HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[CapSpace]

This draft is gonna be very exciting.

I really do hope we'd take a shot at that hothead russian Surin with our 26th pick.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Are you willing to put faith that Byram turns into a top pairing stud after the age of 22 and know what we know today? That was just one example of someone who was pumped very high and many liked him a lot!

I would not bet more than 1 or 2 top pairing guys in this draft. Lots of top 4D though.

The 2-10 or 2-13 is wild. Lots of talent to choose from on both D and F but very difficult to establish BPA (list one after another).

It is not that I would necessarily bet that Byram becomes a top pairing D which is a subjective term and some would take that to mean that he would need to supplant Dahlin as the number one LHD at some point. The real point is that it does not make sense at all to write him off as a non top pairing dman after just finishing his 22 year old season and having battled enormous injury issues. Byram absolutely still has top pairing upside, whether he raeches this blurry line or not remains to be seen.....if indeed it ultimately can be seen.

 

[sampollock]

I am already prepared for the following events to unfold on the 28th of June:

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Martin Lapoine : "Nick, Columbus just took Lindstrom. We are picking after the commercial break. Demidov is on the board, so is Iginla, Buium and Dickinson. Who are we going with"

Nick Brobov: "I think Sam Dickinson and Buium have the potential to become fantastic defenseman".

Kent Hughes: "Aren't we already loaded at LD tho?"

Nick Brobov : "Always go for BPA Kent. Remember Reinbacher last season: see how he performed last season in the last 10 games with the Rockets?"

Martin Lapointe : "He is right Kent, I think those defenseman are too high profile to pass on. I say we pick the first on our list".


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Kent Hughes: "With the 5th Overall selection of the 2024 entry draft, the Montreal Canadiens are proud to select, from the OHL London Knights: Sam Dickinson".

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Sam Dickinson: " I am so proud of being part of this historical organisation. I compare myself stylistically to Kaiden Ghule, I can't wait to meet him and learn from his experience".

and this board melts down

 

[Paddy17]

That's kinda what I mean. His best moments look very good. More fluid and more spectacular than Iginla's. But Iginla has 3 good moments to Sennecke's every 2 in my estimation. Maybe 4 to 3.

What's worth more? I can't say for sure right now.

And sometimes, simple efficiency works better than spectacular (see Matheson complaints). For me, Iginla plays a very translatable style of game. He can be a 30-30 guy, who will be just as effective in the playoffs. That's worth a lot in today's NHL. He's still very young, so I don't know if his ceiling can even be higher. There's less uncertainty because he's very mature and professional about his training and hockey already. For me, he has the Qwan (Jerry McGuire anyone?).

But like I said previously, I would be happy with any of Lindstrom, Sennecke or Iginla if Demidov is gone. But right now, if there's a choice to make, that's where my guts are leaning (Iggy).

 

[Balthazar]

It is not that I would necessarily bet that Byram becomes a top pairing D which is a subjective term and some would take that to mean that he would need to supplant Dahlin as the number one LHD at some point. The real point is that it does not make sense at all to write him off as a non top pairing dman after just finishing his 22 year old season and having battled enormous injury issues. Byram absolutely still has top pairing upside, whether he raeches this blurry line or not remains to be seen.....if indeed it ultimately can be seen.

Yea Byram is not a finished product as he missed nearly 2 seasons of development because of concussion issues. He also happened to play behind the best offensive defenseman in the league who eats a lot of minutes so his opportunities in Colorado were limited.

That was a terrible example from the other poster.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

It’s not Parekh’s D that concerns me.

And Saginaw played great five-man D; very structured and passing lanes became turnover lanes.

Parekh, from what I saw of him, doesn’t like physicality. I saw that stick come up when about to be hit.

That can be ‘fixed’ and I can view his spitting at two Kingston players as a one-time-only thing, but overall he just didn’t promote any “man, the Habs could use this guy!” when I saw him.

Certainly Didn’t earn a ‘character’ label.

His defensive effort is terrible and I seriously question his maturity. He reminds me of a young D version of Kadri who took years to tame into a responsible hockey player.

I have watched him and his brothers for over a decade so it is not as though this is something new to me. There is a lot of talent there but there are a lot of flags as well. He does have an edge and doesn't mind throwing hits or getting in opponents faces but he definitely avoids getting hit and purposely conserves energy in the dzone in order to use it on offence if one of his teammates can make a stop and turn the puck over.

 

[Jaynki]

He met with the Habs

https://x.com/i/web/status/1805292090597032139

Non news.

Guarantee that the top 15 players all have met with the Habs, let alone the top 5.

Would be lunacy to not meet him.

 

[Jack Skellington]

I think the last time there was close to a consensus here for a pick was Caufield. Hutson may have been but I wasn't on the board that day lol.

