HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

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Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%

  • Total voters
    422
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Florida is missing a Buium 😉
I’d say it’s a bigger problem than that. But they have gone to the Finals two years in a row without anyone spectacular on D. It’s not like the Oilers have a lot of great defenders, they have one pairing.

Florida is just getting outworked and out-skated. Anyone who signs Reinhart to a massive contract is going to regret it. He is the worst 57 goal scorer I’ve seen. Slow as molasses and zero physicality.
 
1st rounders drafted out of the Russian jr league;







 
I like Bouchard but he isn’t a “game breaking D”, who else do Edm have on the back end?

As for Fla PP, not enough credit if being given to Oilers dominant playoff PK - it’s been legendary throughout the playoffs

Having one of the best players to ever play the game up front can help mitigate that issue lol and then your 2nd best player being Draisaitl doesn’t hurt. But Oilers as a team started turning around with solid D like Ekholm and Bouchard progressing, not a coincidence, McDavid was arguably better through first few rounds last year
 
I really want a forward but if it's gonna be a dman, I'm taking Sam Dickinson.

Guhle-Mailloux
Dickinson-Reinbacher
Hutson-Zhekaj

Taking a dman is actually not that bad..
One of the things that needs to be considered is cap management.

Guhle, Reinbacher and Dickinson (or whoever we draft) are all going to get paid based on draft pedigree (top 15 picks).
Hutson will also get paid due to PP1 production.

Are we going to spend 35+ million a year on defense?
I don't think that's a winning formula. Ideally you want at least one top 4 guy making below average money (someone to just play stay-at-home D with Hutson).

Below should be more than fine:

Guhle - Reinbacher (heavy matchup focus)
Hutson - Struble/Xhekaj/Kovacevic/Cheap Veteran
Xhekaj/Struble - Mailloux/Kovacevic/Barron
 
- Said Buium be a star.
- Lindstrom is Kreider type
- If Demidov and Lindstrom gone He would take Catton at 5. He is most skilled. But thinks Habs take Sennecke because of size. Called him highlight goal machine. Inconsistent but had great playoff.
- teams don't like taking Russians high in draft.
- Hawks take Levs. Ducks take Silayev at 3. mentioned if dealt Zegras Ducks may take forward.
- Parekh could slide due to depth in defense this draft


Kind of lame actually.
I’ve read that Sennecke’s comparable is Spezza. I’m not sure that’s what I want. But maybe.
 
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Do you think Demidov goes at #2?
If he's so far above the rest he should.
Believe it or not I don't think everyone thinks Demidov is.

I agree that not every team has Demidov as its second choice after Celebrini. But I suspect the Habs do.
 
One of the things that needs to be considered is cap management.

Guhle, Reinbacher and Dickinson (or whoever we draft) are all going to get paid based on draft pedigree (top 15 picks).
Hutson will also get paid due to PP1 production.

Are we going to spend 35+ million a year on defense?
I don't think that's a winning formula. Ideally you want at least one top 4 guy making below average money (someone to just play stay-at-home D with Hutson).

Below should be more than fine:

Guhle - Reinbacher (heavy matchup focus)
Hutson - Struble/Xhekaj/Kovacevic/Cheap Veteran
Xhekaj/Struble - Mailloux/Kovacevic/Barron
Oh, for sure. It'll be a good problem to have regardless. Just hope we don't give someone a Nurse-like contract down the line.

I still want the Habs to draft one of Demidov/Lindstrom/Iginla. That's still the priority. If not, I wouldn't be mad drafting Dickinson.
 
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No. I acknowledged up front that I'm in the minority on Levshunov and have been all season and that there are some hockey people out there who have the same questions I do on some important areas for a defenseman especially as they move up to the next level. Nobody is questioning his offense or tools and far more scouts are higher than me on Levshunov. That's why he's in the top 5 on most lists. I still think he's a strong prospect who would obviously be great to have in the system but I don't have him top 5. We'll know in 3-5 years. No need to always get so sensitive when someone points out an imperfection or questions something about a player you like.

If Reinbacher was in this draft, he'd likely be anywhere between 1-7 in the D rankings depending on the list. One thing Reinbacher has going for him is that he has tested well against men in strong pro leagues. The transition from amateur to the NHL for young D isn't easy and usually takes time.
Okay — I’ll try this again: what do “some hockey people” have to say about his defensive game?

You referred to them and didn’t really demonstrate what they said. I’ve been genuinely curious about this but you keep changing your tone. As far as I can see, the hockey consensus is that Levshunov is a very very good prospect and likely the top dman prospect of this year and last.

I have zero attachment to Lev or Celebrini because I figure they’d be gone before the Habs pick. Not everything has a psychological angle to it, it could be that you’re just not communicating your thoughts in a way I can understand.
 
Haven’t really watched any of the dmen much. Is Buium similar to Fox? From some of the descriptions here that’s kind of how he sounds. Not many standout tools outside of insane IQ but above average to good in every single category. Idk lol that might not even be a good description of Fox.
Buium is a better, more fluid skater. In any event, I don’t think he will be available at 5 OA.
 
