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Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%

  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%

  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%

  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%

  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%

  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%
  • Total voters
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HuGo Burner Acc said:
First of all, fo not mention superstars cause they are the exception. Kane, st Louis, kucherov, Yzerman, Sakic, etc. I'm not saying it can't happen it's just the exception not the rule. So if we're all basing analysis off of exceptions, fine. We'll look smart every once in a while but it'll mostly be bad takes. Also teams that perform big like Tampa allowed player like point to thrive. Not to mention he was playing with a top 5 player in the league.

I don't give absolutes but that often but I prefer players that have an edge to their game. Even if they're under sized. Everyone is pointing to my talking about cartons size but they don't mention how i also tied that to his play style and how it probably won't translate. Doesn't mean he'll be effective just not by how he was in juniors
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A very smart player adapt easily at the next level
 
Rapala said:
Yup any negativity and drama has been Media driven Social or otherwise.
Not once did I witness any degree of disenchantment during games at the Bell Center
The closet we got was actually at the draft but it was very sporadic and very short lived I was there and it's not even worth mentioning.
The Reinbacher fiasco was far worse but once again it played out in the Media.
I expect we will see more noise this draft and once again limited to the Media it is what it is.
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I don't think it was members of the media sending him death threats and comparing him to Hitler after the Habs drafted him.
 
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skidcells said:
Reading the comments, if it ever comes down to Demidov v Buium, there’s a fair amount of people that will get absolutely shocked with the pick and have a meltdown.

I won’t like it and will never like it, but at least I got over the first set of emotions (anger, despair).
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If Demidov is there at 5. Or, it's going to be Buium vs Iginla (Or Lindstrom).
 
HabzSauce said:
You gotta think there's a plan tho if they do feel Buium is their guy and take him. Would make for one damn exciting summer
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They’re going to do what they’re going to do. But if we don’t take a forward I’m gonna be pissed. Last year was could understand but this year we need a forward.
 
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Lafleurs Guy said:
They’re going to do what they’re going to do. But if we don’t take a forward I’m gonna be pissed. Last year was could understand but this year we need a forward.
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In the unlikely event that the draft goes Celibrini,Demidov,Lidstrom and Iginla, who is your pick at #5?
 
HuGo Burner Acc said:
Not many small players dominate in the playoffs while being heavy pick dominant players. Superstars (actual ones) are the exception. They are less than 10 of those in the league btw so it won't apply to Catton I can pretty much guarantee it. Players like point have the privilege of playing with one of those superstars. Star Players like Gaudreau that are puck dominant tend to regress in the playoffs for a reason. Teams force them to the outside and they can't adapt as well. Also the teams where smaller guys tend to do well are usually bigger teams like Vegas, Florida, etc that play big and allow their smaller players to have more time and space to get on the inside
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So Catton just has to play on a bigger team like **Florida** to do well in the playoffs!

You might be surprised to find out that Florida is not a bigger team. They have only 4 forwards in their lineup (4/12) that are bigger/heavier than Alex Newhook. Just one on each line. Same with the D - 3/6, one on each pairing.
 
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Ozmodiar said:
So Catton just has to play on a bigger team like **Florida** to do well in the playoffs!

You might be surprised to find out that Florida is not a bigger team. They have only 4 forwards in their lineup (4/12) that are bigger/heavier than Alex Newhook. Just one on each line. Same with the D - 3/6, one on each pairing.
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They don't play small tho. They play in your face hockey. Again my point isn't Catton will suck. I think he'll be a pretty good player. Just not the type of player Habs need right now for the purpose of team building. And I don't know if you think this is a crappy take but I don't think he'll be nearly as good as demidov
 
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Rapala said:
Playing with McDavid and is more like Dave Andreychuck he of the one to two foot goals.
I don't know anyone personally who would call Hyman a sniper. That usually requires shooting from distance.
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Was John LeClair qualified as a sniper? IMO Hyman’s developed a very similar game stylistically..
 
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salbutera said:
Was John LeClair qualified as a sniper? IMO Hyman’s developed a very similar game stylistically..
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Nope LeClair was a power forward first and foremost as are the two players mentioned previously.
They can all shoot the puck but that wasn't what they were known for.
Brett Hull and Mike Bossy Steve Shutt were all snipers there is a huge difference stylistically they rely on their shot to score goals.
 
HuGo Burner Acc said:
They don't play small tho. They play in your face hockey. Again my point isn't Catton will suck. I think he'll be a pretty good player. Just not the type of player Habs need right now for the purpose of team building. And I don't know if you think this is a crappy take but I don't think he'll be nearly as good as demidov
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The Habs don't need a top-tier playmaker type of player?
 
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How much do you guys think the Habs care about these NCAA guys pulling these stunt? Fox, Schultz, Gauthier and now McGroarty.

We had to burn a year off Hutson ELC and didn’t that Luke Tuch guy tried to play games couple months ago before signing at the last minute? He wanted a game too to burn a year or something or he’d sign with Buffalo where his brother play?
 
SOLR said:
Now try to explain how skating can be magically detached from IQ since it's mainly a coordination challenge. And how a fast player need to process the game often 30-40% faster than a slower player (Suzuki who is average). Matheson is higher IQ than Suzuki, his issue: he would have to be even higher IQ to just look like Suzuki who plays the same 10-15 plays over and over. Being a forward is a lot simpler than being a D.

The reverse case: Ribeiro was smart but was also slow, ie. a lot of his processing was going to recognizing patterns vs. moving.

The absolute case: McDavid is 2-3 standard of deviation faster, with the pattern recognition of Ribeiro (no tradeoff).
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I don't understand how can someone watch Matheson and come to the conclusion that he has a higher hockey I.Q than Suzuki. :huh:
 
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For me the biggest mystery is... why did Silayev drop so much in the rankings? He was bound to be the 2nd or 3rd pick OA at some point.
 
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