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Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%

  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%

  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%

  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%

  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%

  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%
  • Total voters
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WeThreeKings said:
Be prepared for them to take Buium over Demidov. Basu starting to socialize that to the fan base.

I'll crucify them myself. I let them off the hook on the Reinbacher pick because I liked the player and he filled a clear and dire need.

This one is indefensible.
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Not really, these two are starting to become unlistenable.. keeps shaking every tree to get reactions. Nobody knows jackshit, but there is clearly a psyop on demidov happening and they are part of it.
 
Chomsky22 said:
Not really, these two are starting to become unlistenable.. keeps shaking every tree to get reactions. Nobody knows jackshit, but there is clearly a psyop on demidov happening and they are part of it.
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It keeps coming up elsewhere, too. Feeling a lot like the lead up to last draft.
 
Skip Bayless said:
Dany Dubé and Martin McGuire spent a lot of time on Iginla talking about the possible habs picks. Normally when they do this, that's the guy the org. is going to pick.

They did the same thing for Reinbacher last year.
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I think it’s interesting we haven’t heard much noise around Iginla / Catton as options at 5, makes me wonder if one of them are a bit higher on their list than they want other teams to know
 
Gally11 said:
I think it’s interesting we haven’t heard much noise around Iginla / Catton as options at 5, makes me wonder if one of them are a bit higher on their list than they want other teams to know
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No, it's more than they aren't in the conversation for teams in the top 5.
 
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Gally11 said:
I think it’s interesting we haven’t heard much noise around Iginla / Catton as options at 5, makes me wonder if one of them are a bit higher on their list than they want other teams to know
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Anything's possible at this point. I think Iginla could end up being the Suzuki of this draft. And while I love Catton's skill, he could be a Clayton Keller just as much as he could turn out to be a Max Domi. It's a higher risk at 5.
 
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Skip Bayless said:
Anything's possible at this point. I think Iginla could end up being the Suzuki of this draft. And while I love Catton's skill, he could be a Clayton Keller just as much as he could turn out to be a Max Domi. It's a higher risk at 5.
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He’s much much closer to Keller than Domi. Look up Domi’s pre draft reports…

waffledave said:
Why would Buium have mandatory military service?
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Because he’s Israeli and every Israeli has mandatory military service. The same concern we had to evaluate with the Russian prospects no?
 
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waffledave said:
He's not Israeli, he's American.
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Wikipedia says he’s Israeli American. I don’t know how dual citizenship works wrt the Israeli military, so it’s worth asking. Not sure what’s wrong with asking about it, it’s a genuine question!
 
Uou say you don't want Michkov for all these reasons, sure. Now those reasons aren't issues on Demidov. You say you likely take Leonard if Reinbacher was a left shot just last year. Hutson debuts in two critical games for Detroit and looks great. All of the defenseman are developing VERY nicely. At the end of all that, you take a left shot defenseman (which would have excluded Reinbacher from your choice last year) to pass on the high skill forward who is close to 6'1" who has none of the Michkov questions. It's just indefensible, the fan base won't accept this at all.

You are betting on an average sized Buium with average athletic tools to be one of the smartest players in the entire NHL. That's a terrible bet to make when you have a clear need, and a clear fit, staring you in the face.
 
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ReHabs said:
Is there a possibility Buium enlists in the Israeli military? Has he done his mandatory service? I’ve read they’re calling up more troops for a potential second front — how does that impact Buium?
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I mean who knows

One would hope not
 
Oh man that most recent Basu price in the athletic suggests it might be Buium before Demidov and Lindstrom and definitely Buium above anyone not named Demidov and Lindstrom. I think I will lose my mind if we go Buium before Demidov if both are there. To a lesser extend, I’d lose my mind if we go Buium ahead of Lindstrom if both still available.
 
skidcells said:
Oh man that most recent Basu price in the athletic suggests it might be Buium before Demidov and Lindstrom and definitely Buium above anyone not named Demidov and Lindstrom. I think I will lose my mind if we go Buium before Demidov if both are there. To a lesser extend, I’d lose my mind if we go Buium ahead of Lindstrom if both still available.
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I'd lose my mind if we went Buium AT ALL - over Demidov is just not a defensible position for this franchise.

They better call Zeev, his brother, his parents and tell them to delete all their social media because this is gonna be a bloodbath of extreme portions. Not Zeev's fault but a lot of high ranking members of this team are setting themselves to be fired and memorialized as eternal villains in Habs history.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
I'd lose my mind if we went Buium AT ALL - over Demidov is just not a defensible position for this franchise.

They better call Zeev, his brother, his parents and tell them to delete all their social media because this is gonna be a bloodbath of extreme portions. Not Zeev's fault but a lot of high ranking members of this team are setting themselves to be fired and memorialized as eternal villains in Habs history.
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His family is from Israel, I'd probably tell him to stay off social media anyway, TBH :help: I can already imagine how ugly stuff could/would get.
 
