HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%

  • Total voters
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SannywithoutCompy

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I actually soured on Vanacker in my final views.
Interesting, I guess scouting is sometimes just which games you happen to catch though.

If you were a pro scout watching Montreal after they get eliminated from the playoffs when they should be losing as much as possible, you'd come away thinking Armia was the 2nd coming of Mario
 

GlassesJacketShirt

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Boo this man.


Also, Mcagg has us picking Senneke again



Once he has his target, he stays on it.

I'm pretty convinced at this point it will be Senneke as well.

Edit: As an aside, doesn't a prospect need an invite for the combine? Shayne made it sound like it was a mistake for Demidov not to show up to it but I don't think they've invited any Russian system prospects since the war? Could be wrong.
 
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sheed36

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Boo this man.


Also, Mcagg has us picking Senneke again


Not sure how that is a surprise pick for the Habs from him. He's had a boner for this player and has been obsessed with him for a while it seems and has been talking about him to the Habs for a good bit. Sorry but I just can't get onboard with taking Sennecke @ 5.

Now what the hell did I do with my pitchfork after last years draft. I'm gonna need it again soon it seems. :)
 

Lafleurs Guy

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Not that I consider Pierre McGuire a media authority at this point, but he said he's consider Eiserman ahead of Demidov and Lindstrom.
I would. But that’s a very unpopular view.
Said you have to take grit and determination into consideration heavily. Ummm......
And he’s just flat out wrong here. If grit and determination are what you’re looking for, look elsewhere.

I made a point of watching Eiserman as much as I could. The criticisms are valid. You’re not drafting him for what he is but what he could be. He’s a home run swing.
 

Laurentide

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I read all comments and a lot of experts as well and some of the things that is clear.

It is easy to evaluate size and speed. A little girl could to it.

However..analyzing Iq and vision is a total different ball game. It is the mkst important quality in hockey and so much people does not look at it at all.


2 example:

Mike Ribeiro
Josh Anderson.

In 1998 maybe 80% of the fans said that he would never make it;

He was slow like a turtle.....skinny as hell at 6.0 170 pounds...no character..partying etc.

Ribeiro had an off chaŕt IQ and vision and magical hand...thats it....

Not a baď career for someone who continueď to party all the time.


Josh Anderson had everything....Size, speed strenght, shot..everything..but no IQ.

He made it but one the defensemen figured him out..he struggled..a lot.

Now again ...CATTON. think about that.:

..Iq off chart.., .amazing vision, magical hands, great shot......and the will to learn and improving his game every day in his training method etc...

As I wrote a .month ago....last Summer he wanted to work on his shot but instead to just shooting the puck many hours a day...he decided to spent a week at a goalie camp to ask questions to goalies and goalies coaches about which areas in the net they were struggling to stop the puck

It worked well....23 goals at 16 to 54 at 17 years old and his shot was so much better this season.

The kid is a student of the game..and listen to him and it is so easy to figure that he will always improving his qualities and his weaknesses..
Ribeiro's hockey IQ may have been high, but his regular IQ was hovering around room temperature. What a friggin' clown he was.
 

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Cubebrick

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Jacob Battaglia is the man you want.
Good shout. Him and Carson Wetsch are prospects within the same realm who I believe will end up having a breakout season in 24-25.

I actually soured on Vanacker in my final views.
Interesting, I guess scouting is sometimes just which games you happen to catch though.

If you were a pro scout watching Montreal after they get eliminated from the playoffs when they should be losing as much as possible, you'd come away thinking Armia was the 2nd coming of Mario
I've had great and not as good viewings on him myself. I think he has a lot of great tools but he needs to figure out what to do with them and find the toolbox. In some games, he dominates. In others, he looks lost.

I still have him as a late first because I think his game can still grow a lot but he does need to figure himself out and be more consistent.
 
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RationalExpectations

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I think both Dickinson and Buium are the top 2 D’s in this draft. They are not getting passed the 7th overall if I try to play Nostradamus a bit.

Lev gets picked maybe the 2nd overall because of the RD premium and Silayev will get picked somewhere in there because of his size. It’s a hell of a year to be in the hunt for a Dman.
I agree. For me passing over Buium for Lindstrom is like passing over Q Hughes to take an injured B Tkachuk because you may have Girard / McDonagh in your D pool.
 

le_sean

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How is everyone going to feel when we draft Helenius?

Goldie has predicted it. I am mentally prepared for it.
I mean he doesn’t really fit with what Bobrov and Gorton typically want, going back to their NY days. He’s also falling in all rankings, not exactly the end of a season you’d want from a prospect.
 
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ChesterNimitz

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I think I've been too low on Vanacker. I'm guessing I just got unlucky on my live viewings but he really seems to play a very translatable game, and has a fair amount of tools. Wouldn't hate him with 26 honestly.
I don't think he lasts until 26 OA. He's one of the better skaters in the OHL this past season and one of the few players that I would move up for if he falls into the 20 OA range.

Hughes pretty much shot down the possibility of us taking Buium and the talk of him has mostly died down since.
It wouldn't be the first time a general manager made a mistake.
 

jaffy27

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Anderson also has more Gs and As. We'd need more data, I wasn't even considering the sh% anomoly @SannywithoutCompy brought up but I don't want to get fixated against a prospect pre-draft any more. So won't be looking into it any further.
In the year that Anderon was drafted, he scored 12 goals in 64 games….Lindstrom has scored more then twice as many goals in exactly half the games :laugh:

(27 goals in 32games)

These are two different players amigo
 

Kudo Shinichi

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I agree. For me passing over Buium for Lindstrom is like passing over Q Hughes to take an injured B Tkachuk because you may have Girard / McDonagh in your D pool.

With what the habs already have in their team and system, there is a much bigger need to add a Tkachuk type player than to add a Hughes type player.
 

waitin425

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haha
nope
They aren't picking Helenius stop it guys lol
Man....I seriously won't be surprised if Goldie predicts it.

Here is my current top 10 predictions.....

San Jose - Mack
Chicago - Dickinson
Anaheim - Levshunov
Columbus - Silyayev
Habs - Demidov
Utah - Lindstrom
Ottawa - Buium
Kraken - Iginla
Flames - Sennecke
Devils - Catton
 
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