HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[A Loyal Demidog]

Everything about Dickinson screams #1 defenseman in the NHL: Skill, size, attitude, pedigree...

He has a very high floor and is very low risk. I'm not surprised to hear that the Hawks may take him at #2.

I really hope if no one takes him before us, Kent Hughes grabs him. He's a surefire top D. Everyone else has some question marks.

 

[ReHabs]

I really hope if no one takes him before us, Kent Hughes grabs him. He's a surefire top D. Everyone else has some question marks.

As annoying as it is that Hughes went with the D-man last year, Dickinson really does seem like a "can't pass on him" prospect.

Is a d-corps that pushes Guhle to 4D overkill? Possibly. Do I want to see it anyway? Yes.

 

[Habssince89]

Everything about Dickinson screams #1 defenseman in the NHL: Skill, size, attitude, pedigree...

He has a very high floor and is very low risk. I'm not surprised to hear that the Hawks may take him at #2.

Dickinson will be the traditional pick for a team like CHI, who has a potentially generational C. I do understand the idea of getting a winger for Bedard, but long term the Hawks will want a 1D and everything they say about Dickinson is true he's the guy.

I'm getting a very good feeling about this draft, specifically that at least 2 of CHI/ANA/CLB will take D men, leaving Hughes with Demidov/Lindstrom. If all three take D, Demidov could be franchise changing. Imagine even 75% of Kucherov's ability, and what it would do to the production of our best young players? This will be a good draft, and I think we'll be happy with whoever we get. This year is lacking the anxiety minus Sennecke, who is intruiging but IMO not enough to displace Demidov/Lindstrom

 

[Skip Bayless]

Le man mountain 2.0

lol my man looking straight up like early 90s Patrick Swayze.

 

[HuGort]

Hughes likely would have chosen Michkov last year if he knew he was going to break his Russian contract

 

[ReHabs]

Hughes likely would have chosen Michkov last year if he knew he was going to break his Russian contract

I think Bobrov or Hughes himself would’ve known. I think they simply weren’t interested in Michkov at 5 knowing that one of the top4 (who were just as good and safer, as prospects) and their boy Reinbacher were available. Once they settled on that it seemed like smooth sailing.

 

[Picaroon]

I'm surprised there isn't much talk about moving up to Anaheim's pick since they seem to want a defenseman. If CHI takes a D-man and CLB is going forward, would ANA not be interested in getting extra assets while still being able to take their guy at 5? Then the Habs can have their pick of the forwards (Demidov).

 

[CHarlie]

I dont agree with moving up when your picking 5th in a deep draft. I mean you better be 100% that the player you want is going to be a superstar and if so Im not sure the 4 other teams above you are that stupid to pass on such a player defence or offense.

 

[salbutera]

Hughes likely would have chosen Michkov last year if he knew he was going to break his Russian contract

IMO HuGo did not expect the team to be bottom-5 this past season, and they likely wouldn’t have been if Dach was not lost in game 2 - they went w the hardest & potentially most important position to fill during roster construction… top pairing Dman (RDman no less)

IMO it was all about the calculation of which prospect factoring in their projected NHL role would have greatest impact while taking into consideration expected TOI, game situational play, difficulty of position etc

Michkov’s alleged lack of all around game potentially limiting game situational TOI + being a W vs C/D etc played against his ranking w the org

 

[Habs Halifax]

The thing with KK is that the entire hype was created by a 7 game sample size at the U18. He was bad in the Liiga playoffs, he didn’t end his season very well.

Sennecke’s hype is based on his final ~40 games. He just continuously got stronger as the season went on.

I don’t think they are comparable. If we are talking the clumsy looking physicality, notice that Sennecke doesn’t actually fall. KK was called Bambi for a reason.

I agree with this.

KK should have been drafted 10-15 in a weaker draft than this one. Sennecke should be drafted 8-13 range in this draft which is stronger. Not the same type of players at all but I will say Sennecke should not be taken in the top 7.

I dont agree with moving up when your picking 5th in a deep draft. I mean you better be 100% that the player you want is going to be a superstar and if so Im not sure the 4 other teams above you are that stupid to pass on such a player defence or offense.

Same here. Stupid to trade the pick and think you can take what is left or the guy you are after will still be there. Assemble the draft board and take BPA according to our draft board when the 5th pick comes. There will be some gems to take.

Then focus at trying to get another pick from 8-13 range.

 

[Habs Icing]

The Habs should draft, develop and then trade any successful players for picks and draft new players to repeat the cycle with

That's the spirit!

 

[Habs Icing]

"It is impossible to achieve the aim without suffering..." In order to eliminate suffering, one must relinquish desire. Hockey: 12 players skating... no winners nor losers, just men in equipment gliding upon the ice, endlessly. Eternal. Ommmm....

Grasshopper, Alan Watts would be proud of you if pride wasn't a trap designed to inflict more suffering.

 

[RationalExpectations]

I'd argue the detractors for Lindstrom and Sennecke being a venn diagram overlap of Slaf deniers, feels like we might be on the right track for the right selection.

Or over McCarron lovers in which case that s the opposite ?

 

[Habs Icing]

The thing with KK is that the entire hype was created by a 7 game sample size at the U18. He was bad in the Liiga playoffs, he didn’t end his season very well.