@Goldenhands Are you still saying we go Helenius?
Yeah of course, I wouldnt have put money on him if I didnt believe in his chances to be drafted 5th OV by the Habs. If both Demidov and Lindstrom are off the board, Helenius is the obvious pick to me, a 5'11 190 lbs top 6 center who can play wing as well, that versatility is highly valuable to a team like the Habs in the eventuality Dach keeps struggling with injuries. Outside of his versatility and top 6 talent, that kid's compete level (motor) and hockey IQ are off the chart, he plays a solid 200 ft. game, great positional, protects his puck, great on the cycle, pretty slippery and tough to handle along the wall, great in tight areas, great skater, very high paced player, great in transition, great patience with the puck, never panic under pressure, very high passing rate success... I dont understand how you cant love the player, he is a beauty both on and off the puck, great strength that allows him to initiates physical contacts and win ton of 1 on 1 battles at 17 yrs old against growth men. The kid plays totally fearless and never back down when you try to intimidate him, he is like a little vikings out there.

Personally I dont really care about the noise, Sennecke has some great tools, but sooo raw, he is a 3-4 yrs project and we dont really know how it will turn out to be, I dont think the Habs will go there at 5. I could see them being interested in Iginla though and I would be fine with that pick, but I would go with Helenius personally, I think he fills way too many boxes to not be considered very highly.

At this point, Im just counting the days till the draft, its going to be a crazy night with so much uncertainty after Celebrini. I will watch that draft cool, relaxed and will just enjoy it, I will range behind the guy they decide to pick, we have to trust these guys, they know what they are doing.
 
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Yeah of course, I wouldnt have put money on him if I didnt believe in his chances to be drafted 5th OV by the Habs. If both Demidov and Lindstrom are off the board, Helenius is the obvious pick to me, a 5'11 190 lbs top 6 center who can play wing as well, that versatility is highly valuable to a team like the Habs in the eventuality Dach keeps struggling with injuries. Outside of his versatility and top 6 talent, that kid's compete level (motor) and hockey IQ are off the chart, he plays a solid 200 ft. game, great positional, protects his puck, great on the cycle, pretty slippery and tough to handle along the wall, great in tight areas, great skater, very high paced player, great in transition, great patience with the puck, never panic under pressure, very high passing rate success... I dont understand how you cant love the player, he is a beauty both on and off the puck, great strength that allows him to initiates physical contacts and win ton of 1 on 1 battles at 17 yrs old against growth men. The kid plays totally fearless and never back down when you try to intimidate him, he is like a little vikings out there.

Personally I dont really care about the noise, Sennecke has some great tools, but sooo raw, he is a 3-4 yrs project and we dont really know how it will turn out to be, I dont think the Habs will go there at 5. I could see them being interested in Iginla though and I would be fine with that pick, but I would go with Helenius personally, I think he fills way too many boxes to not be considered very highly.

At this point, Im just counting the days till the draft, its going to be a crazy night with so much uncertainty after Celebrini. I will watch that draft cool, relaxed and will just enjoy it, I will range behind the guy they decide to pick, we have to trust these guys, they know what they are doing.

Agreed that both Iginla and Helenius are great prospects without any glaring flaws. I take both of them over Lindstrom in a heartbeat as they have 1st line upside and really high floors with tons of character, compete and leadership qualities.

Helenius is so criminally underrated on these boards.
 
Went to take a peek at the Hawks board to see what’s the word on their organization.

First thing I read on their draft thread : Apparently their GM (Kyle Davidson) and the Russian scouts want Demidov while the other scouts want Levshunov.

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I don’t know how to post a twitter link, it’s post #1271 and #1274 on their draft thread.
They’re currently debating the validity of the source.
 
Agreed that both Iginla and Helenius are great prospects without any glaring flaws. I take both of them over Lindstrom in a heartbeat as they have 1st line upside and really high floors with tons of character, compete and leadership qualities.

Helenius is so criminally underrated on these boards.
An healthy Lindstrom would be hard for me to pass on though.
 
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Went to take a peek at the Hawks board to see what’s the word on their organization.

First thing I read on their draft thread : Apparently their GM (Kyle Davidson) and the Russian scouts want Demidov while the other scouts want Levshunov.

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I don’t know how to post a twitter link, it’s post #1271 and #1274 on their draft thread.
They’re currently debating the validity of the source.

This is obviously fictional nonsense as this information simply is not available to the public despite what some of the resident basement reporters will feverishly obsess over and present as legitimate news.....

Nobody knows anything until the picks are made, that is a fact so tune out the noise and enjoy your life.
 
Be prepared for them to take Buium over Demidov. Basu starting to socialize that to the fan base.

I'll crucify them myself. I let them off the hook on the Reinbacher pick because I liked the player and he filled a clear and dire need.

This one is indefensible.

Father Arpon is feeding us!
 
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