HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Jaynki]

Guhle is really young and playing great hockey. Hutson looks like he could be an elite blueliner. We already have two guys who look like they could be number ones.

I’m is basically a two inch taller Hutson. We’ve already got someone in that chair and he’s NHL ready. Why are we going to trade that away for the same thing?

At what point do you just trust in what you’ve got and build where you need to?

Again, your point are valid and i also agree with every single one of them.

But i think they are a distraction in the process of selecting the best player in the 2024 draft.

I believe Buium has the potential to be a top 10D in the league. You are free to disagree. There is no valid reason for me to disregard this type of upside.

Imagine we are in the exact same spot and we hold the 1st OV pick in 2018 draft. Should we disregard Dahlin because we have Hutson and Guhle?

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Again, your point are valid and i also agree with every single one of them.

But i think they are a distraction in the process of selecting the best player in the 2024 draft.

I believe Buium has the potential to be a top 10D in the league. You are free to disagree. There is no valid reason for me to disregard this type of upside.

Imagine we are in the exact same spot and we hold the 1st OV pick in 2018 draft. Should we disregard Dahlin because we have Hutson and Guhle?

If there’s a forward equivalent to Dahlin? Yes.

 

[le_sean]

Again, your point are valid and i also agree with every single one of them.

But i think they are a distraction in the process of selecting the best player in the 2024 draft.

I believe Buium has the potential to be a top 10D in the league. You are free to disagree. There is no valid reason for me to disregard this type of upside.

Imagine we are in the exact same spot and we hold the 1st OV pick in 2018 draft. Should we disregard Dahlin because we have Hutson and Guhle?

Dahlin was in another stratosphere as a prospect. He was seen as generational. Buium isn’t even the top rated defenceman of this draft. In fact he’s usually the 3rd or 4th best on a lot of lists.

 

[The Last Red]

So if Demidov and Lindstrom are gone by 5, do we take a flyer on Sennecke, or go Buium? "Sounds like" Tij is out of the mix, if you believe the "Insiders."

 

[jaffy27]

I agree that we have major need up front and 5th OV is an obvious way to patch it.

But in my humble opinion, no team in the league is deep enough on defense to ignore Silayev or Buium.

We are overstoked in #2-3-4D. We have none, maybe Hutson, projected 1D. Its as much a need as a top forward.

Again, im not against drafting a forward, but the main focus should be on getting an elite talent, not going into a specific position. My view of the situation can be summarised by this simple thinking and the way i view Buium/Silayev is just the practical way of it.

That’s your opinion, that’s your analysis on the players, you “believing” that Buium or Silayev are the best picks at 5 doesn’t make it right. One could say no team is deep enough in the top 6 to overlook Iginla or Demidov or Lindstrom….?

Ultimately, the Habs brass is making the pick based on the opinions of their scouts and there’s a very good chance your view on players potential do not align with theirs.

They will pick whoever they think is the best fit for the Canadiens

 

[Jaynki]

That’s your opinion, that’s your analysis on the players, you “believing” that Buium or Silayev are the best picks at 5 doesn’t make it right. One could say no team is deep enough in the top 6 to overlook Iginla or Demidov or Lindstrom….?

Ultimately, the Habs brass is making the pick based on the opinions of their scouts and there’s a very good chance your view on players potential do not align with theirs.

They will pick whoever they think is the best fit for the Canadiens

Of course

If there’s a forward equivalent to Dahlin? Yes.

I agree.

Now, after Demidov and Lindstrom, the forward are not equivalent to the top D.

Dahlin was in another stratosphere as a prospect. He was seen as generational. Buium isn’t even the top rated defenceman of this draft. In fact he’s usually the 3rd or 4th best on a lot of lists.

Depends who you ask.

 

[jaffy27]

So if Demidov and Lindstrom are gone by 5, do we take a flyer on Sennecke, or go Buium? "Sounds like" Tij is out of the mix, if you believe the "Insiders."

If it goes Celebrini, Demidov, Levshunov, Lindstrom……ummmm….between Dickinson (who can play the right side) and Sennecke and his magic hands.

Would be happy with Iginla too

 

[Saundies]

So if Demidov and Lindstrom are gone by 5, do we take a flyer on Sennecke, or go Buium? "Sounds like" Tij is out of the mix, if you believe the "Insiders."

If they're out of the mix, it's hard. Let's say I'm 'happier' going with a Buium or Dickinson than I am if they are there and we inexplicably pass on them for some reason to do it.

Basically, if either one of them is there and we don't take them, I really don't understand. If they're not, I understand further. I'm a 'please get a forward/we need forwards/why won't you just pick a foward' type of poster for this draft but I would at least hear them out if they felt Buium/Dickinson was truly the best players available based on their games over an Iginla/Sennecke.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Kinda weird Lindstrom made it all the way up off 25 games after this ranking.

it's Catton Saturday

https://x.com/i/web/status/1715063868274421884

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Now, after Demidov and Lindstrom, the forward are not equivalent to the top D.

Again, there’s no consensus on that. From what I’ve seen iginla’s ranked higher than Buium is. So’s Senecke.

