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Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%

  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%

  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%

  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%

  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%

  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%
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BeliveauFan4ever

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Jaynki said:
You want the next Makar, go Buium.

You want the next Hedman, go Silayev.

You want the next Karlsson, go Parekh.

It does not mean these players will reach their upside and it says nothing about their floor, but clearly, with their uncomparable draft year, their ceiling is that high.

No other forward in the draft class (beside Macklin obv) and no other D in this class has this type of mega upside.

Many, many great profile indeed. Some great fit for our top-6 need but no other players in the class, imo, has this type of upside. Well Demidov.
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Mrb1p said:
If it's not one of then it's one of the Ds. There's a lot of talent in the top 20.
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Your final list in a week or so?
 
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I think it's the first year I am ok with whoever they take and think has the most potential. I trust that scouting and development team. They were right with Slaf and after watch Reinbacher in Laval I am sure they were right with him too, add Hutson Beck Engstrom Fowler to that
 
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BeliveauFan4ever said:
The gap between the prime Karlsson and prime Oste

Your final list in a week or so?
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Well if a D like Dickinson or Saliyev that the Kraken really likem is available, that would probably be the price to pay at minimum. If Seattle wants to move up three spots (and Demidov and Lindstrom are already picked) the price is a late first which they don't have, so I will settle for one...
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Published this a few weeks ago, I'll have the updated version in a few days, I'll try to comment the first 20ish picks too. I've been watching a lot of Solberg and he's changing my data a bunch.
 
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These comparisons for the defenseman are hilarious. Buium is Makar just without the generational skating (skating is an area of improvement not a strength) and elite shot.

Silayev is Hedman, just you know without the offensive game.

Parekh is Karlsson, if Karlsson was offensively only his shot.

Might as well say Demidov is Lafleur. Lindstrom is Lindros. Sennecke is Lemieux.
 
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Silayev is Chara most experts compare him too
WeThreeKings said:
These comparisons for the defenseman are hilarious. Buium is Makar just without the generational skating (skating is an area of improvement not a strength) and elite shot.

Silayev is Hedman, just you know without the offensive game.

Parekh is Karlsson, if Karlsson was offensively only his shot.

Might as well say Demidov is Lafleur. Lindstrom is Lindros. Sennecke is Lemieux
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WeThreeKings said:
These comparisons for the defenseman are hilarious. Buium is Makar just without the generational skating (skating is an area of improvement not a strength) and elite shot.

Silayev is Hedman, just you know without the offensive game.

Parekh is Karlsson, if Karlsson was offensively only his shot.

Might as well say Demidov is Lafleur. Lindstrom is Lindros. Sennecke is Lemieux.
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None of these defenseman (Karlsson, Hedman, Makar) looked like the D they became in their junior year.

Honest question, what is the next Hedman/Makar/Karlsson suppose to look like in his draft year?

All 3 of them have performed in uncharted territory. There is no comparative to what they did. Or if there is any comparative then they totally blew their performance. Buium draft year is miles ahead Power draft year, for example.

It don't mean they will reach this ceiling, it also mean nothing about their floor, but this type of uncharted performance comes with the highest ceiling there is.

Lindstrom to Lindros or Sennecke to Lemieux is futile because although these guy have great profile and strenght, their performance is much more in line with we see every year.

2019 have seen Byram, Broberg and Seider go top 10.
2020 Sanderson and Drysdale
2021 Power, Luke Hugues, Edvinsson and Brandt Clarke
2022 Nemec, Jiricek, Korchinski
2023 Reinbacher and Simashev

Buium, Parekh and Silayev have done things we haven't really seen before.

Whereas the forward we see in this 2024 draft have much more normal profile and its much more in line with what we saw in previous year. No one beside Celebrini has shown that mega upside we see with the D that comes with an uncharted performance.
 

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Jaynki said:
None of these defenseman (Karlsson, Hedman, Makar) looked like the D they became in their junior year.

Honest question, what is the next Hedman/Makar/Karlsson suppose to look like in his draft year?

All 3 of them have performed in uncharted territory. There is no comparative to what they did. Or if there is any comparative then they totally blew their performance. Buium draft year is miles ahead Power draft year, for example.