Lol I used the 26th on him in a mock draft

 

[Sam I Am]

PLAN A

1. We draft Demidov
2. We use trading chips (matheson) to get Mcgroarty out of WPG

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Demidov- Dach - Mcgroarty
Newhook - Beck - Roy

Hutson - Reinbacher
Guhle - Mailloux

PLAN B

If Demidov is off the board when we pick

1. We draft Dickinson
2. We trade Mailloux and WPG first rounder for Zegras
3. We use trading chips (matheson) to get Mcgroarty out of WPG

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Zegras - Dach - Mcgroarty
Newhook - Beck - Roy

Dickinson - Reinbacher
Hutson - Guhle

PLAN C

If Demidov and Dickinson are off the board when we pick

1. We draft Buium
2. We trade Hutson for Zegras
3. We use trading chips (matheson) to get Mcgroarty out of WPG

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Zegras - Dach - Mcgroarty
Newhook - Beck - Roy

Buium - Reinbacher
Guhle - Mailloux

PLAN D

If Demidov, Dickinson and Buium are off the board when we pick

1. We draft Ignila or Lindstrom
2. We use trading chips (matheson) to get Mcgroarty out of WPG

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Ignila/Lindstrom - Dach - Mcgroarty
Newhook - Beck - Roy

Hutson- Reinbacher
Guhle - Mailloux



Lots of possibilities....

Good post.

Couple of points. Each one of your scenarios has McGroarty slotted in as the RW on the 2nd line. First of all, this is far from a sure bet. His performance last season in the NCAA was solid but 16 goals does not scream triggerman at the NHL level. What's more, I'm not convinced that a 30 year old Matheson is what the Jets would demand in return. He'd help, sure, but with Morrissey firmly established as the team's number one LD, the Jets may want to address other areas of concern.

Also, your Plan C involves replacing Huston with Buium as the team's premier offensive defender. This after Huston has played all of two professional games (but nonetheless managed to pull Habs fans out of their seats in both). Is it so absolutely clear that Buium is an upgrade? What if Huston goes on the be a superstar in Anaheim, and Buium is merely solid with the Habs? Not to mention the risk that surrounds Zegras....

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

and this board melts down

At this point I think Jeff Gorton would pull a veto and announce the pick himself. He mentioned that elite forwards (*michkov) only fall to you every once in a while and he allowed his scouting team to go a different route. It won't happen again. Remember at the end of the day, he's the boss and they all work under him, even Kent Hughes

 

[Sam I Am]

There are a few on your list that are not top pairing. I would say 50-66% of them are though. There is a fair amount of the guys you listed as lower end top pairing and higher end top 4D. That's exactly what I am talking about with Silayev. A strong top 4D. The issue here is thinking that some guys are top pairing when they have 1 or 2 good seasons and the rest are more like top 4D quality. Personally, I don't have 64 top pairing guys in the NHL today (32 teams x 2). Just because some guys are in that role to fill the hole, it don't mean they are for all teams kind of thing. Same as Suzuki... #1C on the Habs but not on 15+ teams in the NHL.

That's 8 drafts and I'm assuming you looked from the 2000 draft? 8 in 24 drafts where you found 2+ hits as top pairing. This draft year might be one of those where 2-4 happens? Doubt it

You seem to be conflating top pairing with HOF!

Your definition of a top pairing seems to be Norris caliber defenseman. No, those are candidate for top 5 best defenseman in the league, not first pairing defenseman.

Teams more often than not don't have on the regular the likes of Suter, Werenski, Jones, Reilly, Chabot, Morrissey, etc. on their second pairing. Those defenseman would slot in as #2 on the first pair on most team and as #1 defenseman in low level team. To me that is the definition of a first pairing defenseman. You are not gonna get 4 Makar/Karlsson in this season's draft this is common sense. Like you are not going to find 4 Draisaitl level forward this year's draft.

There is a difference between superstar (McDavid, MacKinnon, Kucherov) and first liner (Aho, Barkov, Barzal). Doesn't mean the second group are just "strong 2nd liner").

Exactly. Well put.

 

[Zilo44]

I am already prepared for the following events to unfold on the 28th of June:

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Martin Lapoine : "Nick, Columbus just took Lindstrom. We are picking after the commercial break. Demidov is on the board, so is Iginla, Buium and Dickinson. Who are we going with"

Nick Brobov: "I think Sam Dickinson and Buium have the potential to become fantastic defenseman".

Kent Hughes: "Aren't we already loaded at LD tho?"

Nick Brobov : "Always go for BPA Kent. Remember Reinbacher last season: see how he performed last season in the last 10 games with the Rockets?"

Martin Lapointe : "He is right Kent, I think those defenseman are too high profile to pass on. I say we pick the first on our list".