There’s zero consensus out there at all. I’m is not a clear BPA. And again, most have Dickinson ranked higher than Buium.

 

[The Last Red]

If it goes Celebrini, Demidov, Levshunov, Lindstrom……ummmm….between Dickinson (who can play the right side) and Sennecke and his magic hands.

Would be happy with Iginla too

I like Buium way more than Dicksinson.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

If it goes Celebrini, Demidov, Levshunov, Lindstrom……ummmm….between Dickinson (who can play the right side) and Sennecke and his magic hands.

Would be happy with Iginla too

Guhle can play right side. Do we want to keep him there? No. I don’t know why we’d take Dickinson to play him on the right side too.

 

[Schooner Guy]

It is when you have an overload at a position. How many times are you going to draft for the same spot? At this point it would be crazy to do it. Which is why it’s not going to happen.

I beg to differ. What's crazy would be passing up on a player your scouts have ranked far ahead of any other available player because of your organizational depth chart at different positions. That's losing sight of the big picture.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I beg to differ. What's crazy would be passing up on a player your scouts have ranked far ahead of any other available player because of your organizational depth chart at different positions. That's losing sight of the big picture.

Who says he’s far ranked ahead of anyone?

 

[Balthazar]

So Michkov is playing for the Flyers next season. This should give even more confidence to the top 4 teams to draft Demidov.

 

[Jaynki]

Again, there’s no consensus on that. From what I’ve seen iginla’s ranked higher than Buium is. So’s Senecke.

There’s zero consensus out there at all. I’m is not a clear BPA. And again, most have Dickinson ranked higher than Buium.

Indeed.

Draft cant come soon enough

Interesting week ahead

 

[Riggins]

This poster shits on every single amateur scout. It’s a bit of a vendetta it seems, maybe because it comes from a place of jealousy.

I wouldn't put much stock into Wheeler. Last year he had Fantilli to Anaheim, Smith to Columbus and Carlsson to SJ.

Pronman clearly has developed some connections over the years. His final mock will be interesting as he's nailed it the last couple years.

In 2022, in the top 6 all he messed up was Nemec and Jiricek in the wrong spots. It was bold at the time having Wright at #4. In 2023 he nailed the top 5.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Kinda weird Lindstrom made it all the way up off 25 games after this ranking.

it's Catton Saturday

Catton produced at Crosby, Bedard level and he lost 5 ranks, really makes you think

Catton Saturday

https://x.com/i/web/status/1802463462196383949

 

[salbutera]

Again, your point are valid and i also agree with every single one of them.

But i think they are a distraction in the process of selecting the best player in the 2024 draft.

I believe Buium has the potential to be a top 10D in the league. You are free to disagree. There is no valid reason for me to disregard this type of upside.

Imagine we are in the exact same spot and we hold the 1st OV pick in 2018 draft. Should we disregard Dahlin because we have Hutson and Guhle?

In 2018 Dahlin was clear cut 1OA (like Cenebrini) and Svechnikov was unanimous 2OA - both were a tier above test of draft cuvée at the time of the draft. Such is not the case after Celebrini as 1OA this draft

 

[Jaynki]

In 2018 Dahlin was clear cut 1OA (like Cenebrini) and Svechnikov was unanimous 2OA - both were a tier above test of draft cuvée at the time of the draft. Such is not the case after Celebrini as 1OA this draft

Yes i agree.

But it was to highlights the facts that its all about aiming for upside.

The need, what we have, etc is a distraction.

 

[Ozmodiar]

Again, your point are valid and i also agree with every single one of them.

But i think they are a distraction in the process of selecting the best player in the 2024 draft.

I believe Buium has the potential to be a top 10D in the league. You are free to disagree. There is no valid reason for me to disregard this type of upside.

Imagine we are in the exact same spot and we hold the 1st OV pick in 2018 draft. Should we disregard Dahlin because we have Hutson and Guhle?

If Buium has top 10 potential, then so do 4 or 5 others in this draft if you believe countless rankings and mock drafts.

not sure why Dahlin is being used to draw some sort of equivalency. Undisputed #1 overall pick compared to (maybe) the 3rd D picked.

 

[Mrb1p]

I think we should stop trying to galaxy brain it and just pick Catton or Iginla but thats just me.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I'm gonna take a hiatus, the Michkov news is already gonna make this place toxic as f***. When they take Buium over Demidov, I can't be here for it

Don't worry. We're taking Eiserman.

And we're not taking Buium. I just can't see it.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

I think we should stop trying to galaxy brain it and just pick Catton or Iginla but thats just me.

Iginla is probably a better choice as Catton probably won't be able to dominate from the middle of the ice like he has up until now. They'll both probably have to become wingers and Iginla game won't be as hurt from doing so. Nothing against Catton but he's more of a perimeter player. Habs need to learn how to play on the inside more

 

[Jaynki]

If Buium has top 10 potential, then so do 4 or 5 others in this draft if you believe countless rankings and mock drafts.

not sure why Dahlin is being used to draw some sort of equivalency. Undisputed #1 overall pick compared to (maybe) the 3rd D picked.

I dont draw any parralel between Dahlin and Buium

I just used this as an example to aim for highest upside instead of needs, fits or whatever distraction.