It don't mean they will reach this ceiling, it also mean nothing about their floor, but this type of uncharted performance comes with the highest ceiling there is.

Lindstrom to Lindros or Sennecke to Lemieux is futile because although these guy have great profile and strenght, their performance is much more in line with we see every year.

2019 have seen Byram, Broberg and Seider go top 10.
2020 Sanderson and Drysdale
2021 Power, Luke Hugues, Edvinsson and Brandt Clarke
2022 Nemec, Jiricek, Korchinski
2023 Reinbacher and Simashev

Buium, Parekh and Silayev have done things we haven't really seen before.

Whereas the forward we see in this 2024 draft have much more normal profile and its much more in line with what we saw in previous year. No one beside Celebrini has shown that mega upside we see with the D that comes with an uncharted performance.
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Actually, when you only count the games in which Sennecke scored, he scored every game. Think about it, might be closer to Lemieux than you think.
 
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Jaynki said:
None of these defenseman (Karlsson, Hedman, Makar) looked like the D they became in their junior year.

Honest question, what is the next Hedman/Makar/Karlsson suppose to look like in his draft year?

All 3 of them have performed in uncharted territory. There is no comparative to what they did. Or if there is any comparative then they totally blew their performance. Buium draft year is miles ahead Power draft year, for example.

It don't mean they will reach this ceiling, it also mean nothing about their floor, but this type of uncharted performance comes with the highest ceiling there is.

Lindstrom to Lindros or Sennecke to Lemieux is futile because although these guy have great profile and strenght, their performance is much more in line with we see every year.

2019 have seen Byram, Broberg and Seider go top 10.
2020 Sanderson and Drysdale
2021 Power, Luke Hugues, Edvinsson and Brandt Clarke
2022 Nemec, Jiricek, Korchinski
2023 Reinbacher and Simashev

Buium, Parekh and Silayev have done things we haven't really seen before.

Whereas the forward we see in this 2024 draft have much more normal profile and its much more in line with what we saw in previous year. No one beside Celebrini has shown that mega upside we see with the D that comes with an uncharted performance.
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Hedman was 2nd overall and in contention to go #1. None of these guys you are mentioning are even in the conversation for #2 in a draft year where it's wide open.

Every player drafted has a chance at being something really amazing. But just throwing out comparisons that make no sense because you like the guy, it just doesn't work.

Buium can't become Makar. There's no world where that could happen. He'd legitimately have to become one of the best skaters in the entire world from an extremely average skater. Those types of leaps in skating are just not done.

Silayev can't become Hedman.. he can't just invent the offensive tools out of thin air.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
Hedman was 2nd overall and in contention to go #1. None of these guys you are mentioning are even in the conversation for #2 in a draft year where it's wide open.

Every player drafted has a chance at being something really amazing. But just throwing out comparisons that make no sense because you like the guy, it just doesn't work.

Buium can't become Makar. There's no world where that could happen. He'd legitimately have to become one of the best skaters in the entire world from an extremely average skater. Those types of leaps in skating are just not done.

Silayev can't become Hedman.. he can't just invent the offensive tools out of thin air.
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Well lets just forget about names and replace it with special player with special upside.

Fact remains that the players that have done special things in the 2024 draft are defenseman.
 
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All you bozos who have Sennecke ahead of Catton

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WeThreeKings said:
Hedman was 2nd overall and in contention to go #1. None of these guys you are mentioning are even in the conversation for #2 in a draft year where it's wide open.

Every player drafted has a chance at being something really amazing. But just throwing out comparisons that make no sense because you like the guy, it just doesn't work.

Buium can't become Makar. There's no world where that could happen. He'd legitimately have to become one of the best skaters in the entire world from an extremely average skater. Those types of leaps in skating are just not done.

Silayev can't become Hedman.. he can't just invent the offensive tools out of thin air.
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Dang, so this draft class really sucks huh...

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Skip Bayless said:
The problem with picking a D this year is that fans are convinced that we wont suck next year and we wont get to draft a skilled fwd anymore. But I'm convinced we will suck.
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The problem with picking a F this year is that they are no Carlsson or Will Smith.

Fans are so obsessed with forward that they would rather settle for your average top 6F then for a potential top 10D in his prime.
 
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