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Kent Hughes: "With the 5th Overall selection of the 2024 entry draft, the Montreal Canadiens are proud to select, from the OHL London Knights: Sam Dickinson".

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Sam Dickinson: " I am so proud of being part of this historical organisation. I compare myself stylistically to Kaiden Ghule, I can't wait to meet him and learn from his experience".

More like :

Bobrov : I really think this Silayev kid can transition to C in a few years. Love the versatility

 

[Jack Skellington]

Doesn't Basu do a podcast usually on Monday

 

[Skip Bayless]

Doesn't Basu do a podcast usually on Monday

Don't tell the Harpoon Bazoong what to do.

 

[Shutdown]

Canadiens Draft Preview: Montreal enters week as one of NHL's biggest wild cards

It’s the beginning of a week that could be transformational for the Montreal Canadiens, and not just because they have two first-round picks Friday and nine other picks at their disposal for Rounds 2-7 Saturday to make their team better.

www.sportsnet.ca

ONE BOLD PREDICTION

If the Canadiens don’t find a trade for a bona fide top-six forward that makes sense to them, I think they’ll try to package the 26th pick with other assets to acquire another top-10 pick.

Under this scenario, they could select two future core players and turn to free agency to fill more immediate needs.

It’s anything but assured they’ll be able to make such a move, but that’s why they call it a bold prediction.


this has been my hope for weeks now. i assume the targets would be Sennecke, Catton, and maybe even Eiserman

 

[sampollock]

Canadiens Draft Preview: Montreal enters week as one of NHL's biggest wild cards

It’s the beginning of a week that could be transformational for the Montreal Canadiens, and not just because they have two first-round picks Friday and nine other picks at their disposal for Rounds 2-7 Saturday to make their team better.

www.sportsnet.ca

ONE BOLD PREDICTION

If the Canadiens don’t find a trade for a bona fide top-six forward that makes sense to them, I think they’ll try to package the 26th pick with other assets to acquire another top-10 pick.

Under this scenario, they could select two future core players and turn to free agency to fill more immediate needs.

It’s anything but assured they’ll be able to make such a move, but that’s why they call it a bold prediction.


this has been my hope for weeks now. i assume the targets would be Sennecke, Catton, and maybe even Eiserman

get lidstrom and Sennecke
win win win

 

[Jack Skellington]

Don't tell the Harpoon Bazoong what to do.

I want to hear that now it's Iginla that were taking so more people can freak out

 

[Team_Spirit]

It seems so because consuming a gallon of milk a day is a fantastic way to get fat for most people, even athletes

At 20 years old with his hormonal profile, a couple of months in the gym with a +/- 300-500 calorie surplus should suffice, not downing jugs of milk like a lardaass

You look like a milk bag is the unbeaten best ever chirp. Ryan Kesler iirc

I really recommend reading this guy's take on Silayev. His entire write-up of the draft is great.

NHL Draft Ranking 2024, by Simon St-L.

NHL Draft Ranking 2024, by Simon St-L. - TSLH -

www.toutsurlehockey.com

Silayev met with the Habs

Here go red here we go ~~~~

https://x.com/i/web/status/1763618592879251727

 

[Skip Bayless]

I want to hear that now it's Iginla that were taking so more people can freak out

There's too many good players to freak out IMO. My top picks are Demidov, Lindstrom and Buium. But I'd be good with guys like Iggy, Freaky Dicky Dickinson and Catton.

Although in Lindstrom's case, I'm still debating internally wether to officially place him in my DND list because of the herniated disc. I know many people who suffered that injury and life constantly gets worse.

 

[ReHabs]

They either need an ultra elite talent like demidov or elite players that play on the inside where the team needs to start playing in order to be effective. Habs have Suzuki, Dach, and Slaf who can make plays and are heavy puck dominant players. Iginla and Lindstrom would compliment this team way more than catton

Catton's an ultra-elite talent.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

Doesn't Basu do a podcast usually on Monday

Comes out in the evening usually. Anywhere from 5-7pm EST

 

[sampollock]

Catton's an ultra-elite talent.

does KH take him? Sasky boy

 

[ReHabs]

does KH take him? Sasky boy

I think 90% of the fanbase would be pleasantly surprised to see Catton taken. But I don't know, because there could be legitimately better prospects left up.

If it goes

1. Celebrini
2. Demidov
3. Silayev
4. Lindstrom
5. I would take Catton yes, and I think he's BPA for the Habs then.

But if one of the above four is available... oh boy, it's tough to say. I, personally, wouldn't take Lindstrom over him but the draw of another unicorn forward is too much for HuGoBo I think.

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

2024 NHL entry draft - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Guy Larose]

2024 NHL entry draft - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I can definitely see that with the Russian factor, winger, etc