HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Mrb1p]

If Reinbacher becomes Pietrangelo 2.0 and michkov becomes kaprizov 2.0, would you be alright with the pick then?

If we have Pietrangelo already in Guhle and Hutson and ... and ... and and our best two forwards are Slaf and Suzuki and after that 50 points forwards no.

 

[River Meadow]

McGagg isn't the hero we deserve, but the hero we need right now.

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Demain à midi.

C'est quoi la joke sti? Il a dit qu'il la sortait le 24. Pfft!

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

If we have Pietrangelo already in Guhle and Hutson and ... and ... and and our best two forwards are Slaf and Suzuki and after that 50 points forwards no.

Did you just compare Hutson to Pietrangelo? Also forwards are the most overrated players come playoff time. It's all about mitigating mistakes. Defenceman are much more valuable. Guhle and Reinbacher will probably situate different pairings. The effect of top tier D will always be greater than that of top tier Fs

 

[Schooner Guy]

C'est quoi la joke sti? Il a dit qu'il la sortait le 24. Pfft!

At the time, they weren't expecting the season to be still going on this late. No way Bob and TSN were going to release them on game day of Game 7 of the SCF.

 

[GrandmaCookie]

Did you just compare Hutson to Pietrangelo? Also forwards are the most overrated players come playoff time. It's all about mitigating mistakes. Defenceman are much more valuable. Guhle and Reinbacher will probably situate different pairings. The effect of top tier D will always be greater than that of top tier Fs

Think he compared Reinbacher (if he reaches his potential) to Pietrangelo which is the hypothetical scenario you suggested.

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

Why this reaction on Levshunov? I share the same qualms with Sennecke at 5.

Quickest way to sum it up: he's all tools to me at this point. I have this odd feeling his career ark will look more like Jack Johnson's than any of the HOFers Pronman keeps comparing him to.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

Think he compared Reinbacher (if he reaches his potential) to Pietrangelo which is the hypothetical scenario you suggested.

Bro needs to add a comma to his work to seperate his ideas then. It read as if Habs already have Pietrangelo in Guhle AND Hutson....

 

[GrandmaCookie]

Bro needs to add a comma to his work to seperate his ideas then. It read as if Habs already have Pietrangelo in Guhle AND Hutson....

again pure guess, but I think he made a typo and wanted to say Pietrangelo (as in Reinbacher) AND Ghule AND Hutson as per the tone of the rest of his post with all the other and and and.

 

[Mrb1p]

Did you just compare Hutson to Pietrangelo? Also forwards are the most overrated players come playoff time. It's all about mitigating mistakes. Defenceman are much more valuable. Guhle and Reinbacher will probably situate different pairings. The effect of top tier D will always be greater than that of top tier Fs

The two teams in the SCF have no good Ds basically. I mean Foesling and Ekblad aren't bad but they're not out of the realm of anything we have.

The forwards we dont have.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

The two teams in the SCF have no good Ds basically. I mean Foesling and Ekblad aren't bad but they're not out of the realm of anything we have.

The forwards we dont have.

? Bouchard and Ekholm are absolutely good Ds

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

The two teams in the SCF have no good Ds basically. I mean Foesling and Ekblad aren't bad but they're not out of the realm of anything we have.

The forwards we dont have.

Ok sure but I could hit right back with saying the last 5 SC winners had great defences. Also you're pretending that Florida won from offensive star power. What wins most times than not is good defence and great depth.

 

[Habs7631]

There’s multiple ways to skin a cat. Different types of roster can win a cup. You just need a very good team and a lot of luck along the way.

Copy cat league where whoever team wins people go like “we should copy them”. Until another team with a different style win and now it’s “we should copy them”.

Also the oilers are impossible to replicate. We’re not drafting a Draisaitl let alone a McDavid no matter how hard we try.

 

[Toene]

The two teams in the SCF have no good Ds basically. I mean Foesling and Ekblad aren't bad but they're not out of the realm of anything we have.

The forwards we dont have.

I'd say thay Ekholm, Ekblad, Forsling, Bouchard are top-pairing defensemen. The depth defensemen are what made a difference here. Kulikov, Oel and co. were better than Nurse, Ceci, Desharnais, Kulak.

 

[salbutera]

I'd say thay Ekholm, Ekblad, Forsling, Bouchard are top-pairing defensemen. The depth defensemen are what made a difference here. Kulikov, Oel and co. were better than Nurse, Ceci, Desharnais, Kulak.

And Bobrovsky clearly won battle of G + Fla
Team D as well in the series - especially game 7 winner takes all

 

[FrankMTL]

Just for reference, before we get Mckenzie's updated rankings later this morning, here are his post lottery rankings from early May:

1- Celebrini
2- Demidov
3- Silayev
4- Levshunov
5- Lindstrom
6- Dickinson
7- Parekh
8- Buium
9- Helenius
10- Iginla
11- Catton
12- Yakemchuk
13- Eiserman
14- Sennecke
15- Connelly

It will be interesting to see who has moved up and down and these rankings.

