mean they will reach this ceiling, it also mean nothing about their floor, but this type of uncharted performance comes with the highest ceiling there is.

Lindstrom to Lindros or Sennecke to Lemieux is futile because although these guy have great profile and strenght, their performance is much more in line with we see every year.

2019 have seen Byram, Broberg and Seider go top 10.
2020 Sanderson and Drysdale
2021 Power, Luke Hugues, Edvinsson and Brandt Clarke
2022 Nemec, Jiricek, Korchinski
2023 Reinbacher and Simashev

Buium, Parekh and Silayev have done things we haven't really seen before.

Whereas the forward we see in this 2024 draft have much more normal profile and its much more in line with what we saw in previous year. No one beside Celebrini has shown that mega upside we see with the D that comes with an uncharted performance.

 

[NotProkofievian]

None of these defenseman (Karlsson, Hedman, Makar) looked like the D they became in their junior year.

Honest question, what is the next Hedman/Makar/Karlsson suppose to look like in his draft year?

All 3 of them have performed in uncharted territory. There is no comparative to what they did. Or if there is any comparative then they totally blew their performance. Buium draft year is miles ahead Power draft year, for example.

It don't mean they will reach this ceiling, it also mean nothing about their floor, but this type of uncharted performance comes with the highest ceiling there is.

Lindstrom to Lindros or Sennecke to Lemieux is futile because although these guy have great profile and strenght, their performance is much more in line with we see every year.

2019 have seen Byram, Broberg and Seider go top 10.
2020 Sanderson and Drysdale
2021 Power, Luke Hugues, Edvinsson and Brandt Clarke
2022 Nemec, Jiricek, Korchinski
2023 Reinbacher and Simashev

Buium, Parekh and Silayev have done things we haven't really seen before.

Whereas the forward we see in this 2024 draft have much more normal profile and its much more in line with what we saw in previous year. No one beside Celebrini has shown that mega upside we see with the D that comes with an uncharted performance.

Actually, when you only count the games in which Sennecke scored, he scored every game. Think about it, might be closer to Lemieux than you think.

 

[WeThreeKings]

None of these defenseman (Karlsson, Hedman, Makar) looked like the D they became in their junior year.

Honest question, what is the next Hedman/Makar/Karlsson suppose to look like in his draft year?

All 3 of them have performed in uncharted territory. There is no comparative to what they did. Or if there is any comparative then they totally blew their performance. Buium draft year is miles ahead Power draft year, for example.

It don't mean they will reach this ceiling, it also mean nothing about their floor, but this type of uncharted performance comes with the highest ceiling there is.

Lindstrom to Lindros or Sennecke to Lemieux is futile because although these guy have great profile and strenght, their performance is much more in line with we see every year.

2019 have seen Byram, Broberg and Seider go top 10.
2020 Sanderson and Drysdale
2021 Power, Luke Hugues, Edvinsson and Brandt Clarke
2022 Nemec, Jiricek, Korchinski
2023 Reinbacher and Simashev

Buium, Parekh and Silayev have done things we haven't really seen before.

Whereas the forward we see in this 2024 draft have much more normal profile and its much more in line with what we saw in previous year. No one beside Celebrini has shown that mega upside we see with the D that comes with an uncharted performance.

Hedman was 2nd overall and in contention to go #1. None of these guys you are mentioning are even in the conversation for #2 in a draft year where it's wide open.

Every player drafted has a chance at being something really amazing. But just throwing out comparisons that make no sense because you like the guy, it just doesn't work.

Buium can't become Makar. There's no world where that could happen. He'd legitimately have to become one of the best skaters in the entire world from an extremely average skater. Those types of leaps in skating are just not done.

Silayev can't become Hedman.. he can't just invent the offensive tools out of thin air.

 

[Jaynki]

Hedman was 2nd overall and in contention to go #1. None of these guys you are mentioning are even in the conversation for #2 in a draft year where it's wide open.

Every player drafted has a chance at being something really amazing. But just throwing out comparisons that make no sense because you like the guy, it just doesn't work.

Buium can't become Makar. There's no world where that could happen. He'd legitimately have to become one of the best skaters in the entire world from an extremely average skater. Those types of leaps in skating are just not done.

Silayev can't become Hedman.. he can't just invent the offensive tools out of thin air.

Well lets just forget about names and replace it with special player with special upside.

Fact remains that the players that have done special things in the 2024 draft are defenseman.

 

[PavelBrendl]

All you bozos who have Sennecke ahead of Catton

 

[Team_Spirit]

Good morning, we double down on Buium today? Or maybe circle back to Demidov?

He passed the tinder test with flying marks. Being 5'11 would simply not cut it.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803752700447752288

 

[River Meadow]

Hedman was 2nd overall and in contention to go #1. None of these guys you are mentioning are even in the conversation for #2 in a draft year where it's wide open.

Every player drafted has a chance at being something really amazing. But just throwing out comparisons that make no sense because you like the guy, it just doesn't work.

Buium can't become Makar. There's no world where that could happen. He'd legitimately have to become one of the best skaters in the entire world from an extremely average skater. Those types of leaps in skating are just not done.

