HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

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Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%

  • Total voters
    422
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The Andreas Dackell era didn't have Price, Subban, Max, Markov and a 3rd overall to kick start a rebuild. Our incompetent GM did.

Day one: Hires Michel Therrien.

Thank God the new regime seems to know what it's doing. So far so good. At a minimum we've picked a direction.
There were darker days before Berg.

MT... well obviously Price was a factor, but he won a lot of games.

He sold high on Subban, acquired a cornerstone player in #14, and made the right pick at #3..at the time.

He shafted Markov.

They call him BargainBin for a reason... never wanted to pay full for Price.

He had his faults forsure, but I'll take him over Pierre Gauthier everyday of the week.
 
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Demidov, Lindstrom, Catton, Sennecke, Iginla…

Just give me a forward. Do think Lindstrom is by far the biggest risk of that group though.

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No.

I don't think you realize how good Barkov is.

This guy has to be the most underrated player in the NHL since Pavel Datsyuk.

There's a reason why Huberdeau struggles so much in Calgary.
Funny because if you replace Barkocs with Suzuki I'd completely agree. Nick is an amazing player that is mostly dragged down by terrible team around him.
 
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Man it's going to be hard to pass on Dickinson if he makes it to us. Wouldn't be surprised if he became a Dobson-like player in the NHL. Also he's got that Slaf gigachad vibe to him.
 
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There were darker days before Berg.

MT... well obviously Price was a factor, but he won a lot of games.

He sold high on Subban, acquired a cornerstone player in #14, and made the right pick at #3..at the time.

He shafted Markov.

They call him BargainBin for a reason... never wanted to pay full for Price.

He had his faults forsure, but I'll take him over Pierre Gauthier everyday of the week.
The man should have been arrested after the 2015 deadline. Has the league’s MVP in net, 1st in goals against in the entire league, 18th in goals for. Who does he acquire up front? Devante Smith-Pelly, Brian Flynn and Torrey Mitchell.
 
The man should have been arrested after the 2015 deadline. Has the league’s MVP in net, 1st in goals against in the entire league, 18th in goals for. Who does he acquire up front? Devante Smith-Pelly, Brian Flynn and Torrey Mitchell.
Yes they should have done anything they could to bring ROR
 
Sennecke is much riskier than all these guys and he has by far the lowest upside. I’ve never seen so much hype for such a run of the mill, mid to late first round quality prospect.
His ceiling is much higher than Catton and Iginla.
 
Sennecke is much riskier than all these guys and he has by far the lowest upside. I’ve never seen so much hype for such a run of the mill, mid to late first round quality prospect.

So sennecke is your most risky prospect of that bunch, who is your least risky?
 
Based on what?

He can’t have ‘’by far the lowest upside’’ when he’s, more complete offensively than Iginla, probably top 2 hands in the draft, better playmaker/puckhandler, better size/reach.

You said yourself that Iginla plays a ‘’meat and potatoes’’ type of game. You can’t say that and turn around and try to say Sennecke has a lower ceiling/upside.

In terms skills Catton has the abilities but if both gets to their ceiling, Sennecke has other advantage to his game you’d take over Catton, like the size advantage, plays on the boards, ect.
 
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So sennecke is your most risky prospect of that bunch, who is your least risky?
Iginla. He plays a meat and potatoes type of game, does all the little things well, is well rounded, plays the most pro-style game of the group while being the youngest. He also has gotten advice and guidance from one of the all time greats every day of his life since he put on skates.
 
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I'm happy to select Dickinson if we take Matheson and blast him into outer space trade him for a top 6
If they take Dickinson imagine Matheson be traded for another pick in top 15. Take Catton, Sennecke or Eiserman. Whomever is still available.

Be good first round draft Dickinson, Sennecke and Stiga.

Use the caproom saved to sign a UFA. DeBrusk?
 
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He can’t have ‘’by far the lowest upside’’ when he’s, more complete offensively than Iginla, probably top 2 hands in the draft, better playmaker/puckhandler, better size/reach. Iginla doesn’t have the same type of ceiling.

In terms skills Catton has the abilities but if both gets to their ceiling, Sennecke has other advantage to his game you’d take over Catton, like the size advantage, plays on the boards, ect.
None of this except for size is based on anything tangible. It’s just your opinion, and again, I have to question how you’ve come to that because it certainly isn’t based on results on the ice.

His 4 more assists, less goals, less points per game makes him “more complete offensively than Iginla”? How so? I’d really like an explanation that isn’t just you saying so.

And before you go off, yes stats are a huge part of the equation. Always have been, always will be.

He’s “bigger” than Iginla, but he’s weaker, slower, less explosive, less physical, and plays a perimeter game, and he’s significantly older. He’s also worse defensively, among a number of other things.

As for Catton, there is not a single thing that Sennecke does better, or even as good. He’s worse in every way, except size.
 
Iginla. He plays a meat and potatoes type of game, does all the little things well, is well rounded, plays the most pro-style game of the group while being the youngest. He also has gotten advice and guidance from one of the all time greats every day of his life since he put on skates.

I agree about Iginla. How about the ones in between?
 
I have some doubts on Iginla not really the player himself, one of the youngest of the draft and a lot of qualities, but the way he was prepare before he hit the draft. Versus others, he already have pro player habits in training and nutrition.

Like every father does, Jarome have give every tips he can to his son to maximize his success and the kid have do is work. Others have a untapped potential on that part because they have not a maximize training schedule and nutrition like TJ should have since years!

Not everyone will bought that stuff even with the knowledge but some will do and this can change a lot of things for some prospects who will gain from that! On the other side, you already know TJ have that kind of habit, he will keep it and became better on every level he can over the time; the commitment is there and it's something you can buy!

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They will not look at that option but Catton can be a very nice pick. Without becoming an generationnal player he can became something special. One of the threat every great players who has skate on a NHL ice have is the commitment to improve their game, they are never be good enough, practice more than others, learn from others, first and last on the ice; Catton have that, he is a student of the game; he eat, drink, sleep hockey! He will not be the first if he can make it in the big show but if he do, he can be a very good one!
 
Omg now I have read it all. Now having pro preparation is bad. Now being trained by an all time great is a red flag.

It reminds me of people not wanting to draft big, strong, athletic kids because they either won't have that advantage in the NHL or the scrawny wimp has perceived untapped potential. Only the scrawny wimp will be scrawny and wimpier in the NHL, and the NHL is full of strong and athletic people.

It's an advantage. Let's not be the smartest guys in the room trying to turn every advantage into a reason why someone's going to bust.
 
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