Sennecke’s hype is based on his final ~40 games. He just continuously got stronger as the season went on.

I don’t think they are comparable. If we are talking the clumsy looking physicality, notice that Sennecke doesn’t actually fall. KK was called Bambi for a reason.

Besides Sennecke can skate. Only of late has KK managed to look like he can go once around the rink without taking a spill.

 

[RationalExpectations]

The thing with KK is that the entire hype was created by a 7 game sample size at the U18. He was bad in the Liiga playoffs, he didn’t end his season very well.

Sennecke’s hype is based on his final ~40 games. He just continuously got stronger as the season went on.

I don’t think they are comparable. If we are talking the clumsy looking physicality, notice that Sennecke doesn’t actually fall. KK was called Bambi for a reason.

I disagree. KK had good Liiga stats (better than Slaf actually), he was also very good in Liiga, created space for his linemates, was showing great promise as a playmaker. This rhetoric needs to stop. He was top 20 already at the beginning of his D year and top 10 at time of the lottery, actually quite similar to the Sennecke story.

It does not mean Sennecke will fail to be a top line winger, but we need to stop with the KK revisionism…

 

[CAUFIELD]

The thing with KK is that the entire hype was created by a 7 game sample size at the U18. He was bad in the Liiga playoffs, he didn’t end his season very well.

Sennecke’s hype is based on his final ~40 games. He just continuously got stronger as the season went on.

I don’t think they are comparable. If we are talking the clumsy looking physicality, notice that Sennecke doesn’t actually fall. KK was called Bambi for a reason.

Good point . But would you be really happy to have Sennecke instead of one of Dickinson , Lindstrom , Demidov or Lesh? I wouldn’t .

 

[WeThreeKings]

I'm surprised there isn't much talk about moving up to Anaheim's pick since they seem to want a defenseman. If CHI takes a D-man and CLB is going forward, would ANA not be interested in getting extra assets while still being able to take their guy at 5? Then the Habs can have their pick of the forwards (Demidov).

I think the reason for that would be that if Anaheim switches with Montreal, and Montreal takes the forward CBJ wants, then CBJ could take the defenseman that Anaheim is targeting.

CBJ isn't going forward for sure, I would argue the defenseman at the top of the class are a bigger need for them.

Or over McCarron lovers in which case that s the opposite ?

I can't think of a single person who wanted McCarron in the 1st round.

 

[Naslund]

I can't think of a single person who wanted McCarron in the 1st round.

McCagg

 

[Habs Icing]

Everything about Dickinson screams #1 defenseman in the NHL: Skill, size, attitude, pedigree...

He has a very high floor and is very low risk. I'm not surprised to hear that the Hawks may take him at #2.

Maybe those are screams of a man being tortured

I can't think of a single person who wanted McCarron in the 1st round.

I can think of a conference room full. Bergevin and his merry scouts.

 

[Saundies]

The Habs should draft, develop and then trade any successful players for picks and draft new players to repeat the cycle with

The Oakland Athletics strategy! I like it.

Everything about Dickinson screams #1 defenseman in the NHL: Skill, size, attitude, pedigree...

He has a very high floor and is very low risk. I'm not surprised to hear that the Hawks may take him at #2.

Honestly, Dickinson is making me consider my "forward or bust" mantra for this year's draft... I wouldn't be devastated let's put it that way.

 

[RationalExpectations]

I genuinely don t understand how Buium is not generating more interest : great puck mover, skater, good defensively, he is basically a taller version of Q Hughes and he has scored much more than him in their respective draft years… I d take him without any hesitation at 5 and I don t see why CHI or ANA or CBJ would not be interested either

 

[Seb]

I genuinely don t understand how Buium is not generating more interest : great puck mover, skater, good defensively, he is basically a taller version of Q Hughes and he has scored much more than him in their respective draft years… I d take him without any hesitation at 5 and I don t see why CHI or ANA or CBJ would not be interested either

Simon St-Laurent did a great video on Buium :

 

[le_sean]

Good point . But would you be really happy to have Sennecke instead of one of Dickinson , Lindstrom , Demidov or Lesh? I wouldn’t .

It would be a ballsy move but I trust Adam Nicholas and the development team.

 

[BergevinBurner]

I genuinely don t understand how Buium is not generating more interest

Hughes pretty much shot down the possibility of us taking Buium and the talk of him has mostly died down since.

 

[Kents polished head]

You have some fair points for sure. I do understand the stats concerns, but I wouldn't really say Iginlas stats are that much more impressive. The attitude thing is definitely scary, but it seems like the Habs under Hughes have really targeted hard working guys, so if it is true they likely won't take him. Sennecke really progressed as the year went on... but Iginla certainly stepped up when things mattered. I would be more excited by Iginla even though I do feel like the upside is not quite as high.... I think he will help teams win and those types are always my favs.

I guess we will see on draft day. I honestly wouldn't be shocked by much after pick #1.

Oh, I fully expect us to pick Sennecke at this point. The noises aren't there for no reason, and it absolutely IS an unpredictable draft past the 1st pick.

I just think there are way safer alternatives here for a team craving for any kind of a serious forward prospect, really.