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Goldenhands said:
Yeah of course, I wouldnt have put money on him if I didnt believe in his chances to be drafted 5th OV by the Habs. If both Demidov and Lindstrom are off the board, Helenius is the obvious pick to me, a 5'11 190 lbs top 6 center who can play wing as well, that versatility is highly valuable to a team like the Habs in the eventuality Dach keeps struggling with injuries. Outside of his versatility and top 6 talent, that kid's compete level (motor) and hockey IQ are off the chart, he plays a solid 200 ft. game, great positional, protects his puck, great on the cycle, pretty slippery and tough to handle along the wall, great in tight areas, great skater, very high paced player, great in transition, great patience with the puck, never panic under pressure, very high passing rate success... I dont understand how you cant love the player, he is a beauty both on and off the puck, great strength that allows him to initiates physical contacts and win ton of 1 on 1 battles at 17 yrs old against growth men. The kid plays totally fearless and never back down when you try to intimidate him, he is like a little vikings out there.

Personally I dont really care about the noise, Sennecke has some great tools, but sooo raw, he is a 3-4 yrs project and we dont really know how it will turn out to be, I dont think the Habs will go there at 5. I could see them being interested in Iginla though and I would be fine with that pick, but I would go with Helenius personally, I think he fills way too many boxes to not be considered very highly.

At this point, Im just counting the days till the draft, its going to be a crazy night with so much uncertainty after Celebrini. I will watch that draft cool, relaxed and will just enjoy it, I will range behind the guy they decide to pick, we have to trust these guys, they know what they are doing.
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Really appreciate your hindsight.

Any D you prefer to Helenius if Lindstrom/Demidov are gone ?
 
Michelangelo said:
Buium is projected to be a top pairing defenseman

It would be an understandable pick, especially if they see other defensemen currently in the pipeline as top 4 potential
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It’s not his upside that’s in question but his downside. His physical stature isn’t particularly sexy for a dman and if he comes short of being a top pairing dman he’s liable to really fall off. Small dmen are at a big disadvantage.

DramaticGloveSave said:
Oh man taking Buium over Demidov after Reinbacher before Michkov last year would be comical
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Bobrov knows best :sarcasm:
 
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Michelangelo said:
Buium is projected to be a top pairing defenseman

It would be an understandable pick, especially if they see other defensemen currently in the pipeline as top 4 potential
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Doesn't defend better than Guhle, doesn't create offense better than Hutson. Average sized, average athletic tools. He's not gonna be on PK1 or PP1, and then he has to be a 95% percentile hockey IQ guy to be a 1D.

I can't think of a potential pick that makes less than sense than Buium.

DramaticGloveSave said:
Oh man taking Buium over Demidov after Reinbacher before Michkov last year would be comical
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Not even comical, just indefensible and probably the biggest galaxy braining ever done by a franchise. I got the Reinbacher, eat your vegetables take the high floor, smooth skating RD with size.. I don't get taking the average Buium who is a left shot.

Leaving the critical 3 drafts for the franchise with Slafkovsky, Reinbacher and Buium is sentencing this team to another rebuild.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
I'd lose my mind if we went Buium AT ALL - over Demidov is just not a defensible position for this franchise.

They better call Zeev, his brother, his parents and tell them to delete all their social media because this is gonna be a bloodbath of extreme portions. Not Zeev's fault but a lot of high ranking members of this team are setting themselves to be fired and memorialized as eternal villains in Habs history.
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And you don’t think this is the case with Sennecke? The average Habs fan would welcome a Dman who had a historic season in the NCAA at 5 much more warmly than they would a player that only managed pedestrian numbers in the OHL cuz growth spurts and magic beans.

Ahead of Demidov and Lindstrom, is the only way it could be a media shitstorm.
 
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skidcells said:
Oh man that most recent Basu price in the athletic suggests it might be Buium before Demidov and Lindstrom and definitely Buium above anyone not named Demidov and Lindstrom. I think I will lose my mind if we go Buium before Demidov if both are there. To a lesser extend, I’d lose my mind if we go Buium ahead of Lindstrom if both still available.
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It is kinda written black on white.

I will ask you a question :

Dress a top 10 defenseman in the NHL. Now, when selecting a player in the draft who should enter this elite category, what should its draft year looks like?

Buium checks every single boxes.

I think Demidov and Lindstrom have gamebreaking talent so i want them at 5 but no teams in the NHL is deep enough at defense to spit on Buium potential. Especially not us with our plethora of potential #2-3D but no clear true 1D.

Dont let our current needs fool the analysis, in the end, Buium may have greater upside than any player in this draft beside Celebrini.
 
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