Silayev can't become Hedman.. he can't just invent the offensive tools out of thin air.

Dang, so this draft class really sucks huh...

=(

 

[NotProkofievian]

Dang, so this draft class really sucks huh...

=(

Except for the players I like, this draft is terrible.

 

[PavelBrendl]

Good morning, we double down on Buium today? Or maybe circle back to Demidov?

He passed the tinder test with flying marks. Being 5'11 would simply not cut it.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803752700447752288

Demidov 4eva

 

[Jaynki]

The problem with picking a D this year is that fans are convinced that we wont suck next year and we wont get to draft a skilled fwd anymore. But I'm convinced we will suck.

The problem with picking a F this year is that they are no Carlsson or Will Smith.

Fans are so obsessed with forward that they would rather settle for your average top 6F then for a potential top 10D in his prime.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Good morning, we double down on Buium today? Or maybe circle back to Demidov?

He passed the tinder test with flying marks. Being 5'11 would simply not cut it.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803752700447752288

It's simple for the habs.

1-Demigod
2-Lindstrom
3-Buium/Freaky Dicky Dickinson
4-Trade down

 

[WeThreeKings]

Dang, so this draft class really sucks huh...

=(

It's deeper at the top than last year but the top last year was leagues better.

We can still get a really good player but the hyperbole on players gets out of hand. Every prospect has a question mark or two, the whole exercise is whether that issue can be fixed or if it matters at all based on the other tools.

It's so wide open that there's not really an excuse for the Habs to go with a LD, though. If they do they have to be unequivocal that they'll be better than in house options and become a legitimate 1D and I can't arrive to that conclusion on any of them and neither can the greater scouting community. I don't expect that consensus to happen internally in Montreal either.

I've been wrong before.

 

[Schooner Guy]

Silayev can't become Hedman.. he can't just invent the offensive tools out of thin air.

Hedman's offensive potential was heavily scrutinized in advance of his draft.

Silayev set the KHL record for points by a U18 dman. He's still a very young kid...still a baby by KHL dman standards.

 

[CanadienShark]

Gm who's the pick today?

https://x.com/i/web/status/1800580804424405144

If the scouts like him, I'm ok with it. Those are skills that tend to translate to the NHL. I love how he's not afraid to play in the middle/traffic and gets the shot off very quick.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Good morning, we double down on Buium today? Or maybe circle back to Demidov?

He passed the tinder test with flying marks. Being 5'11 would simply not cut it.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803752700447752288

 

[WeThreeKings]

Hedman's offensive potential was heavily scrutinized in advance of his draft.

Silayev set the KHL record for points by a U18 dman. He's still a very young kid...still a baby by KHL dman standards.

I don't think it was at all, you can watch draft videos of the two if you want. Hedmans skill is evident, silayevs isn't at all. His goals are muffins.

 

[PavelBrendl]

If the scouts like him, I'm ok with it. Those are skills that tend to translate to the NHL. I love how he's not afraid to play in the middle/traffic and gets the shot off very quick.

Future superstar being slept on cuz he’s an inch too short. So skilled, smooth, poised, constantly scanning the ice for options and opportunities, and not afraid to attack the centre of the ice. Kid’s brain was wired to play hockey.

 

[Sorinth]

None of these defenseman (Karlsson, Hedman, Makar) looked like the D they became in their junior year.

Honest question, what is the next Hedman/Makar/Karlsson suppose to look like in his draft year?

All 3 of them have performed in uncharted territory. There is no comparative to what they did. Or if there is any comparative then they totally blew their performance. Buium draft year is miles ahead Power draft year, for example.

It don't mean they will reach this ceiling, it also mean nothing about their floor, but this type of uncharted performance comes with the highest ceiling there is.

Lindstrom to Lindros or Sennecke to Lemieux is futile because although these guy have great profile and strenght, their performance is much more in line with we see every year.

2019 have seen Byram, Broberg and Seider go top 10.
2020 Sanderson and Drysdale
2021 Power, Luke Hugues, Edvinsson and Brandt Clarke
2022 Nemec, Jiricek, Korchinski
2023 Reinbacher and Simashev

Buium, Parekh and Silayev have done things we haven't really seen before.

Whereas the forward we see in this 2024 draft have much more normal profile and its much more in line with what we saw in previous year. No one beside Celebrini has shown that mega upside we see with the D that comes with an uncharted performance.

What it should really tell you is that talk of ceiling is basically nonsense.

 

[Benstheman]

It's simple for the habs.

1-Demigod
2-Lindstrom
3-Buium/Freaky Dicky Dickinson
4-Trade down

For me, Levshunov > Big slick Dick Dickinson > Buium

So we wouldn't have to trade down :

1-Demidov
2-Levshunov
3-Lindstrom
4-Dickinson

 

[Jaynki]

What it should really tell you is that talk of ceiling is basically nonsense.

Speculative.

Not nonsense

 

[Sorinth]

Speculative.

Not nonsense

If your speculating that Buium can become one of the best skaters in the NHL or that Silayev can become a ppg player without having shown any offence then you can speculate anyone could become anything which does make it nonsense.