 

[BergevinBurner]

Just for reference, before we get Mckenzie's updated rankings later this morning, here are his post lottery rankings from early May:

1- Celebrini
2- Demidov
3- Silayev
4- Levshunov
5- Lindstrom
6- Dickinson
7- Parekh
8- Buium
9- Helenius
10- Iginla
11- Catton
12- Yakemchuk
13- Eiserman
14- Sennecke
15- Connelly

It will be interesting to see who has moved up and down and these rankings.

I don't think we'll see any change in the top 5 unless Dickinson or Buium kick Lindstrom out of it.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Just for reference, before we get Mckenzie's updated rankings later this morning, here are his post lottery rankings from early May:

1- Celebrini
2- Demidov
3- Silayev
4- Levshunov
5- Lindstrom
6- Dickinson
7- Parekh
8- Buium
9- Helenius
10- Iginla
11- Catton
12- Yakemchuk
13- Eiserman
14- Sennecke
15- Connelly

It will be interesting to see who has moved up and down and these rankings.

What time is it released ?

 

[Habs Halifax]

Some reports push several of the D as #1 D candidates, but others suggest flaws and difficulties translating their games.

I was pushing for D, but st this point maybe Silayev if there is a run on forwards top 4?

I expect the habs think they can work with some guys. Demidov’s knees worry me, he has unusual skating and knee injuries, maybe his style makes him vulnerable?

I was somewhat down on Sennecke and meh on Iginla, but maybe they would be they would be the best picks. There may not be top line or top pairing talent and that is normal got 5OA.

Reports show promise and ceiling level narratives. It's like this every year but when you look back in 1 or 2 years, the narrative changes quickly on many of them.

However, this draft does have more than the average talent in the top 13 or top 14. Maybe there are less misses this year. Not sure.

To be honest, I'll be happy with whoever the Habs pick. We can find reasons to support any guy in that 2-13 range. Same as Reinbacher last year, he was not my pick but I know why they did it and he was a target by many teams from what I remember.

Bob's list is out today

Just for reference, before we get Mckenzie's updated rankings later this morning, here are his post lottery rankings from early May:

1- Celebrini
2- Demidov
3- Silayev
4- Levshunov
5- Lindstrom
6- Dickinson
7- Parekh
8- Buium
9- Helenius
10- Iginla
11- Catton
12- Yakemchuk
13- Eiserman
14- Sennecke
15- Connelly

It will be interesting to see who has moved up and down and these rankings.

I also like looking at his September, Mid Season, May, and End of season rankings. The variations are something I evaluate a bit in the popular BPA consensus.

I think we will see a fair amount of movement.

What time is it released ?

My guess is around lunch eastern time or shortly after.

 

[badfish]

What time is it released ?

Pretty sure I read it shows on tv at 11 am on TSN , then the article is published at 11:30

 

[BergevinBurner]

What time is it released ?

The draft rankings show runs from 11:00-11:30am, so it'll be released during that window. Then they're having a mock draft after. If McKenzie's input is used to create the mock draft then it should give us a pretty good idea of how the top 5 might shake out.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I'd say thay Ekholm, Ekblad, Forsling, Bouchard are top-pairing defensemen. The depth defensemen are what made a difference here. Kulikov, Oel and co. were better than Nurse, Ceci, Desharnais, Kulak.

I personally don't have 64 top pairing D in the NHL (32 teams x2) but I probably have 128 top 4D. Easier to define a top 4D vs a top pairing. Top pairing and 1C are high levels most can't hold for more than 3 seasons.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I'll guess the updated top 10 for McKenzie is:

1. Celebrini
2. Levshunov
3. Demidov
4. Silayev
5. Lindstrom
6. Buium
7. Sennecke
8. Parekh
9. Dickinson
10. Iginla

 

[BergevinBurner]

I'll guess the updated top 10 for McKenzie is:

1. Celebrini
2. Levshunov
3. Demidov
4. Silayev
5. Lindstrom
6. Buium
7. Sennecke
8. Parekh
9. Dickinson
10. Iginla

I'd guess it'll be pretty similar to this. I'd swap Demidov and Levshunov though since I think Demidov's stock has only risen since May, and I think scouts will be higher on Dickinson than Parekh.

 

[Doublechin]

I'd guess it'll be pretty similar to this. I'd swap Demidov and Levshunov though since I think Demidov's stock has only risen since May, and I think scouts will be higher on Dickinson than Parekh.

And Levshunov's stock didn't?
I really think it's 50/50 